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EVERYONE[1. Call Meeting to Order]
TO THE OCTOBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.AND I GUESS I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
[1. Status update on recent Planning and Zoning Commission cases and planning policy items.]
YOU START BY GIVING US AN UPDATE ON CASES? ABSOLUTELY.ATU TENSION DIRECTOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WE DID HAVE ONE CASE FROM THE LAST PLANS ON THE COMMISSION MEETING, UH, MOVE FORWARD TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, DURING THE, UH, FIRST OCTOBER COUNCIL MEETING, THAT WAS THE CASE FOR 38 20 BELTLINE ROAD, UH, OR CALL THAT WAS A REQUEST TO REMOVE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT PROVIDE CROSS ACCESS BETWEEN THE FUTURE, UH, LOTS CREATED IN THE EVENT OF SUBDIVISION.
SO THE COUNCIL APPROVED THAT AS SUBMITTED BY A VOTE OF SEVEN TO ZERO, UH, ONE BRIEF UPDATE ON THE SAM'S CLUB PROJECTS.
UM, RECENTLY WE, OF COURSE WE DID HAVE THE COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE.
UH, WE HAD A FOLLOW-UP MEETING WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, TO DISCUSS OUTCOMES FROM THE OPEN HOUSE.
THE OUTCOME OF THAT MEETING WAS THAT, UH, THERE IS SOME ADDITIONAL NEED TO MEET WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO WORK THROUGH, UH, SOME OF THE, UM, PLACEMAKING CONSIDERATIONS, UH, RELATED TO THE PLAN AND TAKE A REAL DEEP DIVE INTO THOSE, UH, IDEAS AND ISSUES, AND ULTIMATELY FIND A PLACE THAT THE COMMITTEE CAN COME TO CONSENSUS ON AND ULTIMATELY MOVE FORWARD, UH, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO P AND Z AND CITY COUNCIL.
UH, WHAT, UH, WE PLANNED TO DO, UM, WHEN WE DO GET TO THAT POINT IS WE WOULD SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION, A JOINT WORK SESSION, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, UH, WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
AND WE FOUND THAT TO BE AN EFFECTIVE MEETING FORMAT IS HAD THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL MEET, BUT THEN ALSO INVITE MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO JOIN IN ON THAT.
MAYBE SHARE THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON THE PROCESS AND, AND TO, UH, GET THE COMMISSION AND COUNCIL UP TO DATE ON THAT PROJECT AND TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS COMING OUT OF THAT WORK SESSION.
SO MORE TO FOLLOW ON THAT WE MADE A LOT OF GOOD PROGRESS RECENTLY, BUT UH, MORE IS NEEDED.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, AS WELL, UM, WITH THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE PROJECTS, THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURES SECTION STAFF IS WRAPPING UP THEIR REVIEW OF THAT AND GETTING READY TO, UH, DELIVER, UM, OUR, UH, PROPOSED REVISIONS TO BACK TO THE CONSULTANT.
SO, UH, ONCE THEY GET THOSE AND HAVE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SEE HOW LONG IT'LL TAKE TO MAKE THOSE REFINEMENTS, WE'LL GET SOMETHING, UM, UH, EVERYONE'S SCHEDULED TO HAVE, UH, NOT ONLY THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING FOR THAT PROJECT, BUT OF COURSE OUR JOINT, UH, PLANNINGS ON COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
THOSE ARE ALL THE UPDATES I HAVE.
DID WE HAVE ANYTHING NEW OPEN, ANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD APPROVED? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OPENINGS IN THE LAST MONTH, THE MOST RECENT ONES? UH, WE, WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME CAUSE THEY, THEY PRETTY MUCH OPENED, UH, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING, UH, UH, THEIR ACTION BY CITY COUNCIL.
AND THAT WAS BEING BOSS AND PRESSED JUICERY, OAT, UH, BARBECUE, UH, CONSTRUCTION IS AS WELL UNDERWAY THERE.
UH, YOU'RE PROBABLY ALSO SEEING A LOT OF PROGRESS.
UM, JENI'S ICE CREAM, THEY DO HAVE A SIGN UP BISCUIT BAR RECENTLY WRAPPED UP A PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS.
SO, UM, THEY ARE PROGRESSING AND I THINK WE'LL HAVE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL OPENINGS YOU'RE SAYING UH, I'LL START WRITTEN AGENCY.
UM, I HAD NOT RECEIVED A RECENT UPDATE ON DISTRICT.
I HAVE NOT SEEN A PERMIT COME ACROSS, UH, COME THROUGH MY DEPARTMENT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT HASN'T I'LL CHECK ON THAT AND PROVIDE AN UPDATE FOR THE NEXT MEETING THAT WAS GOING TO COME IN.
THAT BOAT WAS ON A LIST THIS MORNING, VAPOR OF THE RESTAURANTS THAT JUST MISSED THE TOP 50 BARBECUE IN TEXAS.
DO YOU HAVE A GENERAL QUARTER WHEN THAT JOINED ME? MY BABY TALKING ABOUT SPRING SUMMER, UH, I WOULD SAY, UH, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF IT OCCURRING, UM, THIS YEAR.
UM, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE ARE AT A TIME WHERE EVERYONE'S TIME GETS MORE, UH, DIFFICULT TO CAPTURE.
SO, UM, MORE TO FOLLOW ON THAT.
AND THERE WAS A PRAYER ON ONE SLIDE LAST NIGHT, OPEN HOUSE.
IT SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE SAM'S CLUB TO ANOTHER NAME, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THAT.
AND WHAT, WHAT ARE THE IDEAS MAKE AROUND? UH, SO THAT IS ULTIMATELY A CHARGE THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SOME, SOME MORE, UM, UH, FROM DIRECTION ON DESIGN THEMES.
AND I THINK THAT WILL GIVE US A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, TO, UM, HAVE THE BRANDING KIND
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OF TAKE, UM, IT'S ORDERED FROM THOSE DESIGN THEMES.UM, WE HAVE SOME, A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE TABLE, A LOT FOR PEOPLE TO CONSIDER, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GET THE VISION, UH, DIALED INTO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FIRST AND THEN, AND THEN TACKLE THE BRAIN INITIATIVE AT THIS POINT.
ANYTHING BUT SAM'S CLUB THERE'S A LOT OF BAD AND GOOD FEELINGS ABOUT THAT.
YOU GUYS COME UP WITH IT'S PART OF THAT.
I HOPE NOT PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OF MIDWAY AND I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, THE BIKE PATH TREES, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE ANY OF THAT IS FOR SURE.
UM, SO THE PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, PROBABLY THE, THE, UH, POINT IN THE MIDWAY ROAD PROJECT THAT WAS MOST CONSTRAINED, UH, WOULD BE THE GREEN HILL TOWER PROPERTY.
UH, FORTUNATELY OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM AND THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WORKED, UH, QUITE A BIT TO, UH, RESOLVE A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES.
THE TREES OUT FRONT, WHERE THE PRESENTER IS BALANCED AND CONSIDERATION OF THE PARKING AND THE TOWN STILL ULTIMATELY GOT TO IMPLEMENT, UH, THE MASTER TRUE TRANSPORTATION PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TRAIL.
SO, UH, THERE WAS A HAPPY ENDING TO THAT.
UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH THE RIGHT OF WAY CONSIDERATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT WAS THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS, I WOULD SAY NOW IT'S PROBABLY LESS OF AN ISSUE FOR TRAILS AND PROBABLY MORE OF AN ISSUE OF, OF MINIMIZING MOSS OF PARKING, BUT THAT THOSE DISCUSSIONS ARE STILL ONGOING AND ALONG THE SAME LINES AGAIN, LAST NIGHT ON THE SLIDES THAT WERE SHOWN, I THINK, UM, THERE WERE VARIOUS PHASES THERE SHOWING WHERE THE OLD TRAP LINE TRYING TO GO.
AND I THINK WENT UP TO LIKE SEVEN OR EIGHT PAGES, WHICH PHASE ARE WE IN, MAN? SO WE'RE VERY BROADLY WE'RE, I'M THE PHASE BETWEEN, UH, BELTLINE AND THE SOUTHERN LIMIT TO SPRING VALLEY.
SO THAT PHASE IS SCHEDULED TO CONCLUDE, UH, SUBSTANTIALLY CONCLUDE NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR.
WHAT'S THAT FOUR OR FIVE, SIX OR SEVEN OF THE SCENARIO SHE WAS SHOWING UP THERE.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH THOSE SCENARIOS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE HIGH LEVEL PIECE THAT, THAT I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH.
[2. Discussion regarding items on the agenda for the October 19, 2021 Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting, including: September 21, 2021 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting minutes SUP for 4141 Spring Valley Road - Greenhill School Science Building (1836-SUP) SUP for 5100 Belt Line Road, Suite 868 - Low Key Poke Joint (1837-SUP) SUP for 3719 Belt Line Road - Poke Works (1840-SUP) Status update on Case 1831-Z 4150 Kellway Circle.]
MOVING ON HERE, UM, FOR OUR MINUTES, WERE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT YOU GUYS SAW THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS? ALL RIGHT, GOOD JOB.UM, THEN GREENHILL SCHOOL SCIENCE BUILDING.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT OR I GUESS MAYBE LET'S JUST SAY 30 QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE START, I SENT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU TO ADDRESS THOSE? SURE.
UH, I HAVE QUESTIONS, UH, FROM, UH, VICE-CHAIR SOURS AND THEN ALSO YOUR QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO DISSEMINATE.
UM, SO JUST VERY BRIEFLY HIGH LEVEL, UH, THE PROJECTS.
UM, SO THE EXISTING SCIENCE BUILDING BUILT IN 1964.
UH, NO THAT WAS RECENTLY DEMOLISHED.
UH, THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY WENT BEFORE THE COMMISSION TO, UH, RECEIVE APPROVAL FOR TEMPORARY BUILDINGS TO HOUSE THE STUDENTS, UH, DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, UM, THAT THE PROPOSED NEW SCIENCE BUILDING IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
SO THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT NEW SCIENCE BUILDING.
UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THEN THIS CAME FROM, UH,
UH, YOU MAY RECALL, UH, WHEN WE REVIEWED THE RECENTLY REVIEW OF THE TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY PROJECT, THE ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY IS PLAINTIFF DEVELOPED A ZONING FOR THIS.
THE GREEN HILL CAMPUS HAS A MIXED ZONING DESIGNATION.
SO IT IS, UM, LARGELY, UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO OUR ONE, AND THEN A LITTLE BIT OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAN MOST OF REALLY WHAT HAS PROVIDED THE REGULATORY AUTHORITY TO, UH, BUILD OUT THE CAMPUS HAS BEEN A, A LONG SERIES OF SPECIAL USE PERMITS.
UM, SO THE QUESTION, UH, WAS IS, IS THAT NORMAL, SHOULD THE TOWN, UH, DIRECT THEM TO, UM, UH, REZONE THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT SIMILAR TO TCA? UM, SO IN MOST CITIES, THE ZONING THAT IS APPLIED HERE IS, IS NOT UNCONVENTIONAL.
UH, SO TYPICALLY AN INSTITUTIONAL USE SUCH AS A CHURCH OR A SCHOOL.
UM, THOSE ARE PERMITTED IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.
SO THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT THOSE ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, UH, IN THOSE DISTRICTS, LIKE, SO PLAYING OVER EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE BIG, THE DOMINANT CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT COMMUNITY IS
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GENERALLY HAVE AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR A MIDDLE SCHOOL OR A HIGH SCHOOL AND MOST MAJOR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS.AND TYPICALLY, UH, IT'S JUST THAT ZONING THAT REMAINED THE SAME SINGLE FAMILY ZONING.
AND THEN, UH, THERE'S, UH, INSTITUTIONAL USES PERMITTED BY, RIGHT.
AND THEY HAVE USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS FOR THIS INSTITUTIONAL USES.
SO, UM, OUR SCENARIO HERE IS SIMILAR TO THAT OTHER COMMUNITIES I'VE WORKED IN WET AS WELL, MAYBE KEPT, UH, THE, UH, BASE ZONING OF THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING, BUT THEN REQUIRED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE INSTITUTIONAL USE.
SO THAT IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO HERE, SO IT'S NOT INAPPROPRIATE.
UM, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT WOULD NOT BE INAPPROPRIATE EITHER TO REZONE IT TO PD.
UM, MY ADVICE FOR THE COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY THE APPLICANT WOULD BE TO PURSUE THAT, UH, PD REZONING, IF THEY WERE TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE WITH LIKE A MASTER PLAN.
AND THAT WAS THE BIG DRIVER FOR TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY TO, TO, UH, ADOPT A CONCEPT PLAN AND REGULATORY PLAN FOR THE WHOLE CAMPUS THAT WOULD BE USED TO GUIDE THE BUILD AND EVOLUTION OF THE CAMPUS.
UH, GREENHILL HAS KIND OF DONE IT PIECE BY PIECE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY WRONG, BUT YOU COULD THEORETICALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A BROADER, MORE LONGER TERM PLAN AND, AND, AND, UH, UH, CAPTURE THAT IN A, IN A PD DISTRICT.
SO IT, WHEN I MEET WITH GREENHILL NEXT TIME, WHEN, WHEN THEY BRING FORWARD A PROJECT, BUT THAT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT PERHAPS RECOMMEND THAT THEY DO, BUT HOW THIS IS NOW, IT IS NOT INAPPROPRIATE AND NOT ATYPICAL FROM HOW CITIES, UM, ADDRESS THESE TYPES OF USES ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT CONFLICT WHEN WE GET THE UDC REVISE, BECAUSE THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT CAME WITH THAT WERE APPROPRIATE FOR SINGLE FAMILY.
AND AS FAR AS DRIVEWAYS AND HEIGHT OF BUILDING STUFF, IS THERE GOING TO BE SOME ISSUES WITH GOING FORWARD AS A RESIDENTIAL, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE NEW UDC MAY MAKE DESCRIBED AS, AS APPROPRIATE? UH, THE KEY THING FOR THIS USE MUCH, IF NOT ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS THAT ARE THE BASE OF THE ZONING, DON'T REALLY APPLY, IT'S HAVING USE SPECIFIC STANDARDS OR EVEN GENERAL STANDARDS FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO PARKING IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
WE HAVE A PARKING TABLE THAT WOULD SAY, OKAY, A SCHOOL NEEDS TO BE PARKED AT THIS RATIO.
UM, HAVING, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDSCAPE AND PARKING LOTS SIMILAR CONSIDERATION WOULD APPLY.
THIS IS A SITE THAT WOULD HAVE PARKING LOT.
SO HAVING GENERAL AND USE SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO THIS USE VERSUS ONLY BEING ABLE TO APPLY RESIDENTIAL DESIGN STANDARDS REALLY GIVES YOU THAT ABILITY TO HAVE THIS USE OF REGULATED APPROPRIATELY, AND ASSUMING THAT THEY ARE APPROVED BY US AND COUNCIL, IT WOULD ALL BE GRANDFATHERED IN ANY WAY.
I'M NOT SURE I'M FOLLOWING THAT BY ASSUMING THAT WE APPROVE WHAT THE WAY IT IS NOW.
AND THEY WERE TO COME BACK AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, IT WOULD BE, UNLESS, UNLESS I WENT TO A MASTER PLAN, IT WOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN BECAUSE IT JUST ASSUMED THAT WAY NOW.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IF YOU REZONED A PD IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER IT WOULD BE, SO I WOULDN'T SAY GRANDFATHERED, I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'VE COMPLIED, THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING.
SO THE QUESTION I HAD SENT TO YOU CAN ADD TO DO ALONG SIMILAR LINES, BUT IT WAS A DIFFERENT DESCRIPTION IN THE PRIOR APPLICATION FOR TCA SAID, BECAUSE IT IS RESIDENTIAL.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO COMPLY WITH LANDSCAPE.
AND THEN GET ME WONDERING THEN WHY DID WE FORCE THEM TO DO THE MITIGATION PROTOCOL, BUT THEN A GREENDALE.
IT SAYS IT'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY DO HAVE TO ADHERE TO A LANDSCAPE PLAN.
SO I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO IF THEY'RE BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND YOU'VE KIND OF SAID, THEY AREN'T REALLY BOTH RESIDENTIAL.
WHY DOES ONE HAVE ONE LANDSCAPE STAFF VIEWS LANDSCAPE ONE WAY VERSUS THE OTHER, AND THEN WILL THERE BE A MITIGATION PROTOCOL AT GREENHILL? I NEEDED A TCA.
SO THAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN.
SO, AND THAT WAS A GREAT QUESTION.
THAT THERE'S SOME NUANCE TO THAT ISSUE THAT WE, WE COULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OF CAPTURING IT.
SO, UH, JUST IN GENERAL, UH, THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS DON'T APPLY IT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, BUT THIS IS NOT A PROPERTY DEVELOPING UNDER THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT STANDARDS.
IT'S DEVELOPING, UH, UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THE LANDSCAPE STANDARDS DO APPLY TO A PROPERTY THAT WOULD DEVELOP, UH, UNDER A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO I'VE DONE A DETAILED ANALYSIS AND I'LL WORK THROUGH IT WITH YOU ON WHEN WE GET TO THE ITEM, UH, TALKING ABOUT FIRST TREE PRESERVATION AND TREE MITIGATION.
SO ALL LAND IN ADDISON, A TREE
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MITIGATION AND TREE REPLACEMENT TREE PRESERVATION REQUIREMENTS APPLY.SO THEY WILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH THAT JUST AS TRINITY, CHRISTIAN AND ACADEMY, UM, COMPLY WITH THAT.
UH, THE LANDSCAPE, UH, REQUIREMENTS ALSO APPLY TO THIS AS WELL.
AND THAT'S DUE TO THE FACT THAT THEY'RE APPLYING FOR AN SEP AS I NOTED EARLIER.
SO, UH, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO THINGS SUCH AS PROVIDE FOR A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE AREA.
THEY HAVE ACHIEVED THAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE A BUFFER ALONG HORNET ROAD.
THEY'VE ACHIEVED THAT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT IMPACT AREA, WHERE THE SITE GETS A LITTLE, UM, UNIQUE AND THEN WHERE WE ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER HOW WE TREATED TCA.
UM, SO THE SCIENCE BUILDING AREA, WE HAVE THE SCIENCE BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS REALLY THE FOCUS OF OUR CASE TONIGHT, BUT THEN WE HAVE A PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO IT.
THE SCIENCE BUILDING IS GOING TO HAVE LANDSCAPING EVERYWHERE.
IT'S GOING TO, IT'S GOING TO BE BEAUTIFUL.
THAT'S LIKE, WELL COMPLY WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS.
THEY WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS FOR TREES.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT, BUT IT LOOKS GREAT.
IT, IT MEETS THE WHAT'S NOT IN THE SCOPE OF THEIR PROJECT IS REDOING THE PARKING LOT.
THEY'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING WITH A PARKING LOT.
UM, IF YOU LOOK, UH, SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH HOW GREEN HELL IS EVOLVED, SOME YOU MAY NOT, BUT, UH, I'LL SHOW IT IN THE PRESENTATION TONIGHT.
UM, AROUND 1985, THERE WAS ADDITIONAL BUILD-OUT.
SO THE CURRENT PARKING LOT, BUT IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE SCIENCE BUILDING.
UH, MOST OF THAT WAS ACTUALLY LANDSCAPE AREA.
UH, THERE IS BASICALLY TWO AISLES OF PARKING, BUT EVENTUALLY IT ALL BECAME PARKING OR MOST OF IT.
AND SO AT SOME POINT WE APPROVED THAT TO BE A PARKING LOT.
IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A PARKING LOT THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN MOST PLACES IN ADDISON WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S ALSO TUCKED IN DEEP INTO A PROPERTY AND IT'S NOT ON A ROAD, BUT WE APPROVED OF THAT AT SOME POINT.
UM, ALSO, UH, WITH TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, THEY HAD SIMILAR ISSUES IN THAT THEY WERE BUILDING AN INFILL BUILDING AND WEREN'T REALLY RECONFIGURING THE PARKING ALL.
ULTIMATELY WE APPLIED THE TRIGGER PLACEMENT REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE DID NOT MAKE THEM DO A BUNCH OF NEW INTERIOR LANDSCAPE IN THE PARKING LOTS.
BOTH OF THOSE CAMPUSES HAVE, UM, PRETTY TIGHT PARKING MARGINS.
UM, UH, GREENHILL COULD ADD SOME PARKING, UH, LANDSCAPING.
UH, WE CAN DISCUSS A WAY THAT THEY CAN DO THAT, UH, TONIGHT, UH, WOULD THAT MEAN SAID GIVEN HOW WE TREATED TCA, UM, AND GIVEN THAT WE AT ONE POINT ALLOW THEM TO ELIMINATE A LOT OF LANDSCAPE TO CREATE AND GROW THAT PARKING LOT.
I'M NOT SURE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR US TO TELL THEM TO BRING IT FULLY UP TO CODE.
I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE IT, POTENTIAL AGENT, AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT.
BUT, UH, GIVEN THAT IT'S BEEN A PERMIT BEFORE AND BE TREATED TCA, UH, ONE WAY AS WELL, UH, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO REALLY FOCUS THE LANDSCAPE COMMENTS ON THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT IMPACT AREA.
ARE YOU GOING TO PRESENT TONIGHT AT THE DIRECTOR MEETING THEIR PLANS FOR SOME OF THOSE TREES ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE, BUT THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT JUST PHENOMENALLY OLD MAJESTIC WILL HAVE A PROBABLY I SEE ON THE PLAN, THERE'S A LITTLE TREE THAT ALL THIS ONCE IT'S ACTUALLY THERE.
SO MITIGATION WOULD BE THE BIG ISSUE.
SO I WILL SHOW YOU SLIDES FOR EVERY TREE THAT'S BEING REMOVED.
I WALKED THE SITE AND TOOK PHOTOS.
SO BASICALLY THEY ARE PROPOSING TO PLANT, UM, UH, 284 INCHES OF NEW TREES.
UH, MOST OF THOSE ARE EIGHT INCH CALIPER TREES AND THEY ARE REMOVING ABOUT 360 INCHES OF TREES.
SO THERE'S AN 80, 80 INCH DELTA.
UH, AND, AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE, THEY HAVE PRESERVED THEM INGEST A 50 INCH CALIPER TREE.
IT'S JUST, THERE'S, UH, THESE CAMPUSES THAT A BIG PART OF A CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT IS LANDSCAPING, AND YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT A LOT OF TREES.
SO NOW THAT THEY EVOLVE AND GROW AND START TO DENSIFY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO AVOID TREE REMOVAL.
THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB, BUT JUST LIKE TCA THERE'S A LOT THAT GETS IMPACTED.
SO THEY HAVE 80 INCHES I'VE GIVEN, UH, LAID OUT THREE OPTIONS FOR THE, THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
ONE OF THOSE, UH, IS AN APPLICANT REQUEST.
UH, SO ANNUALLY, THEY PLANT TREES FOR ARBOR DAY.
THEY WOULD LIKE CONSIDERATION FOR SOME OF THOSE PLANTINGS.
THEY WOULD ULTIMATELY HAVE TO PROVE THAT UP AND SHOW THAT THEY DID PLANT THOSE TREES.
ANOTHER OPTION WOULD BE TO PLANT NEW TREES, EITHER IN THAT PARKING LOT OR ELSEWHERE ON CAMPUS TO MAKE UP THOSE 80 INCHES.
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ON THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH TCA, WHERE THEY PAID MONEY INTO A REPLACEMENT FUND.W WITH THAT FIRST OPTION, WOULD, WOULD THERE BE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO GO INTO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND PLANT TREES IF IT WAS NECESSARY? AND YOUR REASON I ASK I'VE NOTICED THAT ESPECIALLY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND DISEASE WENT THROUGH AND TO GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF LAB FOLKS, I THINK THAT'D BE GREAT TO OFFER A HOMEOWNER.
YOU POTENTIALLY WOULDN'T WANT, WERE IN PLACE IN TREAT.
WE COULDN'T DO IT ON A PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT IN STREET, RIGHT OF WAY AT PARKS, WE CAN TAKE YOU INTO THE CRASH IF IT WAS LIKE A LANDSCAPE MEDIAN AND PUBLIC.
SO THE QUESTIONS ON GREEN HILL, I HADN'T, I HAD ONE, I IT'S JUST SO I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT APPROPRIATE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING LEVEL, BUT THERE IS A NOISE ORDINANCE.
THE TOWN HAS, I THINK IT KICKS IN AT SEVEN 30, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE THAT A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT THIS LONG, SO CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT NOISE WOMENS GETS RESPECTED.
AND IF THERE'S ANY MITIGATION THAT'S NEEDED, I THINK THERE ARE STEPS THAT'S MY DEPARTMENT.
SO IT WOULD BE THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS OF THE COATING.
SO WE WILL, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THAT.
AND CERTAINLY WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES LIKE THAT, WE, WE HEAR ABOUT IT AND THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD THING.
UH, HAVING EYES AND EARS OUT IN THE COMMUNITIES IS EXTREMELY HELPFUL.
SO, AND THE THREE OPTIONS YOU GAVE ABOUT THEM DOING ACTUAL PAINTING ON, ARE WE TALKING LIKE THE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO HAVE A WORK DAY, THEY GO DO ARBOR DAY OR IS IT TURNOVER TO PRODUCTION? OKAY.
SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES, BUT THEY HAVEN'T PROVEN IT UP.
UM, BUT THEY PLANT LIKE FOUR-INCH CALIPER TREES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS.
UM, NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STUDENTS PLANNING THEM OR IF IT'S THE GROUNDS AND MAINTENANCE STAFF IS PLANNING THEM.
BUT, UH, UH, THAT IS, THAT IS WHAT THEY'VE SHARED WITH ME.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE SAPLINGS, IT'S LIKE FOUR INCH CALIBER TREES.
WELL, THEY'D BE HERE TO SAY YES, YES.
WE'RE BEING GOOD CITIZENS IN THE PAST BY VOLUNTARILY PLANTING TREES.
NOW THEY WANT TO GET CREDIT FOR SOME OF THE WORK THAT THEY CORRECT.
AND IF THEY DID JUST WRITE A CHECK THAT THIRD OPTION.
SO IS THAT FUNDAMENTAL TO ANYONE IN TOWN OR IS THAT JUST FOR TRAINEES? JUST FOR PUBLIC SPACES, IF HE COULD GET ONE OUT OF MY YARD, EVEN TOO, THEY WANT TO PAY TO DO THEM OUT THERE.
AND ONE OF MY, ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON GREENHILL TO LOCATE AND JENNIFER IS GOING TO TAKE THESE TO BEAT HER AT FIVE.
SO I GUESS FIRST LET'S START OUT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT LEAD HOKEY JOINED? YEAH, OF COURSE.
UM, ARE THEY, IS SOMEBODY FROM OKAY.
GOING TO BE HERE AT NINE? YES.
CAUSE I'VE GOT SOME FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RAMP THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT IN.
UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE ADA COMPLIANT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S TOO STEEP, TOO SHORT.
SO I'M WONDERING WHY THEY JUST DON'T PUT STEPS IN THERE.
UM, BECAUSE A RAMP OF THAT SLOPE, I THINK WOULD BE MORE DANGEROUS THAN JUST PUTTING STEPS IN BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF OPEN STAFFS, BECAUSE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IS NOT ADA.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, MY VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY BEFORE ABOUT ADA PARKING SPOTS AND THE RAMP THAT GOES UP TO THIS RESTAURANT.
THERE'S NO ADA PARKING AT THE END OF THAT GRANT.
THERE IS ANOTHER RAMP AT THE NEXT STORE DOWN, BUT IT, THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO UP THAT RAMP DOWN THE RAMP, COME DOWN TO THE SIDEWALK, GO THE WHOLE LENGTH OF LO POKEY AND THEN COME BACK AROUND.
SO I'M JUST, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO WITH THE VILLAGE ON PARKWAY OWNERS TO HAVE THEM TAKE NUMBER, LOOK AT WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING THESE RAMPS VERSUS REALLY PUTTING APART, UH, 88 APARTMENTS? SO THOSE ARE MY TWO CONCERNS ON THIS.
SO THE, UM, RAMP ITSELF, INITIALLY THERE WERE, THERE WERE STEPS IN THAT WAS MODIFIED TO A RAMP, UM, TO PROVIDE JUST THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE EXISTING AND THE EXPANSION THAT'S PROPOSED.
UM, WE CAN, DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT IS, IS
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OUR, OUR BUILDING PERMIT DIVISION DID LOOK AT THE RAMP ITSELF.UM, AND IT WASN'T NOTED AS FAR AS, UM, IT BEING AN ISSUE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADDRESS WITH THE OWNER IF IT IS COMPLIANT WITH ADA OR NOT.
UM, NOW AS FAR AS THE PARKING SPACES FOR ADA, UM, THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE HERE.
UM, AND WE CAN DISCUSS WITH THEM WHAT OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL, UM, ADA PARKING SPACES NEAR THAT RAMP.
NOW CERTAINLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN TOTAL, JUST LIKE WE ALWAYS DO WITH THE PARKING SPACES BECAUSE OF THE GARAGE SKEWS, EVERYTHING, I'M SURE WHEN IT COMES TO ADA PARKING SPACES, THEY'RE PROBABLY IN COMPLIANCE, BUT THEY'RE JUST IN A WAY THAT IS NOT REAL EFFICIENT FOR SOMEBODY WHO IS ADA.
IT'S JUST, AND THEN IT WAS REALLY BAD AT THIS LOCATION.
I ACTUALLY TOOK A PHOTO OF ONE OF THE RAMPS.
LAST TIME I WENT THERE, YOU'RE IN THE PARKING LOT AND YOU HAVE A WALKWAY AND IT LEADS TO JUST A CURB.
AND SO WHEN YOU SAID THAT OWNER IS GOING TO BE HERE, REPRESENTATIVE OF THE OWNER OWNERS.
ANY OTHER LOW KEY? I I'M GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY EXPLAIN TO ME, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE RUN INTO THIS AND IT QUITS IT DOWN AND WE'VE GOT ANOTHER ONE, THE TERM POKEY POKE, WOULD IT HOWEVER IT IS.
AND THEN I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
I WAS FROM THE SCRIPT AND I GATHERED HIS HAWAIIAN TYPE.
YEAH, IT'S A HAWAIIAN CUISINE, IF YOU WILL.
UM, AND THEY'RE BOTH SIMILAR IN NATURE.
THE, UH, THE LOW KEY POKEY JOINT IS A FUSION WITH JAPANESE.
I HAVEN'T PERSONALLY VISITED THEIR ESTABLISHMENT, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
IT'S A HAWAIIAN, JAPANESE INSPIRED POKEY BAR.
SO YOU BASICALLY GO THROUGH A LINE AND YOU PICK OUT YOUR TOPPINGS AND IT'S A, UM, UM, RAW FISH AND YOU CHOOSE YOUR SAUCE, YOUR BASE RICE NOODLES, AND YOU PICK DIFFERENT, UM, UH, VEGETABLES AND NOT, AND THEY PREPARE THAT WITH MY ANIMALS.
IT'S LIKE DECONSTRUCTED, SLEEPY.
I MEAN, YOU CAN MAKE IT DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR THE SAUCE.
AND THEN OUT OF THE BLUE, WE GOT A SECOND FOLKY, WHATEVER I WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THIS HAPPENING AT THE SAME NIGHT? SO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SURE.
SO THIS IS A NEW RESTAURANT, UH, PROPOSED AT THE ABSENT AND PLAZA SHOPPING CENTER AT THE, UM, WHAT THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF MARSH AND BELTLINE.
UM, IT'S A SIMILAR CONCEPT OF FAST CASUAL, A HAWAIIAN POKEY BAR, A SIMILAR CONCEPT, EAT YOU THE BASE AND PROTEIN, VEGETABLES SAUCES.
UM, THEY ARE, UM, THEY HAVE SEVERAL LOCATIONS IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH REGION.
AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO OPEN A LOCATION IN ADDISON.
UM, IT'S UM, THE PREVIOUS, AND IT'S BEEN THIS, THIS TENANT SPACES IN VACANT FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
THE PREVIOUS TENANT WAS A VIDEO GAME STORE RETAIL.
UM, SO THERE'S NO PREVIOUS, UH, SPECIAL USE PERMIT AT THIS SPECIFIC TENANT SPACE THERE.
THEREFORE THE RESTAURANT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THE ORIGINAL ONE WILL NOT HAVE ANY, UM, SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES.
SO IT WILL JUST BE RESTAURANT.
THERE IS A SMALL PATIO, UM, PROPOSED FOR, UH, TWO TABLES FOR FOUR.
YES, VERY SMALL, NOT A WHOLE LOT OF OUTDOOR SPACE THERE.
AND THERE'S ALSO A RAMP THERE THAT KIND OF LIMITS THEIR OUTDOOR SPACE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S PART OF THE, THEIR CONCEPT OR THEIR MENU.
UM, IN MY PRESENTATION, I, I INCLUDED A, UM, OF THEIR MENU AND IT'S NOT TYPICAL OF THEIR OPERATIONS, STRICTLY COOKIE.
I UNDERSTAND THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION IS SUCH A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ENTIRE CENTER.
SO WE'RE NOT HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR LANDSCAPING.
DO WE KNOW, IS THE CENTER, UM, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LANDSCAPE, UM, THERE IS LIKELY SOME DEFICIENCIES, UH, WITHIN THE PROPERTIES WHERE IT IS, IT RELATES TO LANDSCAPING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE SPECIFICALLY.
UM, BUT JUST, UH, GENERAL GLANDS.
I WOULD, MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THERE, THERE MAY BE SOME PICTURES I TOOK.
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IT'S ACTUALLY EXTREMELY WELL LANDSCAPED, THE BUFFER BETWEEN YOUR PARKING LOT AND BELTLINE.I WAS BETTING THIS WASTELAND AND IT'S NOT, IT'S JUST VERY NICE.
IT HAS A GREAT EDGE PROBABLY WHERE IT'S DEFICIENT IS LIKE PARKING ISLANDS.
AND THIS IS A SITE THAT IS, UH, IT'S GOING TO RUN INTO PARKING CONSTRAINTS.
IT'S STARTING TO TILT TOWARDS RESTAURANT RESTAURANT WHEN IT WAS PLANNED.
AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING UP AGAINST THAT ISSUE.
SO LIKELY THIS WILL BE PROBABLY THE LAST RESTAURANT THAT WILL BE ALLOWED WITHOUT ADDITIONAL WORK.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE DICKIES CONCEPT IS GOING TO PUT A LOT MORE BURDEN ON PARKING, TOO, IF THAT GETS UP AND RUNNING.
AND AN UPDATE ON OUR AMAZON, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, VERY QUIET.
UH, SINCE I LAST MEETING, THEY DID COMMUNICATE PRIOR TO THE LAST MEETING THAT, UM, THEY INTENDED, UH, TO, UH, UH, MOVE FORWARD AT THIS MEETING, UM, DUE TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE NOTED, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING, UH, WE WANTED TO RE NOTICE BEFORE THAT, THAT THEY CAME FORWARD.
SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAD APPROPRIATE NOTICE.
THEN WE ALSO HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE TEXT OF THE NOTICE THAT WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS.
UM, THEY WERE VERY SILENT, UH, THROUGHOUT THAT PERIOD AND ULTIMATELY, UH, UH, ADVISE US THAT THEY WERE NOT READY TO MOVE FORWARD FOR THIS MEETING.
UH, SO, UH, WITH THAT, WE JUST WANT TO PROVIDE THIS UPDATE, UH, IF ANYONE WAS EXPECTING TO SEE THAT, UM, AGENDA, I WANT TO ENSURE THAT FOLKS KNOW THE UPDATE AND, UH, UH, TENTATIVELY TARGETED THE NEXT MEETING, BUT THAT IS NOT ANYTHING THAT I CAN, UH, UH, SHARE WITH YOU.
THAT WOULD BE A FIRM EXPECTATION AT THIS POINT.
IS YOUR CENSUS, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S, UH, IT'S VERY, UH, ONCE AGAIN, REDEVELOPMENT AND REUSE IT'S, UH, NOTHING IS EASY.
UM, UH, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW CONCEPTS, UH, SO, UH, THERE'S MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN A TOUGH SPOT TRYING TO MAKE EVERYTHING WORK.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THAT PROJECT.
IT'S NOT OUT PROPOSED KNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S AMAZON.
UH, THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION, UH, UH, WITH US.
SO IT, THAT IS FINE THAT IT'S PUBLIC.
I JUST KNEW THAT, THAT THEY TRUST ME WITH THEM AND THEY ARE HONEST, CONSTANTLY NOT USING THEIR NAME PUBLICLY.
SO IN CASE WE NEED TO BE SENSITIVE ABOUT THAT.
NO, THAT IS NOT A CONCERN FOR ME.
THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION BEFORE US.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU NEED TO TELL US, KIM? THIS I DO.
I WAS, UH, I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE THIS ON THE FRONT END OF THE MEETING.
WE HAVE, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM OUR NEW CITY ATTORNEY WITH US.
I'LL LET HER INTRODUCE HERSELF.
UM, I'M FROM WHAT THE NOW SKI I'M ACTUALLY, MY NAME IS SHANNON OR BOBBY.
I'VE SPENT MOST OF MY CAREER REPRESENTING SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
UM, I'VE WORKED WITH WALSH ANDERSON FOR THE PAST, OVER A DECADE.
AND BEFORE THAT LOTS OF FIRMS, BUT MOSTLY I'VE DONE GOVERNMENTAL PRACTICE MY ENTIRE CAREER.
SO, AND I WORKED WITH W WYATT WHO YOU GUYS HIRED, AND HE HAPPENS TO BE MY LITTLE BROTHER AS WELL.
UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PARTNERSHIP.
YOU'RE, YOU'VE CHOSEN A VERY DIFFERENT, GREAT PEOPLE, LOTS OF EXPERIENCE.
AND YOU WON'T BE DISAPPOINTED.
IF YOU NEED ME, I TOLD KEN, YOU GUYS LET ME KNOW HOW I CAN HELP YOU.
I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE BULLY TYPE ATTORNEYS ONCE TO RUN THINGS, UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO DO THAT.
AND LOTS OF EXPERIENCE IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR NAME.
WOULD YOU SAY IT AGAIN? SHAMAN ASSET WHEN A BUSINESS.
SO I'M ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, SO KIND OF HELPS ME.
IT GIVES ME A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, SO, SURE.
WE'RE YOU HAPPY WITH US? THANK YOU.
I'M GLAD TO BE HERE IS YOUR SMALL BUSINESS HERE IN, AND IT'S ACTUALLY NOT.
I ACTUALLY LIVE IN LUCAS AND I AM MOVING SOON BECAUSE MY LAST IS GRADUATING FROM HIGH SCHOOL NEXT DECEMBER.
SO YOU'RE NOT MAKING THE ADS I ACTUALLY MADE CAUSE I WANT TO LIVE BY LOVE FIELD SO I CAN,
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED LOOKING AT PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA, SO WONDERFUL.
CAN, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WATERFORD COURT APARTMENTS,
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THEY HAD TO TEAR OUT ALL THAT BUSHES THROUGH THERE THAT WAS STORM DAMAGE.THAT'S A LOT OF PROPERTIES AND COMING BACK AND REGION.
SO THE, UM, ONE OF THE GREAT CHALLENGES OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT HAS RIGHT NOW IS LANDSCAPE ENFORCEMENT.
AND WE ACTUALLY HIRED A NEW CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, AND ONE OF HIS ROLES IS TO ASSIST WITH THAT.
BUT, UH, WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH, UH, UH, IN THE THROWS OF DEALING WITH THE LOSS LANDSCAPE FROM THE TEXAS FREEZE, WE HAVE SUPPLY ISSUES.
WE HAVE, UH, FOLKS THAT, UH, MAY NOT WANT TO COMMIT THE RESOURCES TO DOING IT.
SO, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A CODE ENFORCEMENT CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WORKING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND CONTINUING TO, TO, UM, UH, ENGAGE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT MAYBE AREN'T RESPONDING AS FAST.
UM, BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET THAT LOSS LANDSCAPE REPLACED.
ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, WELL, WE WILL ADJOURN OUR WORK SESSION AND WE WILL BE BACK FOR A REGULAR MEETING AT SIX O'CLOCK.