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[ Call Meeting to Order]
TO ORDER.SO BEFORE WE GO TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION TO BE STAND UP, THE I DO THE FLAG ULTIMATELY STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ EXECUTIVE SESSION Closed (Executive) Session of the Addison City Council pursuant to: Section 551.074, Tex. Gov. Code, to deliberate the appointment, employment, evaluation, reassignment, duties, discipline or dismissal of a public officer or employee, pertaining to: City Attorney Section 551.071, Tex. Gov. Code, Consultation with an attorney to seek legal advice regarding pending or contemplated litigation or settlement offer regarding: Town of Addison, Texas v. CP Greenhill, LLC, and BBVA USA, f/k/a Compass Bank, Cause No. CC-20-01139-B, County Court at Law No. 2, Dallas County, Texas. (Greenhill Towers)]
WE HAVE POSSESSION OVER THE ADDISON CITY CONCERT PURSUANT TO SECTION 501 ZERO SEVEN FOUR PASSES OF GOVERNMENT GOATTHE SECOND ONE IS
NUMBER OF CC 20 ZERO ONE ONE THREE NINE.
UP IN THE COUNTY COURT AT LAW.
NUMBER TWO, DOES HE TEXTS US GREEN HOURS.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO THROUGH THE SESSION RIGHT NOW.
[ Reconvene in to Regular Session: In accordance with Texas Government Code, Chapter 551, the City Council will reconvene into Regular Session to consider action, if any, on matters discussed in Executive Session.]
X DATE SEVEN SESSION AND 8:22 PM.SO FOR THE FIRST IDEA, CITY ATTORNEY, DO I HAVE MOTION MAYOR? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO BEGIN NEGOTIATIONS WITH A LAW FIRM, RIGHT? MOST QUALIFIED BY THE CITY COUNCIL DURING THE EXECUTIVE SESSION REPORT STATUS COUNCILS.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION ON PAUL SET ON LAURIE AND ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.
THE SECOND ITEM IS TOM EDISON.
HE'LL CALL IS NO ACTION TAKEN.
SO GOING INTO WORK SESSION, I CAN NUMBER ONE,
[1. Present and Discuss the Future Operation of the Addison Conference Centre.]
PRESENT, DISCUSS THE FUTURE OPERATION AS THE CONFERENCE CENTER, JASMINEI AM HERE THIS EVENING TO SHARE SOME UM, SO I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO SHARE AN ANALYSIS OF THE OPERATIONS OF THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER AND PRESENT VARIOUS OPTIONS FOR HOW IT CAN OPERATE IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER WAS BUILT IN 1992.
IT HAS BEEN OPERATED BY STAFF FUNDED THROUGH THE HOTEL PHONE, AND THAT'S OPERATED AS A MEETING AND SPECIAL EVENT RENTAL FACILITY FOR THE DURATION IN MARCH OF 2020, THAT FACILITY WAS TEMPORARILY CLOSED DUE TO COVID-19.
AND THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS OF THAT PANDEMIC LED AS TO EXTEND THAT CLOSURE THROUGH THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 2021, AS WE ARE NEARING THE END OF THAT AND WORKING ON THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022, WE'VE DEVELOPED FOUR OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE DIRECTION OF THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER, WHICH I AM THERE TO
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AS AN OVERVIEW.THE OVERALL FACILITY IS JUST OVER 14,000 SQUARE FEET.
IT IS MADE UP OF ONE LARGE BALLROOM ABOUT 6,600 SQUARE FEET, RIGHT.
IT ALSO INCLUDES A LOBBY FOR EXHIBITION SPACE AND THE NEIGHBORING STONE COTTAGE IS ALSO RENTED OUT BY THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER STAFF OR MEETINGS AS LEFT IN CALENDAR YEAR 2019.
THAT FACILITY WAS RENTED OUT FOR 270 BOOKINGS.
UM, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE TYPES OF BOOKINGS, THE SHOWN HERE WITH APPROXIMATELY HALF OF THOSE BOOKINGS FEEDING BUSINESS GROUPS, USING THE SPACE FOR A FEW HOURS FOR MEETINGS AND CLASSES, THE NEXT LARGEST USE HAVING BEEN SOCIAL EVENTS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE KAYLA'S WEDDINGS, BAR MITZVAHS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
THE RENTAL RATES ARE SHOWN HERE 1,440 OR AN EIGHT HOUR RENTAL ON WEEKDAYS AND 2,160 OR ANY OTHER RENTAL ON THE WEEKENDS.
SO PRIOR TO MARCH, 2020 AND THE FACILITY OPERATED SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, IT HAD EIGHT FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND OFFERED IN-HOUSE CATERING SERVICES THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH A PRIVATE CATERER AND ALSO OFFERED IN HOUSE AUDIO VISUAL SERVICES THROUGH MAINTENANCE OF EQUIPMENT AND A SPECIFIC AUDIO VISUAL STAFF POSITION.
THE MAJORITY OF THE BOOKINGS HAVE TAKEN PLACE ON TUESDAYS, WEDNESDAYS AND THURSDAYS.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, NOTE THAT THE 2020 BOOKINGS LISTED ON HERE, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAD ON THE BOOKS UP TO MARCH, 2020.
WE HAD BOOKINGS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE YEAR, UM, THAT WERE ULTIMATELY LATER CANCELED, BUT DID USE THAT INFORMATION FOR PURPOSES OF SEEING THE FREQUENCY OF DEBUT.
YES, THE FINANCIALS HAVE VARIED.
UM, WE HAVE LISTED HERE FOR EACH FISCAL YEAR, THE REVENUES EXPENSES AND THE NET DEFICIT OR THE FACILITY IT'S AVERAGED $441,620 DEFICIT SINCE 2014.
IF YOU WERE TO EXCLUDE FISCAL YEAR 20 DUE TO THE CLOSURE, THAT AVERAGE DEFICIT WOULD HAVE BEEN APPROXIMATELY $420,000.
UM, THAT, THAT, THAT SAID IS HIGHER THAN SEVERAL OF OUR SIMILARLY SIZED MUNICIPAL VENUES.
UM, I LOOKED AT THE ATRIUM AND GARLAND, THE RUTH JACKSON CENTER IN GRAND PRAIRIE, THE COLLEYVILLE CENTER, THE GRAPEVINE CONVENTION CENTER AND THE RICHARDSON CIVIC CENTER, AND OF THOSE FACILITIES, FOUR OF THOSE FIVE HAD A LOWER AVERAGE DEFICIT.
UM, THEN THEY ADDED SOME CONFERENCE CENTER THAT RANGED ANYWHERE FROM 23,000, UH, UP TO $660,000 THAT THE FITS FOR THOSE FIVE FACILITIES.
SO THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE FACILITY IS THAT IT'S CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC.
THE FACILITY HAS BEEN USED FOR INTERNAL PURPOSES FOR STAFF MEETINGS AND STAFF TRAININGS, AND HAS ALSO BEEN USED FOR ELECTIONS BOTH IN NOVEMBER AND MAY.
UM, IT'S BEING MONITORED BY MYSELF AS WELL AS MY STAFF FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THE GENERAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MAINTAINED AND AVAILABLE FOR USE.
AND WE BUDGETED THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, JUST OVER $200,000 JUST TO COVER BASIC MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS COSTS.
SO AS WE LOOK AHEAD FOR THE FUTURE OPTIONS FOR THE FACILITY, THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS TO CONSIDER, INCLUDING THE FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY OF THE FACILITY, DEPENDING ON HOW IT'S OPERATED THE FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE FACILITY ON THE HOTEL FUND, WHETHER THE FACILITY OPERATES IN CONJUNCTION WITH, OR IN SUPPORT OF OUR LOCAL HOTELS OR WHETHER WE FEEL THAT IT IS COMPETITION FOR OUR LOCAL HOTELS, THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY, IN THE AREA, PARTICULARLY THE BUSINESSES AND ADDISON CIRCLE.
AND WHAT ALTERNATIVE USE IS FOR THAT FACILITY MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO THESE ARE THE FOUR OPTIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO WALK THROUGH.
UM, AND THEN I'LL JUMP INTO OPTION ONE.
SO OPTION ONE IS TO RESUME FULL SERVICE OPERATIONS.
UH, THIS WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY RETURNING BACK TO THE STYLE OF OPERATIONS THAT WE DID PRIOR TO THE TEMPORARY CLOSURE.
THIS WOULD BE OPERATING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK RETURNING TO EIGHT FULL TIME STAFF RENEWING A PARTNERSHIP, THE OFFER IN HOUSE CATERING AND AUDIO VISUAL SERVICES.
UNDER THIS PLAN, WE BEGAN HIRING IN OCTOBER WITH THE PLAN TO OPEN THE FACILITY TO THE PUBLIC IN JANUARY AND SLOWLY RAMP UP THE BOOKING.
SO WE WOULD ANTICIPATE NO BOOKINGS IN THE FIRST QUARTER BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T LIVE UNTIL JANUARY.
AND THEN A SLOW LEVEL OF BOOKINGS IN THE SECOND QUARTER ARE SLOWLY BUILDING UP TO A MORE STANDARD LEVEL OF BOOKINGS BY THE FOURTH QUARTER, WITH THAT IN MIND, UM, THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE EXPENSES BECAUSE YOU'RE 22 AND 24, YOU'RE SHOWN THE REASON THAT ESTIMATED DEFICIT WITH DECREASE IN 23 IS BECAUSE WE WOULD HAVE A FULL YEAR OF OPERATIONS.
WHEREAS IN THE FIRST YEAR WE WOULDN'T OPEN UNTIL JANUARY
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AND WE WOULD LOSE SOME TIME AND WOULD NEED SOME TIME TO BUILD OUR CUSTOMER BASE BACK UP.UH, ONCE WE GET TO FISCAL YEAR 20, 23, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THE, UH, ESTIMATED DEFICIT TO BE FAIRLY SIMILAR TO THAT ON AN ONGOING BASIS.
AND THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT OUR PAST EPISODES HAVE BEEN.
THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE BUDGET.
SO THERE IS THE OPPORTUNITY WITH SOME CHANGES TO FACE STRUCTURE, DIFFERENT MARKETING, TO MAKE CHANGES THAT COULD POSSIBLY REDUCE THIS DENSE SO THIS SHOWS A FIVE-YEAR PROJECTION THAT WAS PUT TOGETHER BY OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR FOR THE HOTEL FUND, ALL ITEMS ON THIS REMAIN STATIC WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES OF THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER.
SO THIS IS JUST TO SHOW THE IMPACT OF THESE VARIOUS SCENARIOS ON THE HOTEL FUND, THE OPERATIONS AS A WHOLE.
AND SO STARTING WITH THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR, FISCAL YEAR, 2022 PLUGGING IN THE FIGURES THAT I HAD ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE WOULD LOOK AT AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY $384,000 OR 6.1% MOVING FORWARD FROM THERE USING THE BUDGETED NUMBERS ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, WE ACTUALLY MOVED INTO A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE THE NEXT YEAR.
AND FOR SUBSEQUENT YEARS, ASSUMING ALL OTHER THINGS ARE HELD STATIC.
OPTION TWO IS TO RESUME SERVICE, BUT IT IS A LIMITED SERVICE OPERATION.
WHAT I MEAN BY LIMITED SERVICE IS THAT RATHER THAN AN OPERATING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, THE FACILITY WOULD OPERATE SIX DAYS A WEEK AS THEY SHOWED ON THE PRIOR SLIDE.
SUNDAY IS THE LEAST UTILIZED DAY AT THE CONFERENCE CENTER, HISTORICALLY RANGING FROM THREE TO 5% THE USE.
AND WE DO HAVE THE RICHARDSON CIVIC CENTER WHEN IT WAS OPERATING, WAS ALSO CLOSED ON SUNDAYS.
SO THERE WAS A PRECEDENT IN OUR AREA FOR MUNICIPALLY RUN EVENT FACILITIES THAT DO NOT OPERATE ON A SUNDAY.
WE WOULD ALSO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF FULL-TIME STAFF LOOK WITHIN PART B POSSIBLE BY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF DAYS OF OPERATIONS, UH, AS WELL AS OUTSOURCING CERTAIN THINGS SUCH AS THE CATERING AND THE AUDIO VISUAL SERVICES, WHICH REDUCES OUR OVERHEAD BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T NEED THE STAFFING TO SUPPORT THOSE SERVICES BY MAKING THESE CHANGES AND FOLLOWING THE SAME PLAN OF HIRING AN OCTOBER OPENING IN JANUARY AND SLOWLY BUILDING UP OUR BUSINESS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE ESTIMATED DEFICIT IS LOWER THAN AN OPTION ONE.
AND THAT ONCE WE GET TO FISCAL YEAR 2023, WE WOULD EXPECT IT TO HOLD AT APPROXIMATELY $250,000 DEFICIT.
AGAIN, WITH FLEXIBILITY THERE, DEPENDING ON MARKETING ADJUSTMENTS TO FEES, ALL OF THESE ESTIMATES ARE BASED ON THE EXISTING FEE STRUCTURE AT THE FACILITY, JASMINE.
SO, UM, WHEN YOU SAY OUTSOURCE TUTORING, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE OR YOU OR SO WE, WE HAVE HAD AN OUTSIDE CATERER THAT ESSENTIALLY TOOK UP RESIDENCE INSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND SO THERE ARE CERTAIN, CERTAIN EXPENSES TO THAT FACILITY FOR THAT, AS OPPOSED TO A CATERER WHO ONLY COMES IN WHEN THERE'S A BOOKING AND NEEDS TO BE IN THE MIX.
SO THIS IS THE FIVE-YEAR PROJECTION FOR THE HOTEL FUND.
AGAIN, ALL FIGURES HOLD STEADY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER, REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE UNDER THIS, BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A DECREASE DEFICIT, THE IMPACT TO THE HOTEL FUND, THAT IS A LESSON.
UM, HOWEVER, UNDER THE CURRENT PROJECTIONS, WE DO END UP WITH A NEGATIVE FUND BALANCE AND FISCAL YEAR 24 UNDER THESE OPTIONS, THREE IS TO EXTEND THE CURRENT TEMPORARY CLOSURE ONE MORE YEAR.
UM, THIS WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE DECIDING TO PUT, PAUSE THINGS, TO CONTINUE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, KEEPING THE FACILITY CLOSE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT AVAILABLE FOR INTERNAL USE FOR ANOTHER YEAR, AND THEN REEVALUATING DURING NEXT YEAR'S BUDGETING PROCESS.
UH, IF THIS OPTION WERE TO BE CHOSEN, IT WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE HOTEL FUNDS TO RECOVER.
SO A LOT ALLOW THE HOTELS OCCUPANCY TAX TO INCREASE AND THEN REEVALUATE THE SITUATION AND WHAT THE FUTURE IMPACT WOULD BE ON THE HOTEL FUND.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IF WE WERE TO TAKE THAT OPTION, WE WOULD HAVE A BUDGET OF APPROXIMATELY $200,000 TO COVER THE EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH UTILITIES MAINTENANCE AND JUST THE DAY-TO-DAY, UM, ONGOING OPERATION OF THE FACILITY, EVEN FOR INTERNALLY.
AND SO THIS IS HOW THAT OPTION WOULD IMPACT THE HOTEL FUND.
IT DOES HAVE A DECREASED IMPACT ON THE HOTEL FUND AND UNDER THIS SCENARIO, WE WOULD BE, AND I WILL SAY, UNDER THIS SCENARIO, THIS ACTUALLY PROJECTS NOT REOPENING ACROSS THE WHOLE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
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IS AS I BUDGETED, UM, APPROXIMATELY $200,000 DEFICIT, BUT THIS CONTINUES THAT FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION.SO IF THE FACILITY DIDN'T REOPEN IT, WASN'T REPURPOSED IN ANY WAY.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, REQUIRING ANY FUND BALANCE THAT'S SHOWN HERE REQUIRED ENDING FUND BALANCE AT THE BOTTOM IN RED? YEAH, SO AS PER OUR POLICY FINANCIAL POLICIES, UH, IT REALLY FOCUSES ON THE GENERAL FUND, BUT WE'VE APPLIED IT TO OUR OTHER FUNDS AS WELL.
AND THAT IS THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN A MINIMUM OF 25% OF OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES AS A FUND BALANCE.
THE GOAL FOR COUNCIL THAT IS NOT PART OF THE POLICY, BUT IT'S JUST THE STATE OF GOAL IS TO ACTUALLY HAVE A 30% NUMBER.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE FOCUSED REALLY ON THAT, THAT THAT POLICY IS FOCUSED REALLY ON THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IT HAS BEEN APPLIED THROUGH OTHER FUNDS AS WELL.
AND WE FOLLOW THAT SAME POLICY.
SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS YOU'VE GOT A, UM, AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF 27.1% AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR, 2021 OF, UH, EXPENDITURES BUDGETED EXPENDITURES FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, AS I SAID, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE IN 20 FISCAL YEARS, 22, 23.4, HOW THAT CHANGES OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
RICOTTA REVENUE AND PRIOR, FULL YEAR, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
NORMALLY DO YOU, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT YOUR FOUR OUT OF 5.2 MILLION, OUR TOTAL REVENUES.
I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE'RE IN THE 7 MILLION NUMBER NEIGHBORHOOD OF $7 MILLION.
I THINK OUR, OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX PREP TAX REVENUES WERE, UH, CLOSE TO.
IT WAS IN THE $5 MILLION RANGE, BUT IT WAS CLOSER TO SIX IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
AND THEN OTHER ENEMIES ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, SO OUT FOUR YEARS, WE'RE STILL PROJECTING DEATH AND BELOW OR OLD POT TAX REVENUE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN AT OUR OLD RATES, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KEPT THE, HOW WE WERE AT OUR OLD RATES.
WE WOULD BE, WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO BREAK EVEN ONE IN FIVE.
WE'RE BREAKING EVEN WHERE ONE OF THE THINGS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL SEE, WE'VE GOT TRANSFER OUTS FROM THE HOTEL FUNDS TO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FUND FOR TOURISM OF FUNDING PURPOSES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF WE'RE GETTING CLOSE, WE WILL, WE WOULD ADJUST SOMETHING.
THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING WE WOULD ADJUST.
SO THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, UH, DECREASING OUR FUND BALANCE AND MAINTAINING IT AT THE LEVEL WE NEED.
SO THESE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE OUT HERE IN FRONT OF US, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO CONTINUE ON FOR THREE YEARS.
WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THEM.
WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR 2022, UM, OPTION FOUR WOULD BE TO REPURPOSE THAT FACILITY ENTIRELY.
THIS WOULD BE IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO DETERMINE THAT IT NO LONGER WANTED TO BE IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER FACILITY, RENTAL BUSINESS, UM, WE LIVE DIRECT STAFF TO DO RESEARCH AND LOOK INTO ALTERNATE USES FOR THAT FACILITY.
THERE'S NO PROJECTED BUDGET HERE BECAUSE THAT WOULD DEPEND ON THE NATURE OF WHAT TYPE OF ALTERNATE USES WERE PROPONENTS.
SO WELL, QUESTIONS ARE CERTAINLY WELCOMED.
I THINK IF YOU DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, LIKE WHAT, SO WHEN YOU READ WHAT A STAFF RECOMMEND, I MEAN, I'D BE A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED, BUT WE, I, I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION, UH, AT THIS POINT, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IT.
NOW, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR IT.
UH, MY RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO, UH, PURSUE OPTION THREE.
AND THAT IS TO EXTEND THE TEMPORARY CLOSURE OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER.
THE REASON IS, IS BECAUSE UNTIL OUR HOP REVENUES RECOVER, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE A DECREASE IN REVENUE, UM, OR, OR RELATIVE DECREASE IN REVENUE, MEANING COMPARED TO WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE ACCUSTOMED TO PRE COVID.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IN, IN MY MIND, THE MOST IMPORTANT ACTIVITY IN OUR HOTEL FUND HAS TO DO WITH OUR SPECIAL EVENTS.
SO IF WE WANTED TO CHOOSE BETWEEN OPERATING A CONFERENCE CENTER OR HAVING SPECIAL EVENTS THAT DRIVES ADDITIONAL REVENUES TO OUR, OUR COMMUNITY, I WOULD SAY LET'S FOCUS ON THE SPECIAL EVENTS
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AND PROTECT THOSE FIRST.THE OTHER THING IS, IS UNTIL THE HOTEL, THE HOTEL REVENUES RETURN, UH, IT'S BENEFICIAL IN, AT LEAST IN MY MIND THAT WE DRIVE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO UTILIZE MEETING SPACE TO THOSE PRIVATE, UH, OPTIONS, BECAUSE NOT ONLY WILL THEY BENEFIT IN THAT WILL BENEFIT, THAT WILL BE POSITIVE FOR THE PRIVATE BUSINESS, BUT WE THEN INDIRECTLY BENEFIT BECAUSE OF THEIR BENEFIT.
IF THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BECAUSE THEY'RE BRINGING IN REVENUE, WE GET A CUT OF THAT THROUGH THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX AND IN SALES TAXES THAT THEY DEVELOPED.
SO, UH, FOR THOSE TWO MAIN REASONS, I THINK GIVING THE OTHER, UH, UH, THE, PROTECTING OUR, OUR, OUR SPECIAL EVENTS AND ALLOWING THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO ITSELF, WHICH IS REALLY THE ENGINE OF THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT WOULD BE THE REASONS WHY OPTION NUMBER THREE, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT IS, IS, UH, VIABLE OR, OR THE, THE, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION.
I WOULD MAKE UNDERSTANDING THAT A COUPLE OF THINGS, WE WILL STILL HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE MANAGE THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FUND HOTEL FUND.
AND THAT WILL BE PART OF WHAT WE DO IN THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND BEYOND FRANKLY, UH, WE DO KNOW THAT, UH, WE'VE BEEN ALLOCATED, UH, FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT WE'RE NOT SURE QUITE YET WHEN WE'LL RECEIVE, BUT WE DO HAVE, UH, THAT IT'S ONE OF ITS MAIN PURPOSES IS TO, UM, TO REPLACE LOST REVENUES.
AND SO IF WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO FURTHER, UH, AUGMENT THE HOTEL HOTEL FUND, EXCUSE ME, THAT IS A PRIME, UH, RESOURCE THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO US TO DO THAT.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS AS JASMINE WAS STOCKING, SHE TALKED ABOUT, UM, UH, OPERATING AT A LOSS.
AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR THAT WE OPERATE A LOSS BECAUSE OUR COST, OUR COST RECOVERY STRATEGY HAS BEEN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A, UH, AN AMENITY THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO INVEST A PORTION OF OUR HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX IN PROVIDING THAT AMENITY TO THE PRIVATE BUSINESSES AND TO HOTELS, UH, AS WELL, UH, SO THAT PRIVATE AND EXCUSE ME, THAT, UH, THAT, THAT LOSS, THAT OPERATING LOSS IS COVERED.
UH, AS I MENTIONED BY THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE HOTEL FUNDAMENTAL, WE CAN HAVE THAT RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO US.
THEN AGAIN, I WOULD SAY, UM, JUST AVOIDING THE OPERATING LOSS AND REALLY TRYING TO, UM, KEEP OUR POWDER DRY AND, AND REALLY FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON WHAT WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE.
AND THAT IS IN MY OPINION, THE SPECIAL EVENTS, UH, THAT'S THE REASON BEHIND THE REC THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE KNOW, UM, DO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF THE IMPACT TO SAY THE LOCAL SURROUNDING RESTAURANTS, UM, AT WHAT, WHERE I'M GETTING AT IS BY CLOSING IT OFF TO THE PUBLIC? UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THE IMPACT IS TO THE LOCAL LOCAL RESTAURANTS.
I MEAN, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH BUSINESS WERE THEY GETTING FROM, YOU KNOW, FALLOUT FROM THE EVENTS HAPPENING THERE? I DON'T KNOW, OR IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SMALL CONFERENCE TYPE EVENTS, I, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
WE HAVEN'T CONDUCTED AS TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AN ECONOMIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
UH, SO I KNOW THERE IS AN IMPACT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY, UM, NOT AS GREAT AS THE PANDEMIC, UH, WAS.
SO, UM, ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO, TO, UM, UH, TO FOCUS THE ACTIVITY IN THE PRIVATE PART OF THE ECONOMY SO THAT THEY CAN BENEFIT, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER OTHER WAYS TO, TO, TO, TO MANAGE, UH, THE RESOURCES THAT WE RECEIVE.
UM, BUT REALLY TRYING TO PUSH EVERYBODY TO THE PRIVATE SIDE.
UH, WE SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY DO WE AVOID A COST, BUT THEN WE ALSO, UH, WE, WE, WE HELP THEM, BUT THEN WE ALSO WILL BENEFIT FROM THEIR, THEIR, UH, PROSPERITY AS WELL.
AND THAT ASSUMES THAT IF WE CAN CONVERT A GOOD PORTION OF THOSE BOOKINGS TO THE RENAISSANCE OR CERTAIN YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD BE EXACTLY THAT WOULD, OR, OR, UM, OTHER, OTHER, UH, RESTAURANTS OR OTHER VENUES IN TOWN.
SO IF THEY'RE NOT MEETING, I MEAN, IT'S, I GUESS IT'S HARDER TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE GREAT BREAK BREAKOUT SPACE ANYWAY.
SO A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT ARE DONE IN OUR, UM, IN OUR CONFERENCE CENTER OR OUR, THERE ARE EITHER, UH, SMALL, IF THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOME KIND OF A BREAKOUT THING.
UH, SO THAT COULD BE ACCOMMODATED IN OTHER PLACES IN ADDISON, OR MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE A LARGER
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LUNCH IN AKIN TO OUR, UM, OUR QUARTERLY, UH, UH, SORRY, NOT OUR ECONOMIC, BUT OUR QUARTERLY, UH, EMPLOYEE, UH, LUNCHES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.AND SO, UM, YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, LOOKING FOR AN EXACT FIGURE BEDTIME.
I JUST, I DON'T REMEMBER YOU, YOU SHARED SOME NUMBER, LIKE THE CONFERENCE CENTER HAD BEEN USED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DAYS OVER THE YEAR, AND I JUST KINDA TO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE COVID, AND I WONDER TO SAY THAT WAS LIKE 275 DAYS A YEAR.
DO YOU REMEMBER SOME OF THOSE BOOKINGS MAY HAVE BEEN SO SHORT, THEY WERE THREE HOURS AND OTHERS MAY HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE THINGS.
WAS THERE A REASON THAT I'M MISSING THAT WE CAN'T DO OPTION THREE AND FOUR SIMULTANEOUSLY? UH, THERE'S NOT, EXCEPT IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK TO DO THREE OR EXCUSE ME, IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK AND BE IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER BUSINESS, THEN YOU DON'T WANT TO DO NUMBER FOUR AND KIND OF WRITE, WRITE THAT OFF.
SO I'M NOT, UM, UM, MAYBE I'M MISUNDERSTANDING OPTION FOUR.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS, UH, WHY WE HAVE THE SHUTTER.
IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO SEE IF, UM, GIVEN THE AGE AND THE DESIGN AND ALL THE, ALL THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH THIS FACILITY THAT, UH, THAT WE DO LOOK INTO ALTERNATIVES AND, YOU KNOW, DO WE NOT DO, WOULD THERE BE A COMPELLING REASON NOT TO DO THAT? YEAH.
THE COMPELLING REASON IS, IS IF WE WANT TO STAY IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER BUSINESS, THEN WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GO.
WE DON'T WANT TO PURSUE SOMETHING TO TAKE THIS, TAKE THIS AWAY FROM THAT.
CAUSE I DON'T OPTION FOUR IS OKAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER BUSINESS ANYMORE.
LET'S GO FIND ANOTHER USE FOR THIS, THIS FACILITY.
WELL, IT COULD BE A BIGGER, I MEAN, DID YOU HAVE, WELL, I MEAN IT'S, CAN WE NOT STICK OUR TOE IN THE WATER AND SEE, YOU KNOW, AND NOT EVEN SURE HOW YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT IT JUST ENCOURAGED ME.
IF YOU HAVE A BUILDING OVER THERE AND IT'S CONFIGURED LIKE IT IS, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS AND WE'RE REACHING OUT TO WHOMEVER, WE WERE REACHING OUT TO, TO SEE WHAT'S WHAT THE MARKET IS.
AND MAYBE WE FIND SOMETHING THAT SEEMS REALLY WHIZZBANG, OR MAYBE WE, WE DON'T, AND IT CONFIRMS A, A DIRECTION THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS IT'S IT'S REALLY NEEDED OR THERE'S NO REAL ALTERNATIVE USES FOR THAT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, I, I, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS LIKE, BUT LET'S KIND OF JUST FIGURE THIS, FIGURE SOMETHING OUT.
NO, I I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE MIGHT DO A LITTLE INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT, WHAT POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES MIGHT, MIGHT BE, BUT WHAT ARE WE INVESTIGATING? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE MANAGEMENT OF THIS FACILITY? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, I REALLY DON'T KNOW THIS.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING IF WE CAN'T DO SOME INVESTIGATION WHILE WE HAVE THIS, WHILE WE HAVE THIS FACILITY SHUTTING LIKE THIS FROM THE NEXT YEAH.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
WHAT I WOULD SAY IS, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE WISE TO GO TELL COUNCIL, EXCUSE ME, THE STAFF, UH, GO, GO, FIND SOMETHING.
GO BUY, GO FIND SOMETHING TO DO.
AND, AND MAYBE YOU WILL KNOW WHAT IT IS.
THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A, WELL SUPPOSE WE DECIDED TO DO OPTION FOUR AND WE WOULD SAY, WE'RE GOING TO REPURPOSE IT.
WE'RE GOING TO GO TELL YOU, GO FIND SOMETHING.
WELL, THEN, THEN WE KNOW WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THE CONFERENCE CENTER BUSINESS.
IT SO, SO, UM, I, IF THE COUNCIL SAID, IF THE COUNCIL SAID WE NO LONGER WANT TO BE IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER BUSINESS, OKAY.
GO FIND US SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.
BUT IF THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THE COUNCIL STILL WANTS TO HAVE A CONFERENCE CENTER AND BE IN THE COUNCIL, THEN IN THE CONFERENCE CENTER BUSINESS, THEN I WOULD SAY, DON'T, DON'T GO DOWN THAT ROAD YET BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AT BEST YOU'RE GOING TO KIND OF BE, YOU KNOW, ON A, ON A, ON A BIT OF A TREASURE HUNT AND WHO KNOWS WHAT WE'LL FIND.
AND IF YOU DO FIND SOMETHING AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, PEOPLE SAY, YEAH, WE REALLY WANT TO KEEP THE CONFERENCE CENTER BUSINESS.
THEN YOU'RE KIND OF STARTING AND STOPPING.
AND I THINK IT'S A, UM, UH, AND THEN PRODUCTIVE ACTIVITY.
I WOULD SUGGEST, I WOULD SUGGEST THIS UNDERSTAND SIS AS A CONFERENCE CENTER BILL, UNTIL NOW IT NEVER BROUGHT ME PERFECT.
YOU KNOW, AND WE SUBSIDIZED THAT TO A HOTEL FARM, UH, GREENWOOD
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WEST, JUST TEMPORARY CROWS FLOOD ANOTHER YEAR.BUT IF WE NEED TO COME BACK TO TALK ABOUT IT, WHETHER WE WANT TO CONTINUE DOING THE BUSINESS IS ALWAYS LOSING MONEY.
SO YOU'RE HIRED A FULL TIME STAFF.
THEN THE CONSTANT MAINTENANCE IS BIG.
YOU KNOW, ORIGINAL INTENT IS HOPING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE CAN PROMOTE THE SEAT TOURISM.
WE CAN PROMOTE ALL KINDS OF STUFF THAT END UP WITHOUT COMPETING WITH THE LOCAL BUSINESSES.
WE'RE COMPETING WITH THE HOTELS.
FIRST OF ALL, THEN WE BUILD THE JAVION CIVIL PARK WHERE BRED FUEL USAGE.
AND IT'S BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT WEDDING COMPETING WITH HOTELS.
THEN YOU ARE NOT COMPETING WITH THEM AND YOU CAN NEVER REALLY MAKE PROFITS.
SO EVEN THOUGH I UNDERSTAND WE ARE, AS, AS A CITY, WE, WE DON'T PURSUE MAKING PROFIT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, YOU DON'T WANT TO ALWAYS BE LOSING MONEY.
SO YOU HAVE TO TREAT THIS KIND OF BUSINESS LIKE A BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, THEN OTHERWISE IT MAKE SENSE FOR YOUR SUSTAINING BUSINESS.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY, BUT I'M SUPPORTING A COLD, TEMPORARY CLOSE AS A CONFERENCE CENTER FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
SO UNTIL HOTELS IS DOING BETTER, THEN WE LOOK AT THIS ISSUE MORE SERIOUSLY, MAYOR.
I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF OPTION THREE.
I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO EXTEND THE TEMPORARY CLOSURE.
W WE CAN STILL REEVALUATE THIS AND WE WOULDN'T BE TAKING THE, UH, UM, WHAT COULD BE CONSIDERED DRASTIC FOR OPTION FOUR.
UH, PUT THE FLAG OUT THERE AND SAID, HEY, WE'RE NOT IN THIS BUSINESS, BUT WE RESERVE THAT, THAT OPPORTUNITY STILL WITHOUT SHUTTING THAT DOOR.
I WOULD, I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE EXPERIENCED A BIG HIT WITH COVID AND, AND I, I BELIEVE IN A LOT OF SECTORS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE A BIG, BIG, BIG REBOUND WHERE WE'VE BEEN HIT THE WORST, BUT, UH, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO OVERREACT RIGHT NOW AND, AND, UH, THE PARTY FROM THE CONFERENCE CENTER AND MAYBE FURTHER THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HEAD DOWN THE ROAD WITH THE THEATER CENTER AND SO FORTH IS, UH, NOT, NOT WHERE I'M GOING RIGHT NOW.
SO I'M, I LIKE THE THOUGHT OF OPTION TO RESUMING WITH LIMITED, LIMITED EXPENSES AND STARTING TO GET BACK ON TRACK.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, UM, WITH, IF WE GO DOWN THAT PATH, I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THE, UH, HOTEL FUND, UH, DEDUCTION DECISION ITEMS THAT, UH, THAT STAFF BROUGHT TO US, I THINK ROUGHLY FOUR MONTHS AGO, UH, I THINK, UH, EACH COUNCIL CAN EXPRESS YOUR OWN OPINION.
SO AT LEAST STEPH HAS A DIRECTION.
SO, SO FAR CHICO, WE ARE SUPPORTING, WE ARE SUPPORTING TEMPORARY KOSHER FOR THE COMING YEAR.
THEN PAUL IS SUGGESTING LIMITED SERVICES.
SO EACH ONE OF YOU WOULD JUST EXPRESS YOUR UP.
I'M, I'M IN FAVOR OF EXTENDING THE TEMPORARY CLOSURE.
I JUST THINK IT'S THE BEST BUSINESS DECISION.
I THINK, UM, OPTION TWO, UM, WE'RE JUST NOT READY TO DO THAT YET.
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE DOLLARS AND CENTS.
I DO UNDERSTAND PAUL'S, UM, IMAGINATION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'VE THOUGHT TOO ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT HYBRID SITUATION OR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THESE THINGS THAT CAN POTENTIALLY COME OF IT.
BUT IF WE GO DOWN THAT ROAD, THEN IT'S FEW TILE.
IF THAT'S NOT THE DIRECTION WE'RE GROWING, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT COTTON BELT DEVELOPMENT AND ALL OF THAT, AND WHAT IS THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND BRING AND CHANGE THE DYNAMICS.
SO I KEEP LANDING BACK ON THE TEMPORARY CLOSURE, AND THEN RE-EXAMINE, ESPECIALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE, UH, THE, THE HOT, HOT SHELTERS THAT RESTART.
CAUSE IT LOOKS, I THINK WE ARE GONNA RE I MEAN, IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REBOUND, UM, MAYBE MAYBE BETTER THAN WE HOPED, BUT WE DON'T KNOW YET.
THAT'S KIND OF, THAT'S WHERE I'M LIKE OPTION THREE.
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IS THE BEST FORCE RIGHT NOW.I ASKED WESTFIELD BAY ABOUT SOMETHING ABOUT WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO HELP THE HOTELS.
AND I KNOW THE FULL-SERVICE ONES HAVE GOT FACILITIES.
I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY TO TAKE OPTION THREE, BUT I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THIS, WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE, BUT ALLOW POSSIBLY IF SOMEONE LIKE ANOTHER HOTEL DOESN'T HAVE THAT MODERN MEETING SPACE TO BE ABLE TO LEASE IT FROM US, THE HOTEL TO DO IT AND MANAGE IT FOR AN EVENT SINCE WE'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THE MAINTENANCE ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S EVEN FEASIBLE, BUT THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, JUST TO TRY TO HELP SOME OF THE SMALLER HOTELS AS WELL.
SO YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY COMPETING AGAINST THE BIG GUYS, BUT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME EXTRA BUSINESS THAT WAY.
AND AS FAR AS OPTIONS FOR THOSE, YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT ON COTTON BELT, ON AN OPENING, YOU MISSED LIKE, THROW IT OUT THERE AND SAY, HEY, THIS MIGHT BE IN THE MIX FOR SOMETHING.
WHEN, WHEN THAT DEVELOPER, WHEN WE GO TO NEGOTIATIONS WITH WHOEVER WE ENDED UP DOING ON THE COTTON BELT AND THAT'S MORE LAND THAN WE OWN, MAYBE IT'S A, MAYBE THEY WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING OVER THERE THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND IT GIVE US A PARKING GARAGE.
I MEAN, IT'S TWO ACRES AWAY AND GO OVER THERE.
WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE IMPACT TO THE FESTIVALS, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, HOW WE USE THE CONFERENCE CENTER DURING FESTIVALS IS INTEGRAL.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING IN MY MIND THAT, THAT, UM, ANYWAY, BUT YEAH, I SEE.
BUT YEAH, I LIKED THIS IDEA OF, UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF A LAG HOTEL TO LEASE IT TO, TO LEASE IT DURING THIS PERIOD.
BUT THAT MIGHT BE TOO CREATIVE.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO BUSINESS WITH LIMITED STAFF.
YOU KNOW, I'M PARTIAL OPEN, DO THIS, DO THAT.
I BELIEVE IN WHY NOT A LOT OF THE RESTAURANTS INCURRED THE SAME THING BECAUSE I FEEL WAY TO STAFF, INCLUDING MINE.
SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO RUN THAT KIND OF BUSINESS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL STAFF, YOU WANT TO DO THIS, YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
YOU ARE MORE, YOU ARE HAPPIER TO PROMOTE, RIGHT? WHEN YOU HAVE LIMITED STAFF, HOW YOU PROMOTE, RIGHT.
IT'S OF KIND OF A CONTRADICTORY IN THE DILEMMA WE SEE.
SO I THINK TEMPORARY CLOSURE IS BETTER.
I MEAN, IT'S MORE BENEFICIAL AND ALSO INCURRED, RELEASED EXPENDITURES.
I AGREE WITH MOST DBT, THAT OPTION THREE IS THE WAY TO GO.
UM, AND UNTIL WE GET BACK UP, UM, I DO AGREE WITH PAUL, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO FIND OUT WHAT THOSE OPTIONS COULD BE.
NOT THAT WE WOULD WANT TO DO THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS STAFF IS DOING THEIR THING, NOT TO PUT ANY TIME INTO IT, BUT IF THEY SEE SOMETHING INTERESTING, IF THEY COULD BRING IT TO WEST, THAT YOU COULD LET US KNOW.
UM, BUT SINCE I'M NEW, THIS IS IT'S A LITTLE BIT HEARTENING TO ME TO SEE HOW MUCH MONEY IT LOSES EVERY YEAR THAT HAD AN OLD WAY OF KNOWING THAT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE DISCONCERTING.
I KNOW, I KNOW IT'S DISCONCERTING TO SEE THE NUMBERS AND IT'S ALL A SURPRISE TO ME.
SO OPTION THREE IS THE WAY TO GO EXTENDING TEMPORARY CLOSURE.
BUT I AM INTERESTED IN WHAT'S MARSH IN THE FUTURE, BUT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THINK ABOUT TASTE STATUS, THE CONFERENCE CENTER.
I MEAN, PEOPLE, SHELL, BLADDER, IT'D BE INTERESTING IF WE COULD SHARE THIS STUFF WITH THE FUTURE DEVELOPER.
YEAH, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO,
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL HAVE A CONSENSUS, SO STEPH CAN HAVE DIRECTION.
I THINK WE, I MEAN, I ALSO THINK THAT WE CAN DO IN THE BEGINNING, I HAD A SIMILAR THOUGHT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK INTO IT, THEN YOU'LL STILL NEED TO HAVE STAFF.
THE MAJOR EXPENSES IS DEFINITELY EIGHT FULL TIME EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, SO YOU'RE NOT DOING IT TO GET AWAY FROM THAT.
AND ALSO WHEN YOU WANT TO DO, LIKE BONNIE SAID, THEY MADE A DISSERVICE, THEN YOU'LL STILL NEED THE STAFF.
MAYBE JUST A LITTLE FEWER, BUT YEAH, BUT, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP SO MUCH IF WE KEEP IT AND WE COME BACK ONLINE, WE MAY END UP DOING JUST TO, WHAT'S A BETTER SITUATION.
IN THE MEANTIME, YOU'LL BUY YOURSELF
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SOME TIME, SEE HOW FAST THE HOTEL CAN COME BACK TO THEIR REGULAR NORMAL BUSINESSES.AND, UH, AT LEAST I NEEDED MY SHARE.
I MEAN, TO A BOOK, TO A BIG PARTY FOR THE COMING YEAR, YOU KNOW, BLIND BEFORE A THOUSAND PEOPLE AT THE RENAISSANCE, THE OTHERS FOR 400 PEOPLE.
SO I HOPE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, DO YOU ALL OR HELP YOU PROMOTE YOUR LOCAL HOTELS? THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
BUT FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU MENTIONED, I THINK IF WE DO LAND BACK ON OPTION THREE, IT'S THE BEST BUSINESS DECISION.
BUT YOU KNOW HOW WE ARE IS WE WANT IT ALL.
AND SO I SOMETIMES KEEP GOING BACK TO, I WANT IT ALL, BUT I THINK WE JUST HAVE TO LAND ON OPTION THREE.
[2. Present and Discuss Proposed Updates to the Town of Addison Park and Recreation Ordinance.]
THE SECOND ITEM IN THAT WORK SESSION IT'S PRESENT DISCUSSED FOR BOTH UPDATES TO THE PALM EDISON PARK AND RECREATION AUDIENCES, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JANETTHIS PRESENTATION I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS, UM, ART PARK ORDINANCES IN OUR CITY ORDINANCES CHAPTER 58 OF THE PARK AND RECREATION ORDINANCE, UM, DOES NOT, I'M HERE SPECIFICALLY TO TALK ABOUT HOW OUR CAR COORDINATES RELATES TO GROUP GALLERIES.
UM, IN CHAPTER 58, THE PARK PARKING REC ORDINANCE, IT DOES NOT ADDRESS GROUP GATHERINGS IN PUBLIC PARKS, EXCEPT FOR IT DOES SET SOME MENTAL EXPECTATIONS FOR LAYLA PAVILION AND THE OUTDOOR AREA AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, THE POOL AREA.
UM, AND THEN IN CHAPTER 67 OR SPECIAL EVENT ORDINANCE, IT DOES GET INTO GROUP GATHERINGS.
IT DEFINES, UM, WHERE GROUP GATHERINGS CAN OCCUR AND AT WHAT NUMBER OF GROUP, WHAT SIZE OF A GROUP REQUIRES A SPECIAL PERMIT.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU READ THROUGH ALL OF THAT, WHAT YOU ULTIMATELY DISCERN IS THAT OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES DO NOT PRECLUDE GROUP GATHERINGS UNDER 1500 PEOPLE FROM OCCURRING IN ADDISON PARKS.
AND AS A RESULT OF THIS ISSUES WITH GROUP GATHERINGS, THERE IS SPECIFICALLY OUR URBAN AND NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, UM, ARE STARTING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE FREQUENT FREQUENT.
UM, I'M ALWAYS TELLING MY STAFF THAT THE PANDEMIC GAVE US A WHOLE NEW GROUP OF RAVING FANS FOR OUR PARK SYSTEM.
UM, BUT IT ALSO DID PUT NEW DEMANDS ON OUR PARK SYSTEM.
AND I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE DEMANDS IS THAT WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE COME OUT, HAVE GROUP GATHERINGS OUT DOORS, AND THEY'RE DOING IT AT FACILITIES, UM, THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY DESIGNED FOR THE SIZE OF GROUPS THAT ARE USING OUR PARKS AND IT'S CAUSING SOME ISSUES.
AND SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ARE RELATED TO PARKING CAPACITY.
WE'VE GOT PARKS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, UM, THAT HAVE VERY SMALL PARKING LOTS OR NO PARKING LOTS AT ALL.
UM, SO WE'VE SEEN SOME ISSUES WHERE STREETS HAVE BEEN BLOCKED OFF, UM, BY PEOPLE HOLDING A WEDDING, UM, AND HAVING THEIR GUESTS PARK ALONG OUR STREETS IN OUR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UM, GROUPS THAT HAVE HELD EVENTS IN PARKS, THEY'RE JUST POPPING UP AND KIND OF DOING THESE POPUP GATHERINGS.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN TELLING OUR RESIDENTS THAT THE PARK IS CLOSED AND IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO USE, UM, PARK GROUNDS AND AMENITIES HAVE BEEN DAMAGED FOR MISUSE.
UM, WE'VE FOUND THINGS FROM STEAKS PUNCHER IN OUR IRRIGATION LINES, AND HE'S ON SOME OF OUR SITE AMENITIES, UM, LANDSCAPE BEDS BEING TRAMPLED, ELECTRICAL PLUGS DAMAGED.
UM, ONE DAY WE WENT OUT TO THE GAZEBO AT WYNWOOD AND IT HAD RED WAX MELTED ALL OVER IT FROM CANDLES THAT HAD BEEN LEFT TO BURN.
UM, I, A RESIDENT SHARED A STORY WITH ME ABOUT A GROUP THAT CAME IN AND PLAYED SOCCER AT CELESTIAL AND BROUGHT IN HUGE WHITE TOWERS, UM, AND HAD SIG SIGNIFICANT SIZED CROWDS THAT CAUSED SOME DAMAGE TO THE TURF.
THE TURK WASN'T DESIGNED IN A WAY TO HANDLE THE CROWDS THAT WE HAVE AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
UM, SO THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE SEEING
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THAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR PARTS.UM, THIS HAS LED TO DEMANDS ON PARK STAFF.
WE'VE HAD TO DO INCREASED CLEANUP.
UM, AS FAR AS TRASH DEBRIS, MAKING REPAIRS START IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, REMOVING THINGS THAT WERE LEFT UP IN PLACE, TAKING SIGNS DOWN THAT WERE LEFT UP IN PLACE.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE SEE IS A LOT OF THINGS, EVENTS ARE HAPPENING ON WEEKENDS IN AN EVENING.
SO THEY'RE HAPPENING WHEN PARK STAFF ISN'T ON SITE, UM, AND SOMETIMES THINGS THAT WERE DAMAGED OR LEFT DAMAGED UNTIL WE GET THERE ON MONDAY.
UM, AND A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE NOT AWARE THAT THEY HAPPENED UNTIL WE FIND THE DAMAGE OR A RESIDENT CALLS AND TELLS US ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
UM, MANY OF THE GROUP GATHERINGS ARE NOT INITIATED BY ALISON RESIDENTS OR BUSINESSES.
UM, WE'VE LOOKED INTO SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT BEHIND AND DONE A LITTLE RESEARCH.
AND A LOT OF THEM ARE COMING FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ADDISON.
THEY'RE THERE OUTSIDE OF ADDISON.
AND THE CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE THE OUT OF SOME POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH THE NEEDS TO ADDRESS ISSUES RELATED TO GATHERINGS IN PARKS.
THE ONE THING THAT THEY CAN DO, UM, IS A LOT OF OUR PARKS ARE SIGNED VERY WELL AROUND THE PERIMETER THAT THERE'S NOT ONE STREET PARKING, SO THAT DOES PROVIDE THEM PRETTY CLEAR ENFORCEMENT, BUT IN REGARDS TO GATHERINGS HAPPENING IN PARKS, IT DOESN'T GIVE THEM CLEAR, UM, GROUNDS TO NOT ALLOW THE GATHERINGS TO HAPPEN.
ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE SEEING IS WE RECEIVE CALLS WEEKLY FROM RESIDENTS FROM BUSINESSES, AND SOME NON-RESIDENTS ASKING TO RESERVE PARK SPACES FOR SMALL GATHERING.
SO THERE'S A NEED THERE TOO, THAT WE AREN'T FILLING.
UM, ONE EXAMPLE I CAN SHARE WITH YOU IS
AND WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT HOW WE DON'T RESERVE THE PARK.
UM, BUT THEY CAN JUST SHOW UP, WELL, THEY FELT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE, ALTHOUGH WE WORKED WITH THEM AND THEY DID, BUT THEY FELT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE INVITING PEOPLE TO COME TO AN EVENT THAT THEY HADN'T RESERVED, BECAUSE WHAT IF THERE WAS ANOTHER GROUP THERE? SO IT CREATES SOME KIND OF UNKNOWNS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO USE OUR FACILITIES.
UM, WE DO A LOT OF TIMES TRY TO DIRECT THEM, SO THEY LOCKED PAVILION, BUT LIKE IN THE EXAMPLE OF AGAIN, THEY ATE AND WOULD MAKE SENSE THAT THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING CLOSER TO WHERE THE RESIDENTS ARE.
SO THAT'S THE OTHER CHALLENGE THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, IS THAT THERE'S A DEMAND THERE THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE AREN'T MEETING THE NEED TO, UM, FACILITATE THIS DISCUSSION.
I PUT TOGETHER THIS GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THE PARKS THAT WE HAVE IN ADDISON, HOW THEY'RE CATEGORIZED FROM OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN.
SO WE BREAK THEM INTO DESTINATION PARKS, COMMUNITY FACILITIES, URBAN PARKS, NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS IN GREENBELT TRAILS, DESTINATION PARKS, AND COMMUNITY FACILITIES.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING.
UM, THOSE EITHER HAVE THEIR OWN ESTABLISHED POLICIES, UM, OR SOON IN REGARDS TO DESTINATION PARKS, SPECIAL EVENTS, WE'LL BE COMING TO YOU WITH A DISCUSSION ABOUT UPDATING THEIR ORDINANCES.
SO THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT WILL HAPPEN LATER.
UM, GREENBELT TRAILS ARE REALLY NOT CONDUCIVE FOR GROUP GATHERINGS.
WE DON'T GET ANY CALLS OR COMPLAINTS ABOUT GROUP GATHERINGS HAPPENING IN THOSE AREAS.
SO WE REALLY WANT OUR, OUR DISCUSSION THIS EVENING TO FOCUS ON OUR URBAN PARKS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS.
AND THIS GIVES YOU AN OVERVIEW OF HOW THOSE PARKS ARE CLASSIFIED, WHICH PARKS ARE IN THAT CATEGORY, THE GENERAL SIZE OF THEM.
UM, AND IF THEY HAVE PARKING OR OKAY.
SO STAFF WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE, UM, THAT A PARK USE PERMIT BE DEVELOPED IN ORDER TO DEAL WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE SEE HAVE ARISEN.
UM, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE WOULD NEED TO IDENTIFY SOME INFORMATION SUCH AS WHO CAN APPLY FOR A PERMIT.
WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF USE? WHAT LOCATIONS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR PARK USE BY GROUPS? WHAT SIZE OF GROUP REQUIRES A PERMIT? WHAT ARE YOUR RULES FOR USE AND WHAT ARE THE RECOURSE? UM, WHAT IS THREE COURSES OF HOLES ARE BROKEN, UM, TO ANSWER, TO BEGIN, TO DEVELOP A FRAMEWORK, TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
WE REALLY LOOK TO THE POLICY THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, REALLY LUX PAVILION.
WE FELT LIKE THAT SET A PRETTY GOOD PRECEDENT FOR WHAT WE COULD DO FOR OTHER PARKS.
UM, SO WHO CAN APPLY FOR A PARKING PERMIT? STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING THAT IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO ADDISON RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES AND BUSINESS USE WOULD BE LIMITED TO SELECT LOCATIONS.
WHAT IS THE COST OF A PERMIT, UM, RESIDENTS CURRENTLY TO RESERVE THE PAVILION AT LAY LOGS PAY $150 REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT FOR A THREE HOUR LIMIT AND BUSINESSES ALSO PAY THAT DEPOSIT, BUT ALSO PAY $75
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FOR THE FIRST THREE HOURS AND THEN $25 AN HOUR THEREAFTER.UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT WE BEGIN TO CHARGE A MINIMAL CHARGE FOR THINGS THAT REQUIRE SOME SETUP ON OUR PART.
LIKE IF THERE'S A BOUNCE HOUSE THAT GOES UP, WE HAVE TO SEND STAFF OUT SOMETIMES ON WEEKENDS TO IDENTIFY UTILITY LINES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO WE'D LIKE TO RECOUP A LITTLE BIT OF OUR TIME OR THE COST THAT WE PAY FOR THOSE THINGS.
UM, THE HOURS OF USE, WE WOULD SUGGEST 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM.
THAT'S CURRENTLY THE HOURS THAT YOU CAN RESERVE MAALOX PAVILION.
AND THEN THE SIZE OF GROUP LAY WALKS CURRENTLY LIMITS THE SIZE TO 75.
UM, HOWEVER, WE WOULD LIKE TO SAY 20 TO 100 PEOPLE.
UM, EACH PARK IS A LITTLE UNIQUE AND WE'LL KIND OF GET INTO THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THESE NEXT STEPS, BUT IN GENERAL, ANYTHING THAT IS OVER 20 PEOPLE OR 20 PEOPLE AND UNDER A HUNDRED WOULD REQUIRE A PARK USE PERMIT TO HAVE A GATHERING.
SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN PLACE TOO.
SO PEOPLE WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TRIGGERS THE NEED FOR A PARK USE PERMIT.
UM, WHAT LOCATIONS ARE APPROPRIATE, UM, ALL GATHERINGS OF MORE THAN 20 PEOPLE WOULD REQUIRE.
SO THE APPLICATION OF A PARK USE PERMIT, BUT OUR DEPARTMENT WOULD CONSIDER ALL THE APPLICATIONS, ANALYZE CRITERIA TO DETERMINE IF THE PERMIT IS APPROVED OR NOT.
SO IT WAS REALLY, WE REALLY WANTED A BLANKET APPROACH.
AND THEN WHEN WE GOT IN AND LOOKED AT EACH PARK, IT WAS LIKE, WELL, YOU CAN'T REALLY DO THAT.
AND WE STARTED THINKING ABOUT EACH USE THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE, AND WE REALIZED IT'S MORE OF A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UM, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE WOULD ASK IS WE'RE ANALYZING THAT PERMIT IS WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF ATTENDEES THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
UM, WHAT LOCATION ARE THEY REQUESTING THE DATE, THE TIME, THE TYPE OF EVENT, UM, IF THEY HAVE PARKING NEEDS OR IF THEY HAD MADE ARRANGEMENTS FOR PARKING AND WHAT THEIR SET UP NEEDS WERE, UM, ISSUANCE APART PERMITS WE'RE SUGGESTING WOULD BE LIMITED TO PARKS CLASSIFIED AS URBAN PARTS.
SO OUR OBJECTIVE WOULD BE TO DIRECT EVERYBODY TO OUR URBAN PARKS THAT ARE MORE SET UP FOR THAT TYPE OF DENSITY HAPPENING IN PARKS.
UM, HOWEVER, WE WOULD ALLOW EXCEPTIONS FOR PARKS CLASSIFIED AS NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, FOR EXAMPLE, LES LOCKS, PARK PAVILION, OR A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK WHERE A SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING WAS BEING ORGANIZED, SUCH AS AN HOA, WANTED TO HAVE A MEETING, OR THEY WANTED TO HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD BLOCK PARTY.
THOSE ARE TYPES OF EVENTS THAT PEOPLE WOULD WALK FROM THEIR HOMES TO THE PARK, AND IT WOULD INVOLVE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO WE WOULD VIEW THOSE AS BEING AN EXCEPTION AND ALLOWING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IS WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.
UM, WHAT ARE THE ROLES OF RECORDERS? WHAT ARE THE RULES IN, UH, FOR USE AND THEN THE RECOURSE, IF THE RULES AREN'T FOLLOWED, UM, WE WOULD HOLD THE INDIVIDUAL THAT MAKES THE RESERVATION RESPONSIBLE FOR ASSUMING MY ABILITY OF ANY DAMAGES, UM, AND MAKE THEM AWARE OF THAT.
IF THE RULES ARE NOT FOLLOWED, THAT THEIR DEPOSIT WOULD BE FORFEITED.
UM, THE INDIVIDUAL MAKING THE RESERVATION WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHARING THE PARK AREAS LIKE CLEAN, CLEAR GLITTER DEBRIS AND CESSNOCK ITEMS, AND CLEAN UP MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN THE RESERVATION.
THE RESERVATION IS FOR A SPECIFIC AREA IN A PARK.
WE'D MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE PARK WAS TO REMAIN OPEN FOR USE FOR OTHER RESIDENTS.
UM, AND THE INDIVIDUAL UNDERSTANDS, WELL, THE INDIVIDUAL UNDERSTANDS THAT THE AREA WOULD BE OPEN FOR USE, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, IF THEY WERE GOING TO BRING THOSE INTO THE PARK WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL ON THEIR APPLICATION.
AND THAT'S BRINGING IN PORTABLE TABLES AND CHAIRS, MUSIC, ALCOHOL, PORTABLE RESTROOMS, BOUNCE HOUSES, GAMES, AND FOOD TRUCKS.
SO, UM, WE'RE NOT SAYING NO TO THOSE, BUT WE'RE SAYING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE WOULD ANALYZE AND SEE IF IT FIT THE PARK, IT COULD BE DONE WITHOUT BEING AN IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.
UM, SO TO JUST GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, WE REQUEST INPUT FROM YOU ON, UM, WHAT WE BELIEVE COULD BE A SOLUTION TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE SEEN A RISING WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR DISCUSSION.
UM, IF YOU'RE GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF GOING THIS DOWN THIS PATH, WE WOULD PREPARE AN UPDATE TO THE PARK AND RECREATION ORDINANCE THAT WE'D INCLUDE THIS INFORMATION IN IT.
UM, AND TO HELP FACILITATE THAT DISCUSSION, WE JUST PUT TOGETHER THIS CHART FOR YOU.
THAT'S JUST KIND OF A NUTSHELL OF WHAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
IT'S AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT PARK USE PERMIT WOULD LOOK LIKE AS PROPOSED COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, AND WE DO CHARGE $150 REFUNDABLE DEPOSIT, BUT IF THERE'S A DAMAGE EASY, IT WILL GO BEYOND HOW MANY $50 WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YES.
SO THE, UM, THE ACTUAL FORM THAT WE HAVE THAT PEOPLE USE TO FILL OUT FOR LAY LOGS, IT STATES THAT
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THAT IF YOU BREAK THE RULES, WE'LL TAKE YOUR DEPOSIT.BUT IF YOU CAUSE DAMAGE, WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU FOR THE DAMAGE THAT'S INCURRED.
HAVE WE DONE THAT? ANY PRECEDENT, UM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE IN TALKING WITH, UM, PAT WHO MANAGES THIS, MOST PEOPLE MAKE RESERVATIONS THROUGH THE ATHLETIC CLUB.
THE ONLY REALLY BIG ISSUES THAT WE'VE EVER HAD OVER AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE LEFT TRASH BEHIND.
AND TYPICALLY WE CALL THEM AND WE ASK THEM TO COME GET IT.
AND IF THEY DO, WE'LL LET THEM GET THEIR DEPOSIT.
THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF WANTING TO KEEP PEOPLE'S DEPOSITS.
WE JUST WANT THEM TO BE GOOD USERS OF THE CAR AND RESPONSIBLE.
WHO'S SUPERVISING THOSE GATHERING.
CURRENTLY ALL OF THE RESERVATIONS GO THROUGH THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB AND THEN ATHLETIC CLUB GOES ACROSS THE STREET, CHECKS ON THE RESERVATION AND MAKE SURE WHEN THEY'RE DONE THAT IT'S LEFT IN, IN GOOD STANDING.
UM, NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PARKS ALL OVER TOWN, THIS WILL BE A JOINT EFFORT BETWEEN PARKS AND REC STAFF, WHERE THE ATHLETIC CLUB WILL STILL MANAGE THE PAVILION AT LANE LOCKS AND THEN PARK STAFF WILL CHECK IN ON ALL OF THE OTHER FACILITIES IN TOWN.
CAN YOU CLARIFY AGAIN THAT, UH, WOULD THIS IMPACT AS IN CIRCLE PARK, THE BIG, BIG PARK OR ALL OF THE EXERCISE GROUPS AND THE BOOTCAMPS AND THE YOGA CLASSES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL GOES ON AND THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES ON, RIGHT? SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A DIFFERENT PART OF OUR ORDINANCE, BUT WE DO IN FACT, A LOT OF THOSE CLASSES.
AND IN FACT, I HOPE ALL THE CLASSES THAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE ONES THAT WE HAVE CREATED AS PART OF THE ALTUS AND OUTDOORS PROGRAM, WHERE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH VENDORS TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES IN OUR PARKS.
UM, DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE FOUND A LOT OF POP-UP CLASSES THAT WEREN'T PERMITTED.
UM, BUT THAT WAS A WHOLE NOTHER THING.
UM, AND WE'VE GOT GOOD LANGUAGE IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT HELPED US, UM, WORK ON THAT.
UM, SO THIS WOULD NOT IMPACT THAT, AND IT WOULD NOT IMPACT GATHERINGS AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
UM, ESPECIALLY VINCE WILL BE BRINGING TO YOU PRETTY SOON, I THINK, IN THE FALL, UM, AND UPDATE TO THEIR ORDINANCE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT SAYS, I THINK 1500 PEOPLE WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT ANYTHING THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE WOULD REQUIRE A PERMIT.
SO WE WOULD STILL LET GROUPS COME IN TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK.
IT JUST WOULD START TO MANAGE THE LITTLE DIFFERENT, I, THAT BEING SAID, I MEAN, I'M, I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, THIS, THIS IS FANTASTIC BECAUSE LIKE IN A MENTIONED, UM, THERE'VE BEEN, THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES WHERE I'VE WANTED TO RESERVE LIKE SPRAWL PARK AND WITHOUT HAVING IT, YOU KIND OF FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD I BE HERE? WHAT IF SOMEONE'S THERE? AND IT GIVES YOU THE PEACE OF MIND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
ONE OF THE, UM, THE WEDDINGS THAT WE LEARNED OUT ABOUT THE CAUSE ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT CELESTIAL I ACTUALLY CALLED THE COUPLE, CAUSE THEIR SIGN WAS OUT AND SPOKE WITH HIM.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUSED THE PROBLEMS IS THERE WAS ACTUALLY ANOTHER COUPLE THAT SHOWED UP TO GET MARRIED AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IT WAS ACTUALLY TWO WEDDINGS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
AND SO WE'VE HEARD OF SOME STORIES LIKE THAT HAPPENING, AND THIS WOULD ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES THAT WE WANT THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR PARTS.
THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM THAT SECURITY, THAT THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THAT SPACE FOR A SET PERIOD OF TIME.
AND THEN IT WOULD ALLOW US THE, YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO TELL THEM WHAT THE RULES ARE AND WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE.
AND SO ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE, UM, UH, LIKE A SCHEDULE ON THE WEBSITE? SO LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, I HAVE FAMILY COMING IN TOWN AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT ROLLING THE WAGONS AND THE PICNIC, YOU KNOW, DOWN TO CELESTIAL PARK.
UM, WE COULD SEE IF IT WAS BEING RESERVED OR WE WOULD LOOK AT BUILDING A CALENDAR THAT WE WOULD PUT ON OUR WEB PAGE THAT WOULD SHOW YOU ON ANY GIVEN DAY, WHAT RESERVATIONS WERE MADE IN THE PARK.
IT WOULDN'T TELL YOU ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE GROUP, LIKE THEIR NAME OR ANYTHING, BUT IT WOULD TELL YOU THAT THE ARBOR AT SPRAWLED PARK WAS RESERVED FROM TWO TO FOUR AND IT WOULD GIVE YOU THAT TYPE OF, UM, I LOVE THIS PLAN.
THIS IS VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT AND I'M DEFINITELY IN SUPPORT OF IT, BUT, UM, I HAVE ONE THOUGHT I WANTED TO SHARE, UH, SHARE WITH ALL OF US.
BUT, UM, THE THOUGHT IS, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE WANTING TO GET REAL FOCUSED WITH PERMITS ON PARKS, BUT I THINK WE MIGHT WANT TO ALSO AT THE SAME TIME THINK ABOUT, UH, UM, PERMIT SOMETHING LIKE A PERMIT FOR, FOR ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO HAVE A REGIONAL WALK OR RUN THROUGH ADDISON.
I KNOW SUSAN, I THINK SUSAN B. COLEMAN IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, BUT WHEN THE SILVER LINE PEDESTRIAN TRAIL, ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT TRAIL, WHATEVER,
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WHICHEVER THAT IS GOING TO BE CALLED? UM, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT MORE WALKS AND RUNS AND ORGANIZE THINGS AND, UH, I THINK THAT'LL BE GREAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KIND OF BE READY FOR THAT TOO.SO THAT, THAT THAT'S, WE ACTUALLY ALREADY HAVE THE PROCESS FOR RUNS AND WALKS.
AND THEN, UM, YEAH, THEN THE OTHER THOUGHT I WAS, UH, AS I WAS GOING THROUGH THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ENVISIONING RESIDENTS, RESIDENTS AND THEIR, UH, MAYBE THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH THERE BY THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AND THEY SEE A, SEE SOME TYPE OF EVENT OCCURRING.
AND, UH, UH, AND SO I'M CURIOUS WHEN YOU HAVE SOME TYPE OF YARD SIGN OR SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE EVENT HAS THAT, THAT IT SAYS THEY'VE GOT A PERMIT OR SPELL SOMETHING OUT, OTHERWISE RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I MEAN, I THINK THEY COULD BE CALLING IN EVERY, EVERY EVENT AND SAYING, HEY, IS THIS A PERMITTED EVENT? DID YOU KNOW? AND, AND THEN, SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN HOW, HOW DOES, UH, UM, HOW WE COORDINATE THIS WITH APD, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, ENFORCING THIS WITH PARKS RIGHT.
SO THAT, THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, JUST THE KIND OF THE YARD SIGN PERMIT THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, SURE.
WOULD MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK ON FRONT END, BUT, BUT WITH THE RESIDENTS, I THINK IT WOULD, UH, HELP YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION BECAUSE JUST LIKE YOU'LL HAVE ANY PROGRAM THAT YOU'LL ALWAYS POSTED IN A CONSPICUOUS AREA.
PEOPLE CAN SEE, SO THERE'S NO ARGUMENT.
THIS IS A PROBATE, YOU KNOW, WHEN PROBATE APPROVAL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.
SO WE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT AND WE DO HAVE A LITTLE, UM, SIGN ON THE PAVILION THAT ATHLETIC CLUB STAFF GOES OUT AND THEY CAN PUT SOMETHING UP THAT THE PAVILIONS RESERVED.
UM, THE ONE CHALLENGE THAT WE FACE WITH DOING THIS, THE REST OF THE PARKS IS A LOT OF THESE EVENTS WE ANTICIPATE ARE GOING TO HAPPEN ON WEEKENDS OR NIGHTS WHEN, UM, PARKS HAS A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY CREW.
UM, SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE PEOPLE HERE ON SATURDAYS, UM, UNLESS THEY'RE DOING SOME SORT OF SPECIAL EVENTS THAT I'VE EVER OR WORKING OVERTIME.
SO THE CALENDAR WAS WHAT WE WERE LOOKING OUT.
THAT WOULD BE OUR FIRST, LET'S TRY THAT FIRST AND SEE IF THE CALENDAR DOESN'T GIVE PEOPLE GOOD INFORMATION, UM, AND WOULD KIND OF HELP US STREAMLINE THE PROCESS FOR NOT HAVING STAFF TO GO PUT SIGNS OUT ON WEEKENDS.
BUT IT DEFINITELY IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO IF IT BECAME A PROBLEM.
AND WE NOTICED THAT THE CALENDAR WASN'T WORKING, UM, WE DID DISCUSS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING.
THEY LIKED THE IDEA THAT THEY ALSO WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO A CALENDAR THAT WOULD SHARE MORE INFORMATION.
SO IT WOULD SHARE THE PERSON'S NAME, PHONE NUMBER THAT HAD THE PERMIT, WHAT TIMEFRAME.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY IF SOMEBODY CALLED IN AND SAID, THERE WAS A GATHERING AT CELESTE DEAL HAPPENING, THEY COULD LOOK ON THE CALENDAR AND SAY, WELL, THAT'S A PERMITTED FUNCTION.
UM, ALTHOUGH WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO PUSH PEOPLE TO URBAN PARKS AND HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, BUT IF ONE WAS TO BE AUTHORIZED, THAT'S PROBABLY, YEAH, I GUESS JUST A THOUGHT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICATION PROCESS, WHEN THEY FILL OUT THEIR APPLICATION AND THEY PUT DOWN THEIR DEPOSIT, UM, MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY WHERE THEY GET UP, THEY PICK UP THEIR SON AND, AND YEAH, OUT THERE, IT'S NOT, YOU JUST PROVIDE TO THEM, THEY NEED TO POST IT
AND, AND SO THAT'S, OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET EVERYBODY KNOWING THAT THEY NEED A PERMIT AND REDUCING THE CALL.
SO I AGREE THAT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP LIMIT THAT, JESS, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW YOU CAME UP WITH THE 20 ON THE LOWER END OF THE SCALE THERE FOR WHAT SIZE GROUPS REQUIRE A PERMIT? SO WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN THE BARKS.
AND I KIND OF SAID IT BASED ON THE LOW NUMBER OF GROUP GATHERING THAT I HEARD WAS CAUSING IMPLICATIONS IN THE PARKS.
UM, THEY WERE SMALL POPUP WEDDINGS, AND THEY WEREN'T REALLY CAUSING A TRAFFIC PROBLEM, BUT SOME OF THEM WERE THE ONES THAT WERE CAUSING THE MELTED WAX ON MAGAZINE BOWS AND, AND THE SET UP THAT WASN'T REALLY APPROVED.
AND SO WE FELT LIKE THE, WHEN IT STARTS TO GET TO A GROUP SIZE OF 20 IS WHEN WE WERE SEEING THE PROBLEMS OCCUR.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE SET THAT NUMBER AT
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HOW QUICKLY YOU ENVISION.SO A RESIDENT OR SOMEONE UNABLE TO OBTAIN THEM.
SO THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR US TO BRING BACK AN UPDATE TO THE ORDINANCE, TO YOU FOR ADOPTION.
AND ONCE THAT'S APPROVED, WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY START SIGNAGE OUT IN THE PARKS, UM, THAT A PERMIT WAS USED AND WE WOULD START PUTTING INFORMATION ON NEXT DOOR AND THE NEWSLETTER.
SO PEOPLE KNEW WHAT THE NEW PROCESS WAS.
AND WE WOULD START THAT MEETING.
SO I WAS JUST GONNA FOLLOW UP TOO ON MARLIN WAS TALKING ABOUT, I LIKED THE IDEA OF, UM, INITIALLY STARTING OUT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CALENDAR AND THE ONLINE CALENDAR, BUT MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WOULD WORK, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMEHOW HAVE SIGN THE PARKS THAT SAYS THAT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PARK CAN BE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN RESERVE THE PARK AND HERE'S THE CALENDAR.
SO PEOPLE COULD JUST GO TO THEIR PHONE OR MAYBE WE CAN INTEGRATE IT INTO THE APP OR TO, UM, THINKING OUT OF QR TO, YEAH.
SO THERE YOU GO PUT, PUT A QR CODE SOMEHOW, SO THAT IN REAL TIME, BECAUSE THE ISSUE TOO IS GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO RENT THE PARK ON A SUNDAY AND IT'S SATURDAY OR SOMETHING, AND WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? THERE'S, THERE'S LITTLE QUIRKY THINGS.
SO WE TYPICALLY DO REQUIRE A THREE DAY NOTICE, UM, IN ORDER TO RESERVE THE PAVILION AT LANDLORDS, UM, ARGUING WE'RE ABOUT TO UPDATE OUR FORM.
CAUSE OUR FORM RIGHT NOW SAYS SEVEN DAYS, BUT WE'VE REALIZED WE CAN MAKE THIS HAPPEN IN THREE DAYS.
SO WE WERE ABOUT TO UPDATE THAT.
UM, BUT WE DO NEED A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET THEIR DEPOSIT, TO PROVE THEIR APPLICATION AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THREE DAYS SEEMED DOABLE TO US.
CAN, CAN YOU, ARE WE MAKING IT WHERE IT'S ALL ELECTRONIC SO THEY CAN DO IT ALL ELECTRONICALLY? OR DO THEY NEED TO GIVE YOU A PAPER CHECK OR, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, IS IT, IS IT, IS IT, WE, THEY WOULD, I'LL NEED TO LOOK AND SEE IF THEY CAN PAY ONLINE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT PART.
I DO KNOW THAT WE CAN DO AN ELECTRONIC FORM THAT THEY CAN FILL OUT AND IT WOULD EMAIL TO US, BUT I'LL LOOK INTO THE PAYMENT PORTION, ASSUMING THIS GETS APPROVED, WHICH I BELIEVE IT WILL, UM, IS THE PLAN THAT WE WILL UPDATE THE SIGNAGE AT THE PARKS TO REFER TO THE UPDATED ORDINANCE.
AND WHAT OUR PLAN IS IS YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT WE'VE STARTED TO UPDATE OUR ROLE SIGNS ALREADY.
AND SO SOME OF THOSE SIGNS I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO OUR ASSIGNED VENDOR ABOUT, COULD HE MAKE US ANOTHER PIECE THAT CAN ATTACH AT THE BOTTOM? UM, AND THEN IF WE'RE IT'S ASSIGNED, WE HAVEN'T UPDATED WHEN WE UPDATE IT WILL OR WE WILL UPDATE IT AND WE'LL PUT THAT NEW INFORMATION ON IT.
CAN I MAKE ONE RECOMMENDATION? ARE YOU COMING BACK TO US? SURE.
I DON'T WANT YOU GUYS TO GET IN TROUBLE, YOU KNOW, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT USING SOME DISCRETION ON NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, COME UP WITH SOME CRITERIA.
OTHERWISE YOU TURN SOMEBODY DOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO, WHY DIDN'T YOU TURN ME DOWN? SO LIKE POLICE, SOME OUTLINE OF WHAT? SO OUR THOUGHT PROCESSES, IT HAD TO BE NEIGHBORHOOD RELATED, LIKE A BLOCK PARTY NEIGHBORHOOD NIGHT OUT, BUT WE'LL LIST.
CAUSE I KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
OTHERWISE THERE'LL BE ON YOU GUYS ABOUT OR FIVE.
SO I WOULD PUT A LIST OF THAT STUFF AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
ANY MORE QUESTION? UM, I'VE GOT ONE.
SO JANET, IF, UH, SO YOU'VE GOT AN EVENT GOING ON IN CELESTIAL PARK IS NOT PERMITTED NON ADDISON.
IT'S BEEN CALLED IN AS THE POLICE SHOW UP.
ARE THEY GONNA KICK THEM OUT OF THE PARK? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO? I MEAN, SO THAT OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THEY WOULD ASK THEM TO LEAVE.
UM, IF A LOT OF TIMES OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS VERY FRIENDLY AND WOULD GIVE THEM A REMINDER OR JUST LET THEM KNOW THAT THEY WERE NOT BRAVE.
THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWING THE ORDINANCE.
UM, IF IT TURNED INTO AN ISSUE WHERE THEY WEREN'T LEAVING OR THEY CAME BACK, UM, THEY WOULD WRITE THEM A CITATION.
OF COURSE IT WOULD BE THEIR DISCRETION.
THEY MIGHT DO IT THE FIRST TIME, WRITE A CITATION, UM, IN A FINE, COULD BE APPLIED TO THAT FOR THE, FOR THE FACT THAT THEY WERE USING THE PARK WITHOUT A PERMIT, YES, 20 OR MORE.
UM, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE REALLY GOOD SIGNAGE.
I DID TALK TO THE GROUPS THAT HAD SOME WEDDINGS
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AT THE PARK AND THEY ACTUALLY CALLED US AND ASKED US IF THEY COULD HAVE A SMALL GATHERING IN THE PARK.UM, SO THEY ARE CALLING AND ASKING US, THEY WENT TO THE PARK.
THEY DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ON THE RULE SIGNS THAT SAID THEY COULDN'T DO IT.
IN ONE INSTANCE, THEY EVEN ASKED THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO WE WILL TELL THEM WHAT THE RULES ARE WHEN THEY CALL.
UM, AND WE WILL PUT REALLY GOOD SIGNAGE OUT THERE.
AND WE HOPE A LOT OF THAT JUST KEEPS IT IN CHECK.
BUT I DO ANTICIPATE THAT THERE WILL BE INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A GATHERING THAT WASN'T PERMITTED.
PART OF THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE OFFICERS AREN'T ENFORCING OUR DUMPED PARK ON THE STREET SIGNS.
AND SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT TOO.
I MEAN, THERE'S FIVE PARKING SLOTS THERE.
THE PARKING ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET ARE HELL BROKE.
AND SO, UM, THOSE AREN'T, THEY'RE NOT GETTING TICKETED OR NOT, THEY'RE NOT BEING TOLD TO MOVE.
AND SO THEY JUST ASSUME THEY CAN JUST DO WHATEVER.
SO, AND WHEN IT'S RE, WHEN IT'S REGARDING USE OF A PARK, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
UM, HOWEVER, THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE, UM, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, GET A WAIVER AND ALLOWED THEM.
SO THERE'LL BE HAVING MAYBE HAVING, MAYBE HAVING A PARTY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, THIS IS ON, THIS IS ON CELESTIAL, RIGHT? RIGHT, RIGHT.
RIGHT? SO THAT, THAT, I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE PEOPLE ARE PARKING IN THE AREA AND THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A WAITING ROOM.
SO WE'VE GOT TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THOSE SO THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SOLVING THE RIGHT PROBLEM.
AND WHAT QUESTION, IF WITHOUT, FOR THE QUESTION, INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH THE WORK SESSION, NUMBER THREE,
[ Announcements and Acknowledgments Regarding Town and Council Events and Activities A presentation by the Texas Coalition for Affordable Power to the Town of Addison as a founding member of the organization. Discussion of Meetings / Events]
I LIKE TO INVITE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM CHICO CHEEK HAP TO MAKE A PRESENT PATIENT FIRST BECAUSE I HAVE, LET'S SEE THE NEXT 10 TO 20 MINUTES.I DON'T WANT YOU TO SIT AND WAIT.
AND DO WE HAVE A MICROPHONE? WE'LL STAND OVER HERE IF THAT'S OKAY.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE TEXAS COALITION FOR AFFORDABLE POWER.
I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES, CAUSE I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE, YOU'RE DOING A MARATHON TONIGHT WITH THIS COUNCIL AGENDA.
UM, 20 YEARS AGO, THE TOWN OF ADDISON PASSED A RESOLUTION AND JOINED A GROUP CALLED THE CITY'S AGGREGATION POWER PROJECT, WHICH WAS TO, UM, READ THIS.
IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY TO HELP CITIES SAVE MONEY ON ELECTRIC BILLS FAST FORWARD.
AND IN 2011, THE CITY'S AGGREGATION POWER PROJECT JOINED WITH THE SOUTH TEXAS AGGREGATION PROJECT WITH THE SAME PURPOSE.
UM, WE'RE STILL FINDING ENERGY RATES THAT SAVE OUR MEMBERS MONEY AND IN TURN SAVE TAX DOLLARS FOR THE 168 MEMBERS T CAP IS THE LARGEST ORGANIZATION OF ITS KIND IN TEXAS.
AS WE BEGIN OUR 20TH YEAR, WE WANT TO THANK OUR FOUNDING MEMBERS, THOSE MEMBERS THAT WERE THERE FROM THE START AND WHO CONTINUED TO BE LEADERS IN WORKING TOGETHER FOR SAVINGS ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND MYSELF.
I WANT TO PRESENT THIS TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON AS A THANK YOU FOR YOUR MEMBERSHIP IN THE TEXAS COALITION FOR AFFORDABLE POWER.
AND THIS TO ME THANK YOU FOR CALLING.
[3. Present and Discuss Council Liaison Opportunities and Appointments. ]
LET'S GO BACK TO ITEM THREE, PRESENT, DISCUSS CONSOLE LIAISON OPPORTUNITIES POINTS.MAYOR COUNCIL PARKERS AND SACRAL SECRETARY.
UH, I HAVE PASSED OUT SOMETHING THERE FOR YOU FOR EACH ONE OF YOU, UH, ON THE, UH, LIST OF NAMES FROM THE PREVIOUS APPOINTMENTS AND THEN A LIST OF PEOPLE TO APPOINT, UH, ON THIS YEAR.
AND IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND START, UH, I'VE GOT A SEPARATED OUT BY THE FUNDED PROJECTS AND THE END FUNDED AND,
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UH, MAYOR, UH, DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND START? WE DON'T MEET BEFORE WE START THE, UH, APPOINTMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK SHE COULDN'T LAURIE WANT TO SAY SOMETHING.WELL, BEFORE WE START DOING THAT, WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE JUST A SHORT DISCUSSION ON PERHAPS CONSOLIDATING SOME OF THE APPOINTMENTS OR, UM, JUST KIND OF TAKING A LOOK AT AT, AT, UM, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE INVESTING IN DOING THIS AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WEIGHING THAT VERSUS THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TASK AND SO ON.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SOME OF THESE MAY BE ABLE TO BE CONSOLIDATED OR PERHAPS, UM, THE OTHER THING IS DO ALL OF THESE, UH, NEED MORE THAN ONE LIAISON.
UH, SOME OF, SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
SO I LIKE TO START A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IF I CAN, IF WE DO THIS.
AND IT'S A LOT OF, IT'S A LOT GOING ON.
AND MY CONCERN IS THAT, UM, THAT I KNOW SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND FOR SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S, IT'S A LOT TO TAKE ON FOR, UM, THAT MAY NOT BE TOTALLY NECESSARY.
AND THAT'S JUST BEEN MY OBSERVATION.
DID YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC EXAMPLE? YEAH.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, SINCE THE FUNDED ORGANIZATIONS ARE COMING DIRECTLY TO COUNCIL, REMEMBER WE MADE THAT CHANGE WHERE THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL COMING TO COUNCIL TO MAKE THEIR PRESENTATIONS.
THEN I THINK THAT'S A FINE WAY TO DO IT INSTEAD OF HAVING THE ADDITIONAL, UH, OVERSIGHT OF LIAISONS, IT'S JUST HAVE THEM COME MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL.
WE SEE IT ALL AT THE SAME TIME AND MAKE OUR DECISION ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO, SO IN THAT SCENARIO WE WOULDN'T HAVE A PARTICULAR PERSON THAT'S PROVIDING A REPORT.
SO YEAH, THE LIAISON, CORRECT? YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARILY, I, I DON'T WANT TO KIND OF RUN ALL OVER IT, BUT THE OTHER THING IS THERE'S SEVERAL OF THEM THAT HAVE CONTRACTED SERVICES THAT, THAT, UH, ORLANDO AND HIS TEAM WORK WITH THEM ON.
AND BECAUSE WE, AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, DON'T GO DIRECTLY TO STAFF AND HAVE CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, HAVE CONVERSATIONS THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER ON TOP OF, YOU KNOW, OVER ORLANDO DOING THAT.
I MEAN, SUCH A WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL, THAT'S THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THE NONPROFITS, ALL OF THEM.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO DISCUSS.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS IS, IS WHERE, HOW CAN WE CONSOLIDATE THIS AND MAKE IT THE BEST POSSIBLE USE OF EVERYONE'S TIME? YOU KNOW, UH, LET'S GO TO EDISON OPERA FOUNDATION FIRST, AND THEN WE DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO KEEP IT OR NOT.
SO CAN WE NEED TO BE A LIAISON FOR EDISON OPERA FOUNDATION CURRENTLY IS A COUNCIL MEMBER WATER.
UM, I MEAN, DEFINITELY MAY HAVE PROBABLY BEEN ALL PAUL YOU THINK, WELL, YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO SERVE AS THE LIAISON, JOE.
I MEAN, I HAVE A PASSION FOR THIS FOR SURE, BUT I THINK LAURIE'S POINT TO FUNDING ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL THING AGAIN, I THINK THAT I I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF AS A FIRST STEP WITH THIS DISCUSSION, JUST SAY, UM, ALL OF THOSE SINCE, SINCE THE PRESENTATIONS FOR FUNDING COME TO THE COUNCIL AND COUNCIL MAKES DECISION, RIGHT.
THAT, SO, UM, AND I THINK THAT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY, UM, ONGOING CONTACT THAT AS AN EXAMPLE ON THE ARBOR FOUNDATION, I CAN TELL YOU WITH CERTAINTY THAT JAY SPEAKS WITH JANA ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT MAKES SENSE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND BECAUSE IF HE'S GOING TO PUT IT UP OR THEY'RE GOING TO THINKING ABOUT PUTTING A PIECE OF ART OR SOMETHING, WELL, COME TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.
YOU GOTTA COME TALK TO JANET BACK, RIGHT.
BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO GO ON AND THEN WHAT KIND OF LIGHTING, WHAT KIND OF LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW? AND, AND THEN JANNA MAY GET SHANNON INVOLVED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF WHAT THE UTILITIES ARE AND ALL THAT TO GO TO SAY THAT IT'S ALL STAFF, RIGHT? AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, WELL, THAT'S ALL THEY END UP IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW? UH, BUT IT DID BOUNCE OFF THE CHAMBER
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AS AN EXAMPLE.AND ALL OF THESE IRMA SENDS US A MESSAGE AND SAYS, HEY, THE CHAMBER'S HAVING YOU X, Y, AND Z EVENT.
MOST OF US GET MORE ON THE NEWSLETTERS ANYWAY.
HEY, IS IT, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO GO? AND, AND SO ANY OF US CAN GO ATTEND THESE EVENTS AND SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATIONS.
AND WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING IS IF YOU HAVE ONE PERSON ON IT, THEN THEY CAN'T ALWAYS MAKE THE EVENTS.
ANYWAY, IRV HAS GOT MIKE LIKE WITH THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER, YOU SAY, HEY, WHO WANTS TO GO? AND WHO HAS THE AVAILABILITY ON THEIR CALENDAR STEPS UP? AND IT'S USUALLY ONE OR TWO OF US.
SOMETIMES THREE IS TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO DO IT.
I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE METROCREST CHAMBER OR MAYBE THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, THERE'S A LIAISON FOR COMMUNITY.
UM, SO EVERY COMMUNITY HAS SOMEBODY IN THAT BEGINNING OF EVERY ONE OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS, MARY GIVES US KIND OF A CHEAT SHEET OF, OKAY, HERE'S, WHAT'S GOING ON THIS MONTH.
THAT IS LIKE BIG PICTURE THINGS.
AND SO WE TALK ABOUT IT, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, SO KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF LANDO DOESN'T COME TO ANY OF THOSE.
I MEAN, USED, HE USED THE DIRECT, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECT PERSON LOOKING AT THE FUNDING AND WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING FOR THE FUNDING AND PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER MOST OF THE TIME.
BUT AS FAR AS ONE OF THE MEETINGS, HE DOESN'T GO TO ANY OF THOSE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GETTING A NEW DIRECTOR.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW, I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD CONTINUE FORWARD THE SAME WAY.
SO I DON'T MIND ALL MY PARKING I'M A MEMBER ANYWAY.
SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I SERVE ON THE BOARD ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER MAJORS BEFORE IT'S CALLED PHELPS IN A VACUUM MILLER, TWO OF US, EACH MAYOR REPRESENT EACH CITY SERVING, UM, METRO QUEST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I GO TO THE, I GO TO THE WOMEN'S EVENTS BECAUSE THOSE ARE FABULOUS EVENTS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO, UM, BOTH OPERA FOUNDATION AND AS QUESTION, BUT CONGRESS, AS, AS FAR AS I'LL CRY THEATER AS THE NON-NATIVE THEATER, AND I THINK IT'S ALL, ALL THEATER, WE SUPPORT IT.
IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY SILVER.
SO BACKING UP TO ARBOR FOUNDATION.
PAUL, ARE YOU STILL ON DOING THE LIAISON THERE? YOU'LL HAVE A PASSION A LITTLE BIT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, IF WE THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO, CAN I SAY SOMETHING? SURE.
I THINK I, I I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON ANY OF THESE, JUST ONE ORGANIZATION.
SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DISRUPT THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY.
SO WE HAVE SOME OF MY SUGGESTIONS.
I AGREE WITH YOU NOT, UH, UH, OF COURSE THE LAW COMES WITH MEMBERS TO SERVE THE 10 AS A REPRESENTATIVE TO ANY OF THE ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, MS. BROWN CAN SET UP THE WHOLE COUNCIL AND MAKE SURE WE ARE, WE'RE ALL UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE UNDERGOING OUT THERE AND REPRESENTING, UM, PERHAPS EVEN MOVE THE FUNDED ORGANIZATIONS OVER TO OVERSIGHT OF THE STAFF, WHERE THEY WOULD PROBABLY DISTRIBUTE TO THE COUNCIL REPORTS AND UPDATES FROM STAFF, FOR THE ORGANIZATIONS, FOR THOSE ORGANIZATIONS TO PUT, PUT IT INTO THE OVERSIGHT.
I KNOW THAT THAT MAY HAVE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, BEFORE WE MAKE THIS DECISION ON SUNSETTING, ANY OF THESE APPOINTMENTS OR THESE LIAISON POSITIONS, WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE MANAGER.
SO YOU MANAGE IT TO DISCUSS ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE PROCESS.
AND THAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN HERE IF YOU'D LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN TONIGHT.
UM, I, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TOM BROUGHT UP IS, IS THERE AN EXPECTATION AT A MINIMUM OR A RE A REQUIREMENT IN SOME CASES, UM, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT EITHER, YOU KNOW, THE BYLAWS OF THE WATER TOWER THEATER OR SOMETHING WITH THE METRO
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METRO COAST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE THAT WE HAVE TO BE AWARE OF.AND I CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW TONIGHT.
SO I THINK BEFORE WE MAKE ANY FINAL DECISIONS, WE NEED TO DO THAT HOMEWORK TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, UPSETTING THE APPLE CART.
THIS IS THE LIAISON PROGRAM WAS STARTED WHILE I WAS MEETING.
SO I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE HAVE REPRESENTATION IN EACH ORGANIZATIONS.
SO, UM, I THINK OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES OF THE DATES.
UM, BUT HONESTLY WE ONLY NEED TWO PEOPLE SUBBING, UM, SAME ORGANIZATION ON WAR, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO NEED, SO WE CAN GO FROM THERE ALSO, DEPENDING ON THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ORGANIZATION, I MEAN, THE RELATIONSHIP THAT IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP WITH TOM.
SO WHETHER WE NEED TO HAVE ALL, WE SUNSET IT.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO JUST FROM EACH ORGANIZATION AND THEN GO FROM THERE, THEN WE CAN GET IT DONE QUICKLY.
YEAH, I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE TOO, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE, WHAT HAPPENS IS, AS SOME OF US ARE NOT ABLE TO EXTEND OURSELVES, UM, IN, IN MORE THAN ONE OR TWO, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES, AND THEN ALL OF THEM FALL INTO TOM'S BUCKET OR GQS BUCKET, AND THEN THEY'RE SIGNED UP TO BE LIAISONS FOR SIX DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN THEY ARE, THEY'RE SPREAD TOO THIN.
I MAKE A SUGGESTION ON THE, UH, THE FUNDED, THE NONPROFITS.
UH, I THINK IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION IN THEIR BYLAWS IS THAT ONE OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS IS A COUNCIL MEMBER.
UM, BUT, BUT PAUL, EITHER PAUL WANTS TO, WHO'S PASSIONATE ABOUT IT, PAUL.
UM, I WOULD, AND IT'S, IT'S A BIG, BIG DEAL IN OUR TOWN.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST WE KEEP THE LADIES ON FOR THAT.
I WOULD SUGGEST WE KEEP ONE LIAISON FOR THE METRO CHRIS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND ONE FOR THE WATER TOWER THEATER.
AND THEN ON THESE OTHER ONES, UM, MAYBE HAVE A STAFF MEMBER THAT'S CLOSE, LIKE ORLANDO WORLD AFFAIRS CONCEPT.
I'VE BROUGHT IT IN WITHOUT FEARS CONSOLE TO THE SEAT.
I THINK OFTEN THEY HAVE DIGNITARIES COMING FROM INTERNATIONAL.
SO DELIGHT US TO GETTING INVOLVED IS NOT JUST A LENDER, NOT JUST
WHAT IF WE HAD JUST MARRIED SHALL BE THE ONE LIAISON FOR THAT? IF ANY OF US WANTED TO ATTEND AN EVENT, WE JUST COULD CHOOSE.
CAUSE I LIKE TO GO TO SOME, SOME OF THE EVENTS THAT I CAN MAKE, SO, AND I USUALLY POST I GET, IT JUST IS COUNCIL MEMBER BOARDS.
IF I GET SOMETHING FOR THE PROGRAM IT'S GOING TO NURSE COUNCIL, LIKE WILL SUBMIT THAT TO ALL OF COUNCIL AS I GET WITH ALL THE REST OF THE EVENTS.
AND THEN DID WE HIT THEN? DO WE NEED TO SUNSET AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH THE FARMERS BRANCH? YEAH, IT'S DONE RIGHT.
SO I'LL LET EDISON ALL FOR IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE.
YOU WANT TO COME TO, TO SIP ON, SO CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION PLEASE? DID WE SAY NOTHING FOR OUTCRY IN THE AIR? NO.
AND THEN WATER TOWERS, WEST DENNIS, UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THIS WITH YOUR STAFF BEFORE WE START THIS PROCESS.
SO AS FAR AS THE OUTCRY THEATER GOES, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE'S NOT AN OBLIGATION THAT WE HAVE WITH THE OUTCRY THEATER FOR ANY KIND OF THE LIAISON ASSIGNED, BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECENTLY CREATED.
SO THE ANSWER IS THAT WAS, THAT WAS EASY.
WHAT I'M HEARING THOUGH IS, IS THAT FOR THE ARBOR FOUNDATION, THAT COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE STILL FOR THE METRO CREST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
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OF REPRESENTATIVES STILL FOR THE WORLD, WORLD AFFAIRS COUNCIL, UM, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE STILL.SO THE ONLY ONE THAT'S NOT CLEAR IN MY MIND IS THE WATER TOWER THEATER.
AND IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HAVE SOMEBODY SERVE AS A LIAISON THERE, THEN THAT REALLY ELIMINATES THE LEAST THE NEED RIGHT NOW TO, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, UNLESS THE COUNCIL DOESN'T FEEL WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE COUNCIL SAYS, WELL, WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO HAVE AN, A LIAISON FOR THE WATER TOWER THEATER.
ARE WE GOING TO UPSET ANYTHING, MINNEAPOLIS CARDS BY DOING THAT? WE CAN GO AND DO THAT RESEARCH.
AND YOU COME BACK, WHICH OF THESE DO YOU GUYS USE ON THE LABELS OR FIND A LINK TO THE SUCCESS OF THE ORGANIZATION AND THE RELATIONSHIP THAT TOM HAS DEVELOPED.
SO BRING THAT ONE BACK TO YOU.
UNLESS, UNLESS SOMEBODY HERE TONIGHT WANTS TO SAY AND THEY'LL DO IT.
SO I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW TO ASK YOU.
SO WE SAW SAID FAMILIES GRINCH.
I THINK COUNSELING BROUGHT AROUND.
DID YOU SAY YOU WANTED TO DO THAT? I'LL DO WATER TOWER.
I THOUGHT WE TALKED ABOUT SOMETHING WE'VE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH FOR 21 YEARS.
SO THE ONLY ONE WE SEND, SEND IT IN THE FIRST BATCH.
THEN THE SECOND HALF IS A LOT OF STEEL ON SILVER ON THAT.
CATHERINE WANT TO DO THAT? SORRY.
OUR COUNCILMAN WHEELER AND WILSON.
THAT'S PART, IT'S PART OF THE, PART OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS NOT HAVE TO DA'S OFFICE.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT WITH SOME OF THESE MAJOR, UH, MAJOR ONES LIKE THE AIRPORT.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I'M LOOKING AT WEST TO SEE IF THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES AT THAT TIME.
THE AIRPORT IS NOW JUST ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE
YOU KNOW, WITH THIS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IS THE WHOLE STAFF.
SO WHEN DID IT SOUND SET AND SUNSET ADDISON FARMERS BRANCH OUT.
HOW COME IT, YOU SAW SAID EDUCATION, FUN AS COMMITTEE.
I THINK I MEANT HE IS LEAVING AND I THINK WE REALLY NEED FOR FINANCE COMPANY.
I THINK THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE DID, AND THERE WAS A REASON THAT THAT WAS THAT IF YOU COULD GIVE US A LITTLE, LITTLE, SOMEONE COULD GIVE US A LITTLE HISTORY ON
WHY WOULD WE HAVE THAT? EVEN THE SONG SAID, THIS IS COMING, IT PREDATES ME.
SO I WILL DO MY BEST TO EXPLAIN.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE, UNLESS YOU HAMID, I GUESS, WAS HERE AT THE TIME.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION, BUT IT, YEAH.
SO I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU THE YEAR, BUT IT WAS, UH, PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL IN 20, I GOT HERE AT THE END OF 2015.
UH, THERE WAS A FINANCE COMMITTEE THAT WAS IN PLACE IN OPERATING.
UM, IT REQUIRED THREE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO BE PART OF THAT COMMITTEE.
AGAIN, I'M NOT FAMILIAR, UH, WITH THE DETAILS OF HOW IT CAME ABOUT OR WHEN IT CAME ABOUT.
I JUST KNOW THAT IT WAS IN PLACE WHEN I GOT HERE.
AND AT THE TIME THE MEMBERS THAT WERE SERVING ON IT WERE THE MAYOR.
UH, SO AT THE TIME IT WAS MAYOR TOM MEYER, UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, IVAN HUGHES ALSO SERVED ON IT.
AND I BELIEVE WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, NO, I THINK IT WAS, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER.
DALE WILCOX IS ALSO ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
SO IT WAS ESTABLISHED ON SPIRAL.
IT WAS ESTABLISHED BY AN ACTION THAT THE COUNCIL.
SO, UM, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT, UH, THOSE, BUT, BUT I'M GIVING YOU, I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE HISTORICAL RIGHT HERE.
IT DOES HAVE BYLAWS AND, AND, UH, SO IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY THAN, UH, YOU MAKE THAT GO AWAY OR WHATEVER, UH, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE REVIEW NOT ONLY THE BYLAWS, BUT A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THE HISTORY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE FINANCE AND EDUCATION, EXCUSE ME, FINANCE AND EDUCATION, OR JUST TALKING ABOUT FINANCES.
THE, THE OTHER THOUGHT I HAD WAS THAT THE METROPLEX MAYORS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE MAYOR.
IT'S NEVER NOT GOING TO BE THE MAYOR.
AM I WRONG ABOUT THAT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO CALL THAT OUT ON THE LIST OTHER THAN THEN THAT'S THE MAYOR.
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THE MAYOR.AND THEN ON THE CHAMBER, THE GREATER DALLAS, THE NORTH DALLAS, THOSE CHAMBERS, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD FOR, UM, WE HAVE MEMBERSHIP AS A TOWN AND WHEN THE EVENTS COME UP, THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT CAN COMMIT TO GOING AND GO, I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE LIAISON THING FOR THOSE FOUR FOR THE CHAMBERS OF CONGRESS, DALLAS CHAMBERS, CONGRESS, AND THE DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER.
UH, LOOK, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, MOST DALLAS CHAMBER, WE HAVE LONG TIME RELATIONSHIP AS IT WAS BUILT UP FROM ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO.
SO LAST UP ON THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR, WE HAVE GREAT CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH NOSTALGIA, CHIMP.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE TO KEEP THAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP
I'M PERFECTLY WILLING TO CONTINUE THAT THE COUNCIL IS SATISFIED.
AND I THINK YOU MAKE A CONTRIBUTION AND HE'S ON A COMMITTEE FOR THAT DEALS WITH POLICY AND IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE AND HE'S COMMITTED TO IT.
WE NEED TO HAVE THEM LAST TEXAS COMMISSION IS A WELL-KNOWN ORGANIZATIONS SO HELPFUL TO THE ENTIRE REGION.
SO THEY HAD SO MUCH INFLUENCE TO THE FORMER VFW LPN, AND NOW STILL SERVING A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE IN LIFE.
ESPECIALLY CHRIS WALLACE IS SO GOOD WITH, UH, UH
WELL, TOM, I BELIEVE STILL IS A BOARD MEMBER OF THE NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR.
MAYOR IS THAT I AM IN NO WAY UNDERSCORING THE EXTREME IMPORTANCE OF BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS IN THE COMMUNITY AND MAINTAINING RELATIONSHIPS AND BUILDING AND DEVELOPING RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE STAFF WHEN NEEDED, NOT ONLY CAN THEY BE DONE WITH STAFF, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO BE DONE WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, AS A, AS A DEFAULT OF OUR INTERESTS AND THE TOWN'S INVOLVEMENT.
I THINK THAT THE CONCERN THAT I HAD IS I DIDN'T WANT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE THESE LISTS OF THINGS AND JUST EVERYBODY PILE ON.
AND THEN SOMEONE HAS SIX, YOU KNOW, APPOINTMENTS THAT THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOCATING THAT LEVEL OF TIME RESOURCE TO THAT BECAUSE IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
IT'S NOT A GOOD, IT'S NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT OF TIME FOR ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE ON FOUR AND FIVE DIFFERENT COMMITTEES WHEN WE'VE GOT OTHER, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF RESPONSIBILITIES AND SOMEONE FROM TOWER STAFF COULD, COULD ATTEND.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON THINGS THAT WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT.
AND THEN IF THERE'S SOMETHING EXTRA WE SAYING, NOW LET'S AS A COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, ASK CATHERINE, IF SHE'S INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, X, Y, OR Z, I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH BUREAUCRACY ON TOP OF ALL OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS AND GET PILED ON.
AND THAT'S, THAT WAS MY, KIND OF MY INTENT THERE.
IT SEEMS TO BE THAT WAY FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.
I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT WHAT I DON'T AGREE WITH IS THE PART THAT SOMEBODY CARES ENOUGH TO, TO, TO BE A LIAISON.
AND FROM HIM, WE, WE TELL THEM, NO, SAY IT AGAIN.
UM, IF TOM, FOR EXAMPLE, WHO'S LOADED UP HERE.
I MEAN, IF HE'S, IF HE'S WILLING TO LABEL WHAT'S THAT HE LIKES IT.
UM, I'M NOT GOING TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH, BUT, UM, IF HE IS ABLE TO BE A LIAISON FOR, FOR SOME OF THESE, UH, GROUPS, UM, I'M NOT GONNA TELL HIM NO, I'M NOT BEING APPRECIATED HIM FOR, FOR, I'M NOT EITHER.
I DON'T, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT TO SPLIT HAIRS OVER THE TERM LIAISON.
I THINK THAT WHEN SOMEONE'S PASSIONATE ABOUT DOING THESE THINGS THAT THEY SHOULD DO, THEN I WOULD NOT STAND IN THE WAY OF PAUL AND AS OUR FOUNDATION OR GQ AND THE MORE DALLAS CHAMBER THEY'RE DOING FANTASTIC WORK.
I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HELP EACH OTHER BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE BEST USE OF OUR TIME.
AND I THINK THAT IF THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT NEEDS COVERAGE AND ONE OF US CANNOT DO IT, OR SOMEONE APPEARS TO BE OVERLOADED THAT WE SAY, LET'S
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TAKE STEP BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CATHERINE, OR MAYBE YOU CAN, CAN WE SEE IT ALL? THEN YOU CAN DELEGATE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WILSON OR SOMEBODY IN THE ECONOMIC.I'M JUST, I'M JUST THROWING, THROWING IDEAS OUT THERE.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY NO TO ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO DO.
TOM WAS ASKED BY METRO QUESTION, SLIPPED ON BOARD.
HE WAS ASKED, WHAT IS ALL VIEWED? ARE YOU SERVE ON THE BOARD? AND THEN I AGREE SO MUCH OF PASSION OF, I AGREE WITH HIM.
I AGREE TO BUILD UP THE RELATIONSHIP.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO SAY NO, TOM SERVING FOR THREE, LIKE REMEMBER YOU GUYS, PLEASE WILL.
IT WAS BECAUSE WE SAID YOU GET TWO LIAISONS.
OH, WELL, I'M GOING TO PITT, CAN I PICK, OKAY, WELL THEN I'LL TAKE IVAN AND TOM.
SO I WANT, I WANTED US TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS OUR CHOOSING AND WE ARE, YOU KNOW, PROACTIVELY GOING OUT AND SEEKING THAT OUT, WHICH I THINK, I THINK IS FINE.
I JUST WANNA, I JUST WANT TO USE CAUTION WITH, UM, UH, JUST BURN OUT TOO WITH I DON'T TOM SAYING YES TO EVERYTHING.
AND I KNOW HE'S PASSIONATELY WANTS TO DO IT THAT MAKE IT ASK, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO COME TO SOME OF THE MEETINGS AND STARTED TAKING OVER METROCARDS CHAMBER? IT'S A ONCE A MONTH COMMITMENT AND GET YOU, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TOWN, LIKE ALL OF THEM, BUT IF CATHERINE WOULD DO IT AND IT'S THEY MEET HERE RIGHT AT THIS POINT, HAVE THEY'RE MEETING HERE ON ZOOM CALL OR HERE.
SO IT'S, AND I'LL GO TO A FEW OF THEM THAT ALL CATHERINE YEAH.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GO TO THE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON A MONTH AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE RETREAT, SO I'LL GO FIRST A MONTH OR SO, BECAUSE THERE, CAUSE AT THIS POINT THEY'RE IN TRANSITION ANYWAY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE PRESIDENT AND
I'M JUST AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU KNOW, RICHARDSON AND ADDISON, ALTERNATE, THEY, UH, BOARD MEMBER, ALL THE TALKIE.
SO RIGHT NOW AS THE MAYOR OF LOCUS AND THAT'D BE
SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT IN ROLE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SO THIS GOTCHA CONSTRUCTION IN A MINDSET AND HOW, AND HOW IT WORKS IS THAT WHEN WE ARE NOT THE PRIMARY REPRESENTATIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE SECRETARY, SO LOTS OF NAMES, THIS MAKES SENSE FOR A LIAISON ROLE.
TO ME, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
AND THEY'VE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT IVAN HAS LEFT.
JAYCO IS MOST APPROPRIATE PERSON FOR, FOR THIS RTC.
RTC IS VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE GET A LOT OF FUNDING TO SEE THE MOST PASSES CONCERT CONDIMENT.
SO PEOPLE WILL SUB ON THAT, GOT TO HAVE SOME CONCENTRATION KNOWLEDGE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALSO HAVE THIS SMALL BUSINESS SENSE.
MAYOR LEE, UH, ADMITTED THE GREATER DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER.
I THINK WALDEN IS PERFECT FOR THAT.
THE GREATER DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER, THAT TWO CHAMBER INVOLVED WAS THE LAST DALLAS CHAMBER, WHICH HAS HAD REAL GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH US.
RAUL WHITEHEAD USED TO SERVE ON THE BOARD HIMSELF.
UM, THE OTHER THOUGHT IS A REGIONAL CHAMBER.
SO A DAS REGIONAL CHAMBER COVER BIGGER AREA.
SO, UH, I, I WOULD TRY TO PUT ME ON THAT.
HOW WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE OUT, UM, SOME OF THESE MAJOR ONES BEFORE THAT I THINK GQ WANTED US TO GO AWAY FROM.
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BUT, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE ENTIRE GROUP ABOUT, UH, UH, I WANNA, I WANNA CONTINUE AS THE LIAISON FOR THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE AND I WOULD LOVE TOM TO DO THAT WITH ME.HE AND I STARTED SOMETHING, BUT JUST GOT BOGGED DOWN WITH COVID, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME GOOD IDEAS FOR THAT.
AND, UH, I KNOW THE SCHOOLS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA WOULD BENEFIT FROM HAVING A LIAISON.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE SCHOOLS AND GEORGE W. BUSH.
NOW THE MAYOR IS IN THAT BIGGER THAN THAT, TOM DO IT APPROPRIATELY.
WE DON'T DO THAT, BUT IT'S ALL SET.
THE EDUCATION FLIPPED THE GROUP, ACTUALLY.
I DON'T, I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO DO IT, I'M WORKING OUT WITH SO WELL, I HAD SEVEN OTHERS LAST YEAR, SO I WANT TO TRY TO CUT BACK A LITTLE BIT.
SO I'LL STILL DO A WATERCOLOR.
I'LL DO THE WORK, UH, THE TEXAS COMMISSION.
SHE SAID THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH FINDING TRANSITION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I GO TO MEETINGS.
IT'S A REALLY BIG, BIG ORGANIZATION THAT IS THERE.
IF WE NEED TO HAVE A LIAISON, THERE'S NOTHING SPECIAL THAT I DO.
UM, IF, IF THE TOWN NEEDS ME TO BE A LIAISON, YOU CAN PUT MY NAME DOWN AS A LIAISON, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY.
I MEAN, I, I JUST LET HER STILL RELATIONSHIP THOUGH, THAT WE NEED TO DO THAT.
OF COURSE, CONTINUE TO FOSTER WITH AN ELECTED OFFICIAL RATHER THAN A STAFF MEMBER.
WHAT BLOOD LOOK WHEN WE GO TO THESE MEETINGS AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, REGARDLESS OF A FOREIGN LIAISON OR NOT, THEY RECOGNIZE US ALMOST A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME.
AND THEY SAY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BROWN IS HERE FROM MADISON.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE UNLESS IT'S A, UNLESS IT'S A,
YEAH, WELL THE GREATER DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER IS THE ONE I'M ON.
AND I'LL, I'LL CONTINUE TO GO TO WORLD AFFAIRS, COUNCIL MEETINGS AND GREATER DALLAS CHAMBER MEETINGS.
CAUSE I LOVE TO GO, BUT ONE PERSON THAT'S KIND OF ASSIGNED THAT TASK AND YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T FROM YOUR EXPERIENCE, WE DON'T NEED ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I'VE WORKED IN BUSINESS AT ALL.
I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THOSE MEETINGS AT ANY, ANY COUNCIL MEMBER.
AND WHAT ABOUT NORTH DALLAS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE? JUST ONE, ONE LIAISON BEING JUST GQ.
CHOOSE THE MAN ON TIMELESS BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY DOING IT.
SO, UH, LET ME REPEAT, THIS IS THAT THERE'S AS THE UPPER FOUNDATIONS DO APPALL WHATEVER YOU HAD AND THEN, UH, THEN THAT'S REQUEST CHAMBER, WE'LL TRANSITION TO KEVIN WELLER, THE SOLID SET ON THE CRIME THEATER.
HOW GIRLS DO SORT OF ON BOARD, WHAT TO TELL THEATER? YOU KNOW, I SIT ON WHAT OUR FEELS CONSOLE AND, UH, LAURIE, DO YOU WANT TO BE ON THAT TOO? I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT, I I'M, I'M, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO, IF I NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A SONG TO BE ON IT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO BE ON THERE, BUT WHEN YOU NEED ME, I CANNOT ATTEND.
I DON'T NEED TO SERVE ON THAT.
SO YOU JUST GOT, SO AGAIN, THERE'S ARE TWO TO TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE GOING TO TAKE TIME FROM IS, IS THAT THE BEST USE OF OUR TIME OR MORE COMFORTABLE, NUMBER SEVEN THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE TO SIT ON THAT THEN.
EDISON
I, I WOULD SAY, I WOULD SAY DON'T MAKE ANY
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DECISION UNTIL WE KNOW, BUT BASICALLYUM, WE SAW SOME GREAT DALLAS REGIONAL CHAMBER
GQ WAS A TEXAS COMPANY MISSION, TOM BRAH, RTC GQ.
THEN I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SILVER LINING.
SO, UM, I THINK WE DO NEED LIAISONS FOR THE ADDISON AIRPORT.
IT'S SUCH A MAJOR THING, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITY AND CATHERINE AND I DON'T WANT TO SERVE, I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO LOVE TO DO THAT.
UM, AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE THE LIAISON FROM THE 10TH.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE THE LIAISON FOR, UH, EDUCATION.
UM, AND, AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD, I KNOW WEST IS GOING TO LOOK INTO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, BUT, UM, I MEAN, I'D LOVE TO HEAR TOM'S THOUGHTS.
LET ME STOP FROM HERE BECAUSE CAN I SPEAK? YES.
UM, FOR ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN ON THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL BECAUSE IT'S AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE WE GET, UH, EXTRA TIME TO LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SANDS, UH, FINANCES AND ASK QUESTIONS AND, AND LEARN AND BE READY IF, IF WE NEED TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION WHEN THESE ITEMS SURFACE TO, UH, TO THE COUNCIL AGENDAS.
AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT TOM THINKS OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ALSO.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, I WOULD RESERVE, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO THE HISTORY OF IT, HOW IT GOT STARTED, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE BYLAWS ARE THE THING I'M JUST COMING.
I MEAN, WE GO OVER TO THE MEETINGS, YOU SEE THIS EXACT SAME STUFF, TYPICALLY THAT EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE COUNCIL SEES WHEN THEY DO QUARTERLY PRESENTATIONS IS MOST OF IT.
UM, WE DO HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION, UM, WITH FINANCE AND THE STAFF ABOUT TWEAKING CERTAIN THINGS.
AS FAR AS IF SOMETHING HAS A SOMETHING ON THERE UPON THE QUARTERLY REPORT, DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, STANDARDS STAND OUT TO US.
IT'S LIKE, WELL, WHY IS THAT PERCENTAGE THIS WAY? THEY'LL ADD FOOTNOTES TO, WITH THAT.
SO IT WAS A LOT OF THAT KIND OF STUFF.
AND THERE'S SOME IN DEPTH CONVERSATION THAT COUNCIL PEOPLE DO HAVE WITH, WITH STAFF.
SO I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE WE, WE ENDED UP HAVING THE QUARTERLY REPORTS AT THE FINANCE, AT OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
WE'VE I'VE ALREADY SPENT HOURS AND HOURS ON IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M LISTENING TO THIS, WE'RE LISTENING TO THE SAME STUFF.
WHAT WAS, YES, WE'VE DONE IT WELL TO HAVE THE FINEST COMMUNITY YOU DO EVER CHANGE.
SOMEBODY DOES EVER CHANGE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT SORT OF THINGS.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? AS FAR AS I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW WITHHOLD MY JUDGMENT UNTIL I FIGURE OUT EXACTLY.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THERE WASN'T A FINANCE COMMITTEE.
PREVIOUS TIME I WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
WE NEVER, WE DIDN'T DO IT 10 YEARS AGO, 12 YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T HAVE IT.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING NEW AND I DON'T REALLY KNOW THAT DISTRICT.
SO WHY, WHY IT CAME UP? I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT.
WHY DON'T WE LET IT WEST DO SOME INVESTIGATION, FIND OUT WHAT TO HAPPEN.
DON'T WE GO FROM THERE, FROM THIS, UH, BEFORE WE, WE ACT ON THIS AS FAR AS EDUCATION.
SO YOU SERVE ON THAT WITH VOMIT DON'T JOE THING IS CONTINUE.
DO YOU WANT TO COME TO YOUR THING? IT ISN'T NECESSARY.
I DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE ON THIS THING IS IMPORTANT THAN THAT.
DO WE HAVE STAFF THAT CAN FULFILL THAT ROLE? IS THIS NECESSARILY ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THIS POSITION? THIS IS SORT OF A, IT REALLY STARTED, I THINK IT REALLY STARTED TRUTHFULLY BACK WHEN WE FIRST GOT OUR FIRST LAWYER, WHEN BUSH WAS COMING IN H W BUSH SCHOOLS CAME IN AND I SERVED AS THAT SPOT, EVEN AFTER I TURNED OUT, BECAUSE I STARTED WHEN WE STARTED BUILDING A BUILDING.
AND SO I KIND OF STAYED IN AND EVER SINCE THEN, I THINK THERE WAS BAD DAYS OR EDUCATION BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE A SCHOOL BEFORE
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WE EVER HAD A SCHOOL IN PAM.OTHER THAN THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU, YOU KNOW, MY, MY EXPERIENCE WITH IT IS DEALING WITH THE ISD.
THAT'S MY ONLY EXPERIENCE WITH IT.
AND ALTHOUGH WE HAVE PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN ADDISON AS WELL, GREENHILL, YOU KNOW, TCA, UM, PROBABLY OTHER ONES.
I KNOW BARLAGE JUST THOUGHT WAS HE WANTS TO, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT AND TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOME SYNERGY.
THERE WAS PRIVATE SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
I, I KNOW THAT WE DON'T, THAT WE'VE EVER, THAT I'VE EVER BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, THAT WE HAD TO GREENHILL KIDS CAME OVER AND THEY TUTORED, THEY DID SOME TUTORING, TWO KIDS OVER AT GEORGE W. BUSH.
SO THERE IS SOME SYNERGY THERE.
OTHER THAN THAT, I WOULD GO TO THE ISD BEFORE PRE COVID.
WE HAVE MEETINGS ONCE A MONTH AND IT WAS WITH A COMMUNITY OF SOME TEACHERS, THE PRINCIPAL OVER THERE AND ME, BUT, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR BRIEFING, YOU KNOW, AND JUST LIKE LAST WEEK, TCA ONE WILL DO A LOT OF CAME FROM MIDDLE SCHOOL.
THEY JUST INSISTED ON THE MAYOR GOAL.
SO I JUST DRAG WEST SCHOOL WITH ME, SO GROUNDBREAKING, YOU KNOW, AND THEN EVERY TIME GOING HE'LL HAVE EXTENDED STUDENTS, THEY ALWAYS ASK ME TO SAY A FEW WORDS FRONT OF ALL THE KIDS.
SO THEN THE ISD, WHEN THEY HAVE A FUNCTION AND GEORGE H W BUSH, THEY ALWAYS LOOKING FOR ME.
SO I DON'T REALLY THINK WE NEED ANY DAYS OFF BECAUSE THEY ALWAYS WANT THE MAYOR TO BE PRESENT HIMSELF.
SO I ALWAYS TRY MY BEST TO SHOW UP.
SO I REALLY THINK THIS IS AN EMPTY TITLE AS EDUCATION LIAISON.
THEN AS FAR AS SAL PORT, DOES IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE LIAISON ANYMORE? SINCE BEFORE THOSE PEOPLE ARE CONTRACT LABOR CONTRACT WITH US NOW OUR DIRECT EMPLOYEES, QUITE, YOU NEED TO BE A LIAISON FOR
BUT IT HAS TO BECOME KIND OF POLITICAL.
I REMEMBER WHAT MEN ON THERE, TRY NOT TO HAVE THE THIRD FBO AND OPENLY SUPPORT OPPONENT DOING THOSE POLITICAL STUFF THAT WAS WRONG, JUST LIKE FAST COMMUNITY.
SOMEBODY WOULD RELEASE OUR INFORMATION OR US CHAR TO THOSE CANDIDATES, YOU KNOW? AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY NEED FOR A LEVELS THAT OPPORTUNITY.
JUST LIKE WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS THE IMPORTANT LIAISON WE HAD, WE'D SEE THE PRESENTATION AND WE MAY OFFER A, OR, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOTHING THAT WAS EXTRAORDINARY PRESENTATION WISE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT DO THAT A LOT.
I THINK WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT.
I KNOW THIS IS REDUNDANT, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, YOU TAKE AWAY A LOT OF THE TIME FROM CONSOLE MEMBERS.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT THE MAYOR SAID, PAUL OR GQ.
DID YOU EVER HAVE ANY POLITICAL ISSUES RELATED TO THE ADDISON AIRPORT? I HAVE NOT.
WE HAVE SPRINTS THAT WE DO NOW.
I, AFTER THE FACT I GOT DIRECTLY, I CAN'T SAY YES, I HAVE, IF, IS MY POSITION OUT OF THE AIRPORT? JUST CURIOUS IF YOU'VE HAD ANY POLITICAL ISSUES WHEN YOU WERE THE ADDISON AIRPORT LIAISON, I'M NOT SURE WHAT, WHAT THE CONTEXT OF THAT QUESTION IS.
I MEAN, SO, BUT, BUT THE POINT IS
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THE POINT IS POLITICS OR WHATEVER.AND I DON'T THINK THAT IT BRINGS REALLY ANYTHING.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE IN THE LAST YEAR, TWO OR THREE OTHER STAFF, PEOPLE THERE EXPLAINING ABOUT MONEY.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT COULD BE ON THE AGENDA.
AND THEN WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO MAKE ALL THE DECISIONS THE COUNCIL WAS GOING TO ASK.
THE COUNCIL WAS WHERE ALL THE AUTHORITY LIES.
AND SO LET'S JUST RECOGNIZE WHERE THE AUTHORITY LIES.
THAT'S WITH THIS GROUP IN THIS SETTING.
AND WE A BIT OF DUTY THAT PROBABLY NOTICED AND, AND, AND HELD AND CONDUCTED MEETING.
SO, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS OTHER STUFF AND I'M FOLLOWING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND ALL THIS STUFF.
SO WE NEED THIS, WE NEED TO SHIMMY THIS BACK.
ARE YOU SAYING WE DON'T DO ANY LEADERS ZONES? WE DON'T PUT WORDS IN
I'VE SAID WHAT I'VE SAID TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
LOOK AT HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND ON DISCUSSING WHO IS DOING WHAT ALONE.
I MAY REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME.
YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT IT ONE MORE TIME? ABRA FOUNDATION.
IS IT PAUL WATER THEN METRO QUEST CHAMBER OF COMMERCE HAS CATHERINE WHEELER.
ALSO WITH SOUND SAD AS HELL POOR LIAISON EDISON FARMER'S BRANCH AD HOC COMMITTEE WITH SALSA EDUCATION SOUNDS, UH, UH, THE, UH, WE DON'T NEED A BACHELOR OF PRESS MAJORS BECAUSE I'M A MEDIC TO BE THERE.
SO THERE'S NATURAL CLASS MAYORS ASSOCIATION ANYWAY.
SO I DON'T HAVE TO SPECIFY THAT.
SO, UH, AS FAR AS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, IN A WAY, WAIT UNTIL CITY MANAGERS, UH, LOOKING INTO THE ISSUES, THEN WE DON'T NEED WHAT SOULSET DOES, WHERE TO THE US REGIONAL CHAMBER, BUT JIKOS STILL CONTINUE TO BE STARS.
CHAMBER IS, UM, IN, UH, TOM STILL CONTINUE TO BE TEST COMMISSION AND THEN, UH, CHECK HERE.
SO RGC, GQ, ARE YOU OKAY WITH HAVING TWO APPOINTMENTS OR DALLAS CHAMBER? YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK I CAN DO THAT AND I'LL LET YOU KNOW IF I HAVE CHALLENGES WITH IT, BUT FROM WHAT I GATHERED FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH THE BANDWIDTH OTHER LIAISONS.
THIS SILVER LINE WAS, YOU KNOW, WE SUNSET THAT BECAUSE REMEMBER LAST TIME WE JUST PUT AN X BY EVERYONE'S NAME, WHICH MEANS IF EVERYBODY DOES IT, NOBODY DOES IT.
SO YOU WANT TO DO THE SAME THING WITH TML AND TMR ESTHER, RIGHT? SO IS IT ALL THE PASSOVER GETTING INVOLVED IN ANYTHING? OKAY.
THEN I'M INVOLVED IN TML IS IN A SPECIAL CAPACITY BECAUSE IT'S A SPECIAL INTEREST.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU DO, BUT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY PUT A TITLE OR ANYTHING ON IT BECAUSE WE ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS SO LONG.
SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, UH, CITY MANAGER WEST PIERSON TO MAKE SOME A LOSS.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN MAYOR AND COUNCIL, TRYING TO KEEP THESE AS BRIEF AS POSSIBLE.
UM, THE RETURN OF TASTE STATUS AND LAST WEEK WEEKEND WAS WHEN I WOULD SAY A BIG SUCCESS.
AND WE SOLD OUT OF GENERAL ADMISSION TICKETS ON SATURDAY AND SOLD OUT, UH, AT LEAST NINE OF OUR HOTELS HAVE RESOLVED WITH THE HOTEL PACKAGES THAT WERE SOLD AS WELL.
THAT GUESTS IN OUR RESTAURANT PARTNERS, UH, WERE HAVING A GREAT TIME UNTIL THE STORMS HIT, UH, AROUND 10:50 PM ON SATURDAY NIGHT.
UH, SO HE DID, DID MISS OUT ON OUR LAST BAND, OUR SPECIAL OFFENSE, UH, DID A FANTASTIC JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER AN EVENT THAT TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THE COVID 19 SAFETY PROTOCOLS, AND THEN PIVOTING AT THE VERY LAST MINUTE TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND OPERATIONS, TO ACCOMMODATE A FEW MORE THOUSAND.
YES, THAT'S NOT A SMALL ENDEAVOR.
I WANT TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO JASMINE LEE.
WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS
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TO HER TEAM MEMBERS.YOU SEND YOU A SALAD BAR, MONICA MARSH, AND, UH, BETHANY.
I CAN'T SAY, SAY YOUR LAST NAME, ALL THIS, AND I'M SORRY.
I WILL MAKE IT UP TO YOU FOR THEIR INCREDIBLE EFFORTS, THE ENTIRE TEAM, UH, THEIR TEAM, AND THEN ALL OF OUR STAFF, UH, EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEERS CAME TOGETHER AS THEY ALWAYS DO TO WELCOME GUESTS INTO THE PARK.
AND I COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD OF THEM ALL.
SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY FOR TASTING.
WE DO HAVE ADDISON AFTER DARK, UH, BUSY, UH, JUNE, UH, COMING UP THE EVENTS CONTINUE WITH A SEVENTIES NIGHT OUT AT ADDISON CIRCLE PARK ON SATURDAY, JUNE THE 19TH THAT'LL TAKE PLACE FROM 7:00 PM TO 11:00 PM.
WE INVITE PEOPLE TO TRAVEL BACK TO THE 1970S WITH LIVE MUSIC, A COSTUME COP CONTEST FOR THE BEST SEVENTIES THREADS AND DANCE LESSONS.
UH, THIS EVENT IS FREE AND GETTING OUT OF BURGERS IS GOING TO BE PROVIDING FREE WORK MEALS TO, UH, THE FIRST 1000 TO GUESTS.
SO WE HOPE EVERYBODY WILL SHOW UP EARLY JUNE 19TH, 7:00 PM TO 11:00 PM, UH, ANYBODY.
AND HE WANTS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS EVENT.
THEY'RE, UH, INVITED TO VISIT OUR WEBSITE, WWW.ADDISONAFTERDARK.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION, THEN RIGHT ON THE HEELS OF THAT, WE HAVE ADDISON KABOOM TOWN, WHICH WE'LL BE BACK ON JULY.
THE THIRD, OUR CAPACITY AND ADDISON CIRCLE PARK WILL BE LIMITED.
AND COMPARED TO OUR, UH, PAST YEARS, WE TYPICALLY HAVE IN PAST YEARS, I'VE HAD 25,000 PEOPLE IN THE PARK WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 19,000 IN PARK IS NEXT FOR THIS YEAR.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WE'RE WE'RE.
WE THINK IT'S STILL IMPORTANT TO, TO DO SOME SOCIAL DISTANCING BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS, UH, VACCINATED, BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT 19,000 PEOPLE.
WE WERE HOPING TO INVITE INSIDE THE PARK, UH, BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TICKETING SET UP FOR PEOPLE TO GET INTO THE PARK.
TICKETS ARE FREE AND WILL BE AVAILABLE@WWWDOTHADUSABOOMTOWN.COM BEGINNING JUNE 21ST.
AND WE ARE SETTING ASIDE A NUMBER OF TICKETS THAT ADDISON RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO RESERVE PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC TICKET PORTAL AVAILABILITY.
SO AS RESIDENTS WILL GET FIRST CHOICE, UH, TO ATTEND, UM, AND WE WILL BE SENDING, UH, POSTCARDS TO ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE MAIL WITH MORE DETAILS.
NOW THERE WILL BE MANY VIEWING AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE PARK AS WELL.
REMEMBER NOT, IT'S NOT JUST WHAT HAPPENS INSIDE THE PARK, UH, BUT WE HOPE THAT, UH, PEOPLE WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO VIEW THE FIREWORKS OUTSIDE OF THE PARK AS WELL.
UM, NOT ONLY SIDES OF ROADS AND PATCHES OF GRASS, BUT ALSO RESTAURANTS AND HOTELS AND PLACES THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAVING EVENTS SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS, UH, THIS SPECIAL EVENT.
AGAIN, THAT'S JUNE, EXCUSE ME, JULY THE THIRD IT'S A SATURDAY AND MORE INFORMATION CAN BE FOUND AT WWW W AS THREE W'S WWW DOT ADDISON, KABOOM, TOWN.COM.
AND THEN, UH, AS A REMINDER, AND FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES, THE TOWN IS HOSTING AN OPEN HOUSE FOR THE SAM'S CLUB, SPECIAL AREAS STUDY ON THIS COMING THURSDAY, JUNE THE 10TH, FROM 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS MEETING IS TO SEEK INPUT FROM AS ADIS RESIDENTS, PROPERTY AND BUSINESS OWNERS, STAKEHOLDERS, AND OTHER INTERESTED GROUPS TO CONVICT, SEND YOU THE VISIONING PROCESS FOR PROPERTIES AT THE WESTERN FRONTAGE ROAD BETWEEN BELTLINE ROAD AND HORNET ROAD.
THERE WILL BE A BRIEF PRESENTATION AT 6:00 PM, FOLLOWED BY INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS, AND THE PARTICIPANTS ARE WELCOME TO COME WHEN THEY WANT AND STAY AS LONG AS THEY CHOOSE.
SO, AGAIN, THAT'S AT THE ATHLETIC CLUB, THURSDAY, JUNE THE 10TH FROM 6:00 PM TO 8:00 PM.
AND THEN AS A REMINDER, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE HOLDING A SPECIAL STRATEGIC PLANNING, UH, MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE THE 16TH AT 6:00 PM AT THE ADDISON TREEHOUSE HERE, HOW YOU CAN VIEW THE AGENDA ON THAT, UH, FOR THAT MEETING ON THE TOWN WEBSITE THREE DAYS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, AND THEN ON JUNE THE 17TH, THE NEXT DAY, WE WILL HAVE A JOINT PLANNING, ZONING AND CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
UH, SO IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT WE WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO MAYOR COUNCIL, THOSE ARE MY ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THIS EVENING.
UM, I HAVE TO SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR, THE TASTE ADDISON IS VERY INNOVATIVE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, UM, NOT ALL OF THEM WOULD USE SQUARE, BUT THEN YOU CAN RENT OR YOU CAN BUY.
SO I BOUGHT IT BECAUSE YOU WILL READ IT.
THIS VIDEO CAN BUY IT TWO DAYS.
UH, ALSO I THINK THAT'S VERY SMART MOVE.
THEY ASKED US TO MAKE A MANUAL SO PEOPLE CAN ORDER AHEAD OF TIME, YOU KNOW, ON, ON, ON THE CELL PHONE.
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SO, UH, PEOPLE ORDER QUITE A BIT OF FOOD, THEN THEY COME SENTENCED TO INFORMATION.DO WE HAVE ANYBODY APPLYING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NOPE.
[4. Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on Property Located at 5100 Belt Line Road, Suite 544, Currently Zoned Planned Development (PD), through Ordinances 012-002 and O20-08, by Approving a Special Use Permit for a Restaurant with the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages for On-Premises Consumption Only. Case 1828-SUP - District.]
FOUR.HOLD THE POVERTY HERE REPRESENT, DISCUSS CONSIDERATION.
I ORDINANCE CHAMPION THE LOAN ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 5,100 BILL LINE ROAD, SUITE FIVE OH FOUR KODALY ZONE PLAN, PLANET DEVELOPMENT, THE PD TWO AUDIENCES ZERO ONE TWO ZERO ZERO TWO.
AND THERE WERE TWO ZERO ZERO EIGHT FIVE PROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION, ONLY CASE NUMBER OF ONE 82 EIGHT S UOP DISTRICT.
THIS IS A FULL LOCATION MERCY ONE BOX.
AGAIN, EVEN THE MERITS OF THE COUNCIL, KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TOWN ADDISON WOULD REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS, UH, FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEW RESTAURANT, UH, WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
UH, AS YOU NOTED, THAT IS AT THE FORMER MERCY WINE BAR LOCATION THAT IS, UH, IN THE VILLAGE ON THE PARKWAY, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT SPACE IS LOCATED BETWEEN THE LAZY DOG SPACE AND STERN.
UH, SO A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE ZONING FOR THIS, UH, SITE, UH, IT WAS ZONED PD OR REZONED PD, ADDITIONALLY IN 2012 OR REDEVELOPMENT, AND THAT CENTER, UH, ADDITIONAL ZONING ACTION TOOK PLACE, UH, QUITE RECENTLY IN 2020 TO ALLOW THEM TO ACCOMMODATE AN ADDITIONAL INFILL BUILDING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SITE, AND THEN DO SOME, UH, LANDSCAPE AND PARKING IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CENTER.
UM, WITH THIS REQUEST, UH, THE EXISTING SPACE DOES HAVE TWO SUP'S, ONE FOR THE ACTUAL, UM, MERCY WINE BAR, RESTAURANT SPACE, AND THEN ALSO ADDRESSING, UH, SALE OF ALCOHOL FOR HOME PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
AND THEN ONE ALSO FOR OFF SALE FOR OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
UM, THIS AS CP IS NEEDED DUE TO SOME INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT ARE POSED BY DISTRICT, UM, WHICH, UH, PRIMARILY RELATES TO RELOCATION OF THE BAR.
UH, SO DISTRICT, WE DO HAVE, UH, SOME REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE GROUP, UH, ON THE LINE WITH US TONIGHT.
UH, JOHN V ANGELICA, UH, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF DISTRICT RESTAURANT GROUP.
UH, THIS IS A CALIFORNIA BASED RESTAURANT.
THEY DO HAVE THREE LOCATIONS IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
UH, WHAT THEY PROPOSE HERE IN ADDISON WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, EXTEND THAT CONCEPT HERE, UH, THAT CONCEPT PAIRS, SHAREABLE PLATES, UH, WITH AN EXTENSIVE AND DIVERSE, UH, WINE AND WHISKEY PROGRAM.
SO WITH THE PROPOSED SPACE, THE INTERIOR FLOOR AREA WILL BE JUST OVER 3,100 SQUARE FEET.
AND THEN THERE IS AN EXISTING PATIO THAT ACCOMMODATES JUST OVER 760 16 SQUARE FEET, UH, IN TOTAL WILL ACCOMMODATE, UH, JUST OVER 130 SEATING, UH, 40 OF THAT WILL BE ACCOMMODATED ON THAT PATIO.
UH, THE PRIMARY, UH, CHANGES, UH, PROPOSED IN THE BUILDING ARE INTERIOR.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THE RELOCATION OF THE BAR, THEY WILL BE REMOVING THE SECOND FLOOR MEZZANINE ON THE EXTERIOR.
THEY'LL BE DOING SOME PAINTING AND THEN ALSO WE'LL BE RE REMOVING THE EXISTING PATIO COVER.
THEY WILL MAINTAIN THAT PATIO SPACE STAFF, UH, DID, UH, CONDUCT PUBLIC NOTICE IN ACCORDANCE WITH TOWN AND STATE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY, UH, RESPONSES, UM, PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION, UH, DID ACT ON THIS APPLICATION IN THEIR MADE MEETING AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL SEVEN ZERO.
UM, THEY DID DISCUSS, UH, SOME BROADER ISSUES RELATED TO THE BILL GEMMA PARKWAY DEVELOPMENT, UH, LOOKING AT HANDICAP PARKING AND SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE DESK ACCESS, UH, THE CONDITION THAT THE COMMISSION DID PUT ON THEIR RECOMMENDATION AND WHAT WE WOULD EXTEND TO OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL, AS WELL AS, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL NOT USE ANY TERMS OF GRAPHICS, GRAPHIC, DEPICTIONS THAT ARE LIKE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN ANY EXTERIOR SIGNAGE.
AND THEN ALSO WE'RE GOING TO DO A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING, UH, WITH OUR SEP OR CONCERNS, AND WE'LL DO THIS MOVING FORWARD AS WELL AS, SINCE MERCY'S HAS GONE AWAY.
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPEAL THOSE ORDINANCES.
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OUR ZONING MAP A LITTLE BIT AND GET RID OF DOTS ON THAT MAP.SO WITH THAT, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AND THE APPLICANT IS ON THE LINE.
SO WHAT KIND OF FOOD DISTRICTS, OR I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO LET THE APPLICANT ADDRESS IF YOU'RE AWAKE, BE FLAT OPENED UP, PROBABLY.
THE QUESTION WAS WHAT TYPE OF FOOD USER? YES.
UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT WE CALL IT GLOBALLY INSPIRE A GLOBALLY INSPIRED SHARABLE PLACE.
SO, UH, INSTEAD OF THE, UH, TRADITIONAL APPETIZER ENTREE DESSERT, UM, WE ENCOURAGE, UH, CUSTOMERS TO SHARE AN ORDER, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PLATES FOR THE TABLE.
UM, SO THE CUISINE DISCIPLINE RANGES FROM, UH, FRENCH, LATIN, ASIAN.
IT'S A PRETTY, UH, IT'S PRETTY WIDE ARRAY, UM, DESIGNED TO PAIR WELL WITH THE WIDE ARRAY OF FLAVORS THAT COME WITH WINE.
CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD, JOHN DENTAL? NOW I'M THE PRESIDENT OF DISTRICT RESCUE.
AND MORE QUESTION FOR JOB? NOPE.
SO LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM LISTED IN POVERTY, HEARING ANYONE IN WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO SO SINCE NO LIGHT PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I HEREBY CLOSE THE POVERTY HERE.
DO I HAVE MOTION SECOND MOTION FROM PAUL WALDEN IN THE SECOND PHONE, LONG WILSON, WHILE YOU IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS, WE SAY, AYE.
HOW SOON YOU'RE THINKING WE CAN OPEN IT IS SEPTEMBER WHAT HE SHARED WITH PNC.
[5. Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Granting a Meritorious Exception to Chapter 62 of the Code of Ordinances for Vitruvian West Phase II, Located at 3725 Vitruvian Way, in Order to Allow a 2,376.2 Square-Foot Mural on Portions of the East and South Facades. ]
FIVE, PRESENT DISCUSSING CONSIDER ACTION ORDINANCE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION TO CHAPTER 62 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES FOR THE TUBING WESTERN PHASE TWO, LOCATED AT THE 37 25 EIGHT TRIVIAL AWAY IN ORDER TO ALLOW A 2376.2 SQUARE FEET, UH, MURAL, UM, PORTIONS OF THE EAST TO THE SOUTH FACADE.HE MARRIED CITY COUNCIL, KEN SCHMIDT, A DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, AS HE NOTED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION FROM THE SIGN CODE.
UH, THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION, UH, THAT THIS REQUEST APPLIES TO IS THE MATURITY AND WEST, UH, PHASE TWO PROJECT.
THIS IS AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE TRIVIAL WAY AND MARSH, UH, THE, UM, BUILDING IN QUESTION, UH, IT IS, UH, RECENTLY, UH, WAS SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED BY THE APPLICANT, THE UDR, UH, THE FACADE IN QUESTION IS THAT THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE BUILDING, UH, THE PROPOSED MURAL, UH, WRAPS THAT SOUTHEAST QUADRANT BLUE BUILDING.
SO A PORTION OF THAT MURAL, UH, FACING SOUTH, UH, TOWARDS VITRUVIAN WAY, UH, AND THEN THE LARGER PORTION OF THAT MURAL, UH, PHASES EAST ALSO TOWARDS THE TRIVIAL WAY.
UH, AND IN TOTAL, THAT MURAL SIZE IS JUST OVER 2300 SQUARE FEET.
SO THE PROPOSED MURAL, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, IS, UH, 45 FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND THEN THE, AT ITS WIDEST POINT, IT IS AT 35 FEET AND, UH, ITS NARROWS, UH, FACADE IS 15 FEET IN WIDTH.
AND THERE, YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED DESIGN.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A DESIGN THAT INTEGRATES, UH, UH, SEVERAL PIECES OF OUR, UH, STATE HERITAGE NORTHERN MOCKINGBIRD, WHICH YOU SEE HERE, UH, IN THAT FLOCK OF BIRDS FLYING ALONG THE HORIZON.
AND THEN ALSO OUR STATE FLOWER, THE BLUE BONNETS, UH, AND THE APPLICANT, UH, HAS REALLY EXTENDED THAT BLUE BONNET THEME.
UH, AND YOU MAY RECALL THAT PREVIOUSLY THEY PROPOSED A AND COMPLETED A MURAL AT THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT AND VITRUVIAN WEST PHASE ONE, UH, OR THAT SAME BLUE BONNET THEME, UH, EXISTS AS WELL AS THE, UH, THAT THE DOG CLAIM, UH, CATCHING THE FRISBEE AND THE BRIDGE.
SO, UH, THIS ONE'S, AGAIN, EXTENDS THAT THEME AND THEN ALSO EXTENDS THAT SAME COLOR PALETTE USED IN THIS MURAL AND THROUGHOUT THE, UH, VITRUVIAN WEST PROJECT.
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THE TOWN'S ORDINANCE, UH, DOES, UH, ALLOW FOR MERITORIOUS EXCEPTIONS, UH, TO THE ORDINANCE.UH, AND IN THIS CASE, THIS MURAL IS CONSIDERED AN ATTACHED SIGN BY THE TOWN SIGNED ORDINANCE.
SO DUE TO THE SIZE OF THIS MURAL, THE MURAL DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ATTACHED, UH, SIGN SEGMENT OF THE CODE.
SO THAT IS WHY THE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION IS NEEDED IN THIS CASE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT, UH, THE TOWN ALLOWS FOR, UH, WITH THIS MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION CRITERIA IS IT ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF AN EXCEPTION ON THE BASIS THAT THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT, UH, FALLS UNDER THE DEFINITION OF A SIGN AND CONSTITUTE ART THAT MAKES A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO THE VISUAL ENVIRONMENT.
UH, GIVEN THAT THIS IS A MURAL, I THINK THAT IS, UH, A FAIR, UH, APPLICATION OF THIS SEGMENT OF THE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION CODE.
UH, ONE THING YOU'LL NOTE, UH, WITH THE, UH, REQUEST, THERE IS ONE PORTION OF THIS FACADE WHERE THERE'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PRESENTED.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE IN SOME, UH, SEVEN TISSUES PANELS ON THIS PORTION OF THE FACADE, UH, IN THIS, UH, FIRST OPTION, WHICH WE'LL CALL OPTION A, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO COMPLETELY COVER THAT FACADE WITH THE MURALS OF PAINTING OVER THOSE SEVEN TISHA'S PANELS, UH, THAT IS STAFF'S PREFERRED APPROACH, UH, TO THIS MURAL.
UH, BUT ALSO THERE WAS A SECOND OPTION PRESENTED, UH, IN THIS CASE, THE, UH, SEGMENTATION PANELS WERE KEPT AS IS, AND THE MURAL WAS ESSENTIALLY FILLED IN AROUND IT.
UM, SO WITH THIS REQUEST, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, UH, BASED ON THE, THE, UH, UH, INTENT, UH, THAT THIS IS MEETING THE, UH, ART, UH, AXA, UH, COMPONENT OF THE MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION REQUIREMENTS.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, OPTION A WHERE THE SEGMENTATION PANELS ARE COVERED BY THE MURAL BEST MEETS THAT WE HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
JOHN FROM UDR IS ALSO ON THE LINE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
W MR. KEN, CAN YOU TELL US HOW THE TOWN KIND OF INSURERS OR HELPS TRIES TO ENSURE THAT THE DEGRADATION OF THIS ART IS, UH, JUST KEPT AT BAY? SO ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD BE A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF PAST INSTANCES WHERE IT, UH, PLACES PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT YOU WILL, UM, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE MURALS, BUT ULTIMATELY JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SIGN, WE WOULD TREAT IT, UH, FROM A CODE ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, IF IT WAS NOT MAINTAINED PROPERLY.
SO YOU FEEL THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT ENFORCEMENT OPTIONS.
WELL, I CAN TELL YOU, IT SAYS THAT WE APPROVED THE FIRST ONE IN FALL.
WE HAD TO HAVE WEST FACE ONE WHO WAS BEAUTIFUL WITHOUT BEING TOO PUNNY.
IT DOES FLY IN FORMATION WITH HER LOVE OF ART.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW THIS MIGHT LAST, AND MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE, UM, FOUR NEEDS TO BE REDONE OR CHANGE? I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD QUESTION THAT MR. ST.
JOHN WOULD, WOULD YOU PLEASE ADDRESS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON? HI, EVERYBODY'S ROCK BECAUSE ROB ST.
JOHN, YOU ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, I WAS OUT THERE ACTUALLY A WEEK OR TWO AGO, AND YET THE ORIGINAL NEURO ONLY DID AT THE FIRST PHASE WAS ATTRIBUTING LEFT AND IT HELD UP REALLY WELL.
ONE THING I WOULD ADD IS THAT, UM, GIVEN THE VISIBILITY, UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA MAKE SURE TO MAINTAIN, UH, THE QUALITY OF THE NEURAL.
WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THE SAME UROLOGIST THAT PAINTED THE MURAL ON THE FIRST DAY.
UH, WE KIND OF TURNED OUT REALLY WELL.
UM, HE RECEIVED POSITIVE FEEDBACK RATHER THAN LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WE THINK THAT IT WILL HOLD UP WELL OVER TIME AND, UM, GET IN THE QUALITY OF THE ORIGINAL ONE YOU DID AND
DO YOU, ON THE INITIAL MURAL, WAS THAT ROUGHLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO? DO YOU RECALL WHEN THAT WAS COMPLETED? I WANT TO SAY IT WAS ABOUT 2018.
SO QUITE A BIT AROUND THE TIME WHEN, UM, THE FIRST THING TO COMPLETE HERE, WHICH WAS IN 2018, SORT OF HELD UP, UH, IN ABOUT THREE YEARS OR SO.
AND, UM, SO I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT, BUT UNTIL THAT, UH, PULLED UP WELL, OKAY, THANK YOU.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ROCK, BUT THEY DIDN'T,
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GENTLEMEN, HIM IS LISTED THE POVERTY HEARING.IF ANY WAY YOU WISH TO
HOW BROAD A SECOND FRONT LAWYER WAR ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS MERITORIOUS EXCEPTION, PLEASE SAY, AYE.
[6. Present and Discuss an Update on Addison Kaboom Town 2021. ]
PRESENT THIS LAST UPDATE.UH, EDISON, COUPLE OF TOM, 20, 21, JUST LEAVE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JASMINE LEAD DIRECTOR OF SPECIAL EVENTS AMERICAN THIS EVENING TO GO OVER AN UPDATE ON OUR PLANS FOR ADDING SIMPLE BOOMTOWN.
UM, YOU ALREADY RECEIVED DEGREE THINGS JUST A LITTLE BIT AGO, BUT I'LL HAVE A FEW MORE DETAILS TO THAT.
UM, SO ALISON COULD MOVE DOWN.
WE'LL TAKE PLACE ON SATURDAY, JULY 3RD, FROM FIVE TO 10:00 PM.
AS WE SHARED BACK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WHEN WE PROVIDED AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PLANS FOR THIS YEAR, UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR KABOOM TOWN WERE CHANGED THIS YEAR, JUST IN LINE WITH, UM, THE PANDEMIC AND MADE SOME CHANGES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING THIS 10 O'CLOCK IS TIME.
UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING ALSO IS TICKETING THE EVENT.
AND SO WHILE THE EVENT REMAINS FREE, UM, FOR ADMISSION, PEOPLE WILL NEED TO GET A FREE TICKET ONLINE IN ORDER TO GET IT THAT WILL APPLY TO ALL AGES.
UM, THIS WAS PUT INTO PLACE FOR SOME REASONS.
ONE WAS TO MAKE, TO MANAGE THE CAPACITY BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A LIMITED CAPACITY.
WE EVERY YEAR HAVE A LIMITED CAPACITY.
HOWEVER, AS YOU HAVE ALL SEEN MY SHORT, UM, WE ENDED UP WITH LARGE CROWDS OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE GATES, AND IT WAS ALWAYS A CHALLENGE FOR US TO ADDRESS THAT SITUATION BY TICKETING, THE EVENT.
IT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO KNOW BEFORE THEY LEAVE THEIR HOUSE, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN AND HOPEFULLY DRIVE THOSE WHO DON'T GET TICKETS TO THE EVENT, TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR VARIOUS RESTAURANT, WATCH PARTIES AND SENDING THEM TO OTHER LOCATIONS AND ADDISON TO ENJOY THE FESTIVAL.
ADDISON RESIDENTS WILL GET EARLY ACCESS TO THE TICKETING OF PORTION OF THE TICKETS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS IN ADVANCE.
AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THOSE ONLINE WITH A SPECIAL CODE THAT WILL BE SENT OUT VIA THE POSTCARD.
AND TICKETS WILL OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC ON MONDAY, JUNE 21ST AT 10:00 AM.
WE WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO OFFER TICKETS IN A PACKAGE FOR HOTEL BOOKINGS, AND THAT WILL BE GUARANTEED ENTERED AND THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THAT.
SO EVEN WHEN THE TICKETS THAT WE OFFER ONLINE ARE NO LONGER AVAILABLE, PEOPLE STILL WILL BE ABLE TO BOOK THE HOTEL, WHICH WE HOPE WILL ALLOW US TO SELL OUT WITH.
SOUNDS LIKE WE JUST DID STAY STATUS.
SO WITHIN THE FESTIVAL, I'M ON A MAIN STAGE.
WE WILL HAVE TWO BANDS PERFORMING THE FIRST, THE MANHATTAN BIN, WHICH IS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF JORDAN KAHN AND HIS, UM, VARIOUS MUSIC GROUPS.
AND SO IT'S HIGHER ENERGY GROUP.
UM, BIG BINS, LIKE ORANGE SHOULD BE A REALLY GOOD SHOW FOLLOWED BY WALK THIS WAY WITH IT, WHICH IS A TRIBUTE TO AEROSMITH.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE SOME FUN THERE.
WE WILL HAVE A VARIETY OF FOOD OPTIONS, UM, IN THE FESTIVAL.
UH, SO TRADITIONAL THAT WE'VE ALWAYS HAD PIZZA CORN DOGS AND WHAT NOT, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO TRY TO DIVERSIFY THAT AS WELL.
WE HAVE SOME FUN DESSERT OPTIONS OUT THERE THIS YEAR, IN ADDITION, SO SOMETHING THAT'S NEWER, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A LIVE JAZZ BAND, WELCOMING PEOPLE IN PLAYING AT THE FRONT GATES FOR THE FIRST TWO HOURS.
AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE, UM, VARIOUS PAID ACTIVITIES IN THE EVENT, WHICH INCLUDED AIRBRUSH TATTOOS AND LED PROPERTIES.
AND FOR THE FIRST TIME WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SELL MERCHANDISE AT THE EVENT.
THIS IS NOT THE BOOMTOWN SPECIFIC MERCHANDISE.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME OF YOU ACT DAY STATUS, AND THAT WE ROLLED OUT A SHIRT AND HAT THAT ARE GEARED TOWARDS ADDISON AS A WHOLE.
THEY SAY, MY TOWN IS BETTER THAN YOUR TOWN.
THEY LIST ALL OUR FESTIVALS AND WE'RE GOING TO BE SELLING THOSE LIKE ALL OF OUR EVENTS, INCLUDING NOW AND AFTER THERE.
AND OKAY, WE WILL HAVE A DEDICATED VIP AREA AT THIS EVENT.
THAT AREA WILL BE LOCATED IN ITS NORMAL LOCATION, WHICH IS INSIDE THE ADDISON CONFERENCE CENTER AND THE LUNGS SURROUNDING INSIDE.
THERE'LL BE AIR CONDITIONED SEATING AND ACCESS TO THE RESTAURANTS AND OUTSIDE.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE UMBRELLA TABLES ON THE LOAN.
WE WILL ALSO BE DOING COMPLIMENTARY CATERING THAT CATERING WILL BE, UM, PACKAGED MEALS, UM, IN LINE WITH JUST HEALTH AND SAFETY PRECAUTIONS.
OTHER THAN THE OPEN BUFFET, THEY WON'T BE HOT BOXED MEALS.
SO WE'RE NOT JUST HANDING OUT SANDWICHES
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OF IT'S ACTUALLY A BARBECUE MEAL THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY TASTY BARBECUE.UM, AND THEN OUR GUESTS WILL ALSO RECEIVE A BEER AND WINE VOUCHERS AND UNLIMITED ACCESS TO SODA AND WINE AND WILL PLAY OF THE ADDISON AIRPORT AIR SHOW.
WE'RE INTRODUCING OUR FIRST FREEDOM FLYOVER.
AND SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE A SERIES OF FLYOVERS TAKING PLACE FROM SEVEN 30 TO 9:00 PM, STARTING AT THE AIRPORT, YOU'LL SEE VARIOUS FORMATIONS, A VARIETY OF PLANES.
UM, SEVERAL OF THEM FROM THE CABIN DOG FLIGHT MUSEUM WHERE BIRDS, SOME HYPERBARIC PLANES AS WELL.
UM, THEY, THE ACROBATIC PLANES, RATHER THAN JUST DOING THE TRICKS OVER THE AIRPORT, THERE'LL BE FLYING FORMATIONS AND DOING SOME SPECIAL EFFECTS SUCH AS THE COLORED SMOKE, UM, AND SOME OTHER SPECIALTY PLANES AS WELL.
SO THESE PLANES WILL BE TAKING OFF FROM THE AIRPORT AND FLYING AROUND THAT WILL COVER ALL OF ADDISON.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY EXTEND THIS BEYOND JUST AS INCIRCLE PARK.
WHEREAS THE AIR SHOW CAN REALLY BEST TO BE SEEN FROM THE PARK.
THIS WILL BE VISIBLE FROM ANYWHERE IN ADDISON.
SO PEOPLE GO INTO THOSE WATCH PARTIES AT THE RESTAURANTS ARE GETTING A HOTEL ROOM WITH A VIEW, WILL HAVE A VIEW OF BOTH THE AERIAL COMPONENT AND THE FIREWORKS, NOT THE FIREWORKS.
AND OF COURSE THE FIREWORKS THEMSELVES ARE THE HIGHLIGHT.
AND THEY'LL START AT APPROXIMATELY 9:30 PM AND 9:35 PM.
UH, WE ARE PARTNERED WITH STAR ONE OR 2.1 AGAIN, TO DO OUR MUSIC OVER RENIA.
AND THIS SHOW HAS 25% OR SHELLS THAT OUR 2019 SHOW, WHICH WAS THE LAST ONE DONE AT THE ADDISON AIRPORT.
SO IT WILL LOOK BIGGER, BETTER, AND THE PERCENT OF SHELLS THAT ARE THE LARGEST ONES, THE FIVE AND SIX AND SHELLS HAS INCREASED TO WHERE THOSE NOW MADE UP 50% OF THE SHOW.
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY MEASURES FOR THIS EVENT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS JUST DONE.
IT TASTES AT US IN THIS PAST WEEKEND, UH, WE'LL HAVE HAND SANITIZER STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE VENUE.
WE'LL BE WIPING DOWN THE HIGH TOUCH SURFACES.
WE HAD REDUCED THE CAPACITY TO 75% OF PRE PANDEMIC LEVELS.
UH, WHILE THERE ARE NO LONGER STATE RESTRICTIONS ON CAPACITY BECAUSE THIS EVENT WAS PLANNED AT A LOWER CAPACITY LEVEL RAMPING BACK UP, TAKE SOME TIME AND RESOURCES.
AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO FROM 50% ALL THE WAY TO 100% WITH ONLY A FEW WEEKS IN ORDER TO GET ADDITIONAL RESTROOMS, FOOD TRUCKS, LIKE BACK ON A WEEKEND WHEN FESTIVALS ARE TAKING PLACE ALL OVER NORTH TEXAS.
UM, SO WE ARE ABLE TO RAMP UP TO THAT 75%, WHICH WILL ALLOW US INSTEAD OF BEING SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, WE'LL BE YELLOW NOW.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA ROOM.
UM, WE ALSO WILL BE ABLE TO USE THE CARNIVAL FIELD FOR EXPANDED SEATING.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE BEST VIEW IN THE PARK BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER TREES IN THE CARNIVAL FIELD.
SO I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BREAK THE HEAT EARLY ON TO GET THAT PRIME VIEW.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CARNIVAL FEEL TO CLARIFY IS A LONG FESTIVAL WAY, CORRECT? IT'S THE FIELD, JUST NORTH THAT FESTIVAL WAY, UH, WHERE WE HAD OUR CUPCAKE WINE GARDEN AT TOUSSAINT AND FACE COVERINGS ARE NOT REQUIRED, BUT THEY ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FULLY VACCINATED.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS YEAR'S KABOOM TOWN CELEBRATION, CAN'T WAIT.
SO DO WE GET IT? WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WE SPEAK OR IN OUR BEST.
SO I THINK WE WILL HAVE, WE WILL HAVE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO DO THE MINIMUM WE NEED TO, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE MORE THAN THAT, BUT WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE SAFETIES TO FOREMOST THE MOST IMPORTANT, GREAT, GREAT JOB.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT.
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THE GENIUS OUT WITH THE ADDISON RESIDENTS EARLY.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO MORE QUESTION.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK.
SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN CASE HE HAD SAID THAT A COUPLE OF TIMES BEING JUST A POT LESS THAN FOUR WEEKS.
SO IT'S PUT A LOT OF BURDEN ON SPECIAL EVENTS.
IT'S ACTUALLY SO MUCH BEATING THE JOKE.