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          UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL 
          [1.  Present and Discuss the Planning and Zoning Commission Annual Report for 2020.]
ALL RIGHT. 
          FIRST BOOK, SESSION ITEM, NUMBER ONE, DISCUSS THE ZONING COMMISSION ANNUALLY FOR RECORDING IN PROGRESS. 
          IS THIS WHERE YOU WANT ME SPEAK TO THE MICROPHONE? YES, SIR. 
          MAYOR COUNCIL STAFF AND FELLOW CITIZENS, BUT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS GOVERNED BY THE RULES, REGULATIONS, AND PROCEDURES OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          THESE WORLDS STIPULATE UNDER ARTICLE THREE DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION THAT THE COMMISSION WILL SUBMIT EACH YEAR, A PROGRESS REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, SUMMARIZING ITS ACTIVITIES, MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE PAST YEAR AND A PROPOSED WORK PROGRAM FOR THE COMING YEAR. 
          THE REPORT SHALL CONTAIN FOR THE YEAR, THE ATTENDANCE RECORD OF OTHER MEMBERS AND IDENTIFY THAT COMMISSION OFFICERS. 
          IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THAT REPORT ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AS YOU ARE AWARE, THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC CREATED MANY CHALLENGES THIS YEAR, AS A RESULT, THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN MEETING VIRTUALLY SINCE JUNE IN 2020 NANCY CRAIG AND CHRIS DE FRANCISCO JOINED PNC. 
          CATHERINE WHEELER SERVED AS CHAIR, AND THIS REPORT WAS COMPILED UNDER HER DIRECTION, ALONG WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF TOWN STAFF, WHERE YOU APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT AND LEADERSHIP. 
          IN THIS EFFORT, WE HELD ONLY EIGHT MEETINGS IN 2020 THAT HAD 98% ATTENDANCE. 
          ONLY ONE MEETING WAS MISSED BY ONE COMMISSIONER. 
          AND I THINK THAT SPEAKS TO THE COMMITMENT OF THE COMMISSION. 
          THE ATTENDANCE INFORMATION IS IN YOUR PACKET. 
          WE REVIEWED 14 CASES IN 2020 THAT INCLUDED SIX RESEMBLING REQUESTS, SEVENTH SPECIAL USE PERMITS IN ONE PLAT. 
          THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION FROM WHAT WE SAW IN 2019, WHERE WE HAD 22 CASES. 
          OF COURSE I WAS MOST LIKELY RELATED TO COVID. 
          SEVERAL CASES DID STAND OUT, UM, THREE IN PARTICULAR, 1807 CITY VILLAGE OFF THE PARKWAY AFTER THE DENIAL OF THE PROPOSED SITE IMPROVEMENTS AND MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT IN AUGUST OF 2019, THE OWNERS THAT VOLTAGE ON THE PARKWAY RETURNED WITH A SIMILAR SMALLER PROPOSAL FOR A TWO STORY MIXED USE BUILDING WITH RETAIL AND OFFICE USES MAIN DRIVE OUR RECONFIGURATIONS AND ADDITIONAL MONITOR SITE IN LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          THE SECOND CASE IS 1809 Z. 
          THE BAUMAN BUILDING A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS REQUESTED FOR THE BAUMANN PROPERTY LOCATED ON ARAPAHO ROAD. 
          ORIGINALLY ZONED AS A PARKING LOT EXPANSION FOR THE ADJACENT HOTEL. 
          THE REQUESTED PD WAS INTENDED TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FIVE STORY, 41,388 SQUARE FOOT MULTITENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDING WITH ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON THE TOP FLOOR BECAUSE THE TOWN HAS COMMITTED TO THE FAA REQUIREMENTS AND ITS LOCAL LAND USE DECISIONS. 
          THE TOWN CONFIRMED THAT THE FAA REQUIRES STRICT COMPLIANCE WITH THESE REQUIREMENTS. 
          AS A RESULT, THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT. 
          THE THIRD CASE IS 1816, Z ALISON SENIOR LIVING COLLEAGUE PARTNERS REQUESTED TO AMEND THE EXISTING PD DISTRICT AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF DALLAS PARKWAY AND XCEL PARKWAY TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF AN 11 STORY, 291,325 SQUARE FOOT CLASS, A SENIOR LIVING FACILITY WITH 217 UNITS AND A STRUCTURED PARKING GARAGE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THEY PROPOSED TO DEDICATE A NEW PUBLIC STREET BETWEEN ADDISON ROAD AND DALLAS PARKWAY, AND TO DEDICATE 18 FEET OF RIGHT-AWAY ALONG ADDISON ROAD, THAT IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          THE COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT, AND THEY WERE PLEASED TO PROVIDE THIS NEW HOUSING OPTION IN ADDISON. 
          WHENEVER IT GETS BUMPED, THE EMISSION WOULD BLIND TEAMMATE, THE VOLUME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE COMING YEAR. 
          FIRST TO HAVE THE COUNCIL REVISIT THE TOWN'S CURRENT POLICY PERTAINING TO THE USE OF TERMS OF GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS, RELATING TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES ON EXTERIOR SIGNAGE AND PROVIDE CLEAR DIRECTION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          AND SECOND, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION NEEDS TO REVIEW RULES THAT PROCEDURES AS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE 2004, 
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IT IS ON BEHALF OF MY FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, BOB CATTLE, ANI, NANCY CRAIG, CHRISTIE FRANCISCO, DENISE FANSLER, JOHN MELLON KEY, AND OUR NEW VICE CHAIRMAN, TOM SAUERS THAT I PRESENT THIS REPORT. 
          WE LOOK FORWARD TO A PRODUCTIVE 2021, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. 
          NO, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORT, BUT ALSO I WANT TO THANK SOME CATHERINE WIDOW, YOU KNOW, UH, SHE HAS A TOTALLY 10 YEARS IN PMC, YOU KNOW, SO I REALLY WANT TO APPRECIATE YOUR, FOR YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY, UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE THE COVID-19 OR THE ACTIVITY SLOW DOWN, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU ARE STILL DEALING DOING JOB. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          QUICK QUESTION. 
          YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU SUGGEST OR RECOMMEND THAT COUNSEL REVIEW THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE TERMS POLICY. 
          IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR FOCUS? I THINK THAT WE REALLY JUST WANT SOME CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO APPROVE OR NOT APPROVE. 
          I MEAN, THERE, THE REGULATIONS ARE PRETTY CLEAR AND YET THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. 
          SO WE JUST WANT SOME DIRECTION IN THAT IF IT'S CHANGING OR IF IT'S STAYING THE SAME, NO QUESTIONS FROM ME. 
          GREAT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, ARLENE. 
          THANK YOU, TOM. 
          I'M SOLID. 
          IF MY MORAL SUPPORT, I TEND TO NUMBER TWO, 
          [2.  Present and Discuss Addison Athletic Club Services as it Transitions from COVID-19 Operations to Normal Operations.  ]
PRESENTED THIS A LOT OF CLUBS SERVICES AS IT TRANSITIONS FROM COVID-19 OPERATIONS TO NORMAL OPERATIONS, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, JANET TIDWELL, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC FOR THE TOWN OF MADISON. 
          GIVE ME JUST A MOMENT TO OPEN UP MY PRESENTATION THIS EVENING. 
          WE'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU, UM, A DISCUSSION OF TRANSITIONING OUR OPERATIONS AT THE ALISON ATHLETIC CLUB FROM COVID-19 OPERATIONS TO NORMAL OPERATIONS IN DECEMBER, 2019. 
          UM, THE VIRUS REFERRED TO AS COVID-19 WAS FIRST DETECTED IN THE METROPLEX BY MARCH 14TH IN 2020, THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB WAS TEMPORARILY CLOSED TO SLOW. 
          THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS VIRTUAL PROGRAMS WERE OFFERED IN LIEU OF IN-PERSON GATHERINGS DURING THAT TIME AND MAY 18 OF 2020, THE AAC WELCOMED BACK MEMBERS INTO THE FACILITY WITH THE FOLLOWING ADJUSTMENTS REDUCED HOURS OF OPERATION REDUCED SERVICES AND HEIGHTENED HEALTH PROTOCOLS ON MARCH 10TH OF 2021. 
          GOVERNOR ABBOTT ISSUED EXECUTIVE ORDER GA 34, THAT FULLY OPENS ALL BUSINESSES AND ENDS THE STATEWIDE MASK MANDATE ON MARCH 11TH, 2021, AAC STAFF BEGAN DEVELOPING A PLAN TO TRANSITION FROM COVID OPERATIONS TO NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          FOLLOWING THIS ANNOUNCEMENT ON APRIL 5TH, 2021, THE CDC UPDATED GUIDANCE FOR CLEANING SERVICES OR SERVICES TO PROTECT AGAINST THE COVID BACS VIRUS STATING THAT ONCE DAILY CLEANING IS ENOUGH TO SUFFICIENTLY REMOVE THE VIRUS, EXCEPT IN CASES WHERE THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA IS MET SHARED SPACES, A LOW NUMBER OF PEOPLE WEARING MASK INFREQUENT, HAND HYGIENE AND SPACE OCCUPIED BY AT-RISK INCREASED POPULATIONS. 
          THE REASON I POINT THIS OUT IS THE REDUCED OPERATIONS AT THE ALISON ATHLETIC CLUB HAVE BEEN SET BY STAFF'S ABILITY TO KEEP THE SAME NUMBER OF STAFF HOURS THAT WE HAVE BEEN BUDGETED, UM, BUT PROVIDE THE ADDITIONAL CLEANING MANAGERS, WHICH MEANS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE MORE STAFF IN THE BUILDING 
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AT ANY TIME THAT THE BUILDING'S BEEN OPEN. 
          UM, SO THAT, THAT REALLY HAS SET THE COURSE FOR WHAT WE FOLLOWED THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC. 
          SO WHEN THE CDC MADE THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, WE FEEL LIKE THE ALISON ATHLETIC CLUB DID FALL INTO SOME OF THESE CATEGORIES. 
          THESE EXCEPTIONS IT'S A SHARED SPACE. 
          UM, ONCE OUR MEMBERS GET TO THEIR WORKOUT EQUIPMENT, THEY TAKE THEIR MASK OFF AND THEY EXERCISE. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT WEARING THEIR MASK, UM, INFREQUENT HAND HYGIENE, JUST THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING FROM ONE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT TO ANOTHER. 
          SO THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO TOUCH MULTIPLE SURFACES AND THEN OUR SPACES OCCUPIED BY A POPULATION GROUP THAT, UM, COULD BE CONSIDERED AT THE HIGH RISK CATEGORY, BUT WE UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT THINGS ARE TRANSITIONING AND WE'RE WORKING TO PREPARE FOR WHAT THOSE TRANSITIONS WOULD MEAN. 
          UM, I'VE PUT TOGETHER THIS CHART TO HELP US HAVE A DIALOGUE ABOUT OUR CURRENT OPERATIONS. 
          UM, WHAT STAFF SEES AS A TRANSITION PHASE THAT WE FILL A GAP IN BETWEEN A TIME THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO FULLY OPEN THE ATHLETIC CLUB BACK UP TO NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          CURRENTLY OUR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM. 
          AND THEN ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY, WE OPEN AT FIVE 30 AND WE CLOSE AT 7:00 PM. 
          AND ON SATURDAY WE OPEN AT 8:00 AM AND CLOSE AT 5:00 PM. 
          AND ON SUNDAY WE'RE CLOSED. 
          UM, PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, WE OPENED AT FIVE 30 EVERY MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY AND CLOSED AT 10:00 PM. 
          UM, SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN WHEN WE CLOSE A BIG GAP THERE AND WE DON'T OPEN AT FIVE 30 EVERY MORNING. 
          UM, AND THEN PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, WE WERE OPEN ON SUNDAY FROM 1:00 PM TO 6:00 PM. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE WHEN WE RETURNED BACK TO NORMAL OPERATIONS IS WE WOULD RETURN BACK TO THAT, THAT SCHEDULE, UM, IN THE INTERIM. 
          AND SO WE TRANSITIONED TO THIS, UM, AND STAFF FEELS THAT UNTIL WE CAN REDUCE OUR CLEANING PROTOCOLS SO WE CAN TAKE STUFF OFF THE FLOOR, THAT'S CLEANING EQUIPMENT, AND WE CAN PUT THEM BACK TO DOING THE JOBS THAT THEY WERE DOING PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC. 
          WE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE STAY WITH THE CURRENT HOURS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FOLLOWING. 
          UM, UNTIL WE REACHED NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          NOW WE FEEL THAT NORMAL OPERATIONS, IT MAKES SENSE TO US FOR THOSE TO OCCUR, UM, WHEN DALLAS COUNTY REACHES HERD IMMUNITY. 
          UM, THE HARD THING ABOUT THAT IS IT'S HARD FOR US TO DEFINE WHAT HERD IMMUNITY IS. 
          I THINK, UM, IF YOU LISTENED TO, I THINK WAS POINTED OUT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION MAY HAVE SAID 90%, UM, EITHER VACCINATED OR HAD HAD, UM, THE VIRUS AT ONE POINT. 
          BUT THEN I THINK I READ AN ARTICLE FROM PARKLAND HOSPITAL THAT REFERENCED 86%. 
          SO THAT NUMBER IS, IT'S A HARD ONE FOR US TO DEFINE. 
          UM, BUT HERD IMMUNITY, HERD IMMUNITY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD USE A STAFF AS A LITMUS TEST FOR WHEN WE COULD START TO PULL OFF ON SOME OF THOSE CLEANING REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE A MASK ONLY HOURS, UM, FOR TWO HOURS A DAY, THAT WAS AT A REQUEST OF OUR MEMBERS. 
          WE HAD SOME MEMBERS THAT WERE COMING THAT WERE WANTING TO COME IN AND WORK OUT, BUT THEY DIDN'T FEEL SAFE. 
          AND THEY ASKED IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE AT GROCERY STORES, UM, WHERE THERE'S A CERTAIN HOUR OF THE DAY THAT PEOPLE WEAR MASKS IN THE BUILDING. 
          AND WE THOUGHT THAT MADE A LOT OF SENSE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AND TO DO SO AFTER, UM, WE CLOSED DOWN FOR OUR CLEANING FROM TWO, THREE EVERYDAY. 
          CAUSE THAT'S THE CLEANEST, THE BUILDING IS AT ANY GIVEN TIME WHERE WE'RE REALLY NOT SEEING THOSE HOURS GETTING USED QUITE SO MUCH NOW BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE BECOME VACCINATED AND THEY'RE STARTING THE ONES THAT WERE COMING DURING OUR MASK. 
          ONLY HOURS ARE COMING DURING THE MORNING. 
          THEY'RE COMING LATER IN THE DAY. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO REDUCE THOSE MASKS ONLY HOURS TO ONE HOUR PER DAY. 
          AND THEN DURING NORMAL OPERATIONS, WE JUST WOULDN'T HAVE MASK ONLY HOURS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE CURRENTLY DO A MID DAY DEEP CLEANING. 
          AS I MENTIONED, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO DO THAT UNTIL WE RETURNED TO NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          AND THEN AT THAT POINT THAT WE WOULD CEASE DOING THE MID DAY DEEP CLEANING. 
          WE ALWAYS HAVE DONE A DEEP CLEANING AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THE ATHLETICS CLUB CLUB WAS CLOSED AND THAT WOULD CONTINUE, UM, OUTDOOR POOL HOURS. 
          OUR PREVIOUS POOL SEASON, WE DID HAVE REDUCED HOURS, UM, HAVE TUESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 12 TO 7:00 PM. 
          UM, SATURDAY FROM 12 TO 5:00 PM. 
          AND THEN WE WERE CLOSED ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY. 
          UM, WE WERE FOLLOWING THE FACT THAT THE ATHLETIC CLUB WAS CLOSED ON SUNDAY, SO WE DIDN'T OPEN THE POOL ON SUNDAYS. 
          UM, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE ALSO HAD A REALLY HARD TIME HIRING LIFEGUARDS AND SOME OF THAT WAS DICTATED BY STAFFING OF LIFEGUARDS, UM, WHERE WE'VE ALREADY HAD A LOT OF APPLICATIONS TO FILL THOSE SLOTS THIS YEAR. 
          WE DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE FOR US. 
          SO WE'RE PROPOSING DURING OUR 
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TRANSITION PHASE THAT WE WOULD BE OPEN FROM 12:00 PM TO 7:00 PM AND THEN SATURDAY AND THEN SUNDAY. 
          SO WE WOULD HAVE SUNDAY HOURS, UM, AT THE OUTDOOR POOL THIS YEAR, UM, AS WE TRANSITIONED TO NORMAL OPERATIONS AND THEN NORMAL OPERATIONS, THE BIG CHANGE IS THE, WE WOULD RETURN BACK TO THE HOURS THE POOL WAS OPEN PREVIOUSLY AND, UM, IT WOULD, IT STAYED OPEN TILL 8:00 PM AND ON WEEKDAYS AND ON SATURDAY, THE REASON DURING THE TRANSITION PHASE, WE'RE PROPOSING IT, WE CLOSED EARLIER IS WE'RE JUST FOLLOWING THE HOURS OF THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          UM, SO WE'RE MATCHING THOSE WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE. 
          THE BUILDING IS HAPPENING OUTSIDE THE INDOOR POOL. 
          WE CURRENTLY HAVE LAP SWIM ONLY, AND THE SPA IS CLOSED. 
          UM, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THAT CONTINUE FOR THE TRANSITION PHASE. 
          AND THEN WHEN WE ENTER INTO OUR NORMAL OPERATIONS, THAT WE WOULD OPEN UP FOR LAP AND OPEN SWIM, AND WE WOULD OPEN THEM SPA, UM, DAY CAMP. 
          LAST YEAR WE CLOSED AT CAMP. 
          WE DIDN'T HAVE DAY CAMP. 
          UM, WE REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF FAMILIES AND WE DIDN'T FEEL LIKE WE WOULD GET A LOT OF PARTICIPATION FROM THE SURVEY THAT WE DID AMONGST PARENTS. 
          AND AT THE TIME EVERYBODY WAS BEING VERY CAUTIOUS. 
          UM, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SENDING THEIR KIDS TO DAY CAMP, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT WE WEREN'T GOING ON FIELD TRIPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. 
          UM, THIS YEAR WE ARE PLANNING ON HAVING DAY CAMP. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE OPEN. 
          WE, WE MAY NOT GO ON FIELD TRIPS UNLESS THINGS THAT THE PLACES THAT WE'RE GOING CAN ACCOMMODATE OUR GROUP. 
          UM, BUT IF THEY WERE TO RETURN TO NORMAL OPERATIONS, WE WENT TO, SO THAT'S, THAT'S A CHANGE THAT WE HAD FROM LAST YEAR. 
          UM, CURRENTLY OUR CHILD ACTIVITY CENTERS CLOSED, UM, THE STAFF THAT WORKS, THE CHILD ACTIVITY CENTER IS PART OF THE STAFF THAT WE RELY ON TO DO SOME OF OUR SITE NEW CLEANING MEASURES. 
          UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT KEEPING THAT CENTER CLOSED UNTIL WE WENT TO NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          AND THEN WE COULD PULL THAT STAFF BACK AND PUT THEM BACK INTO THE CHILDREN, THE CHILDREN'S ACTIVITY CENTER, FITNESS CLASSES. 
          I FEEL LIKE THE STAFF AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB HAS LEARNED HOW TO DO THEIR JOB IN NEW AND EXCITING WAYS THIS YEAR. 
          UM, IN SOME OF ALL MY I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE. 
          WE, WE STARTED DOING VIRTUAL FITNESS CLASSES AND WE STARTED DOING OUTDOOR FITNESS CLASSES. 
          AND, AND IN OUR TRANSITION PHASE, WE WILL DO THAT. 
          UM, WHEN WE GET TO NORMAL OPERATIONS, WE'LL GO BACK TO IN-PERSON, BUT SOME OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE REALLY ENJOYED THE OUTDOOR YOGA CLASSES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE KIND OF SHIFTED AND CHANGED, AND YOU MAY SEE SOME OF THOSE BEING OFFERED IN ADDITION TO BRINGING OUR CLASSES BACK INTO THE BUILDING, UM, FITNESS EQUIPMENT, AVAIL AVAILABILITY. 
          IF YOU GO AN ATHLETIC CLUB RIGHT NOW, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE EVERY OTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, ALMOST SMART DOG TO ALLOW FOR THAT SIX FOOT OF SOCIAL DISTANCING, UM, WE WOULD CONTINUE TO LIVE AT THE EQUIPMENT AVAILABILITY TO ALLOW FOR SOCIAL DISTANCING. 
          UM, BUT ONCE NORMAL OPERATIONS, WE RETURNED TO NORMAL OPERATIONS, WE WOULD MAKE ALL EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE FOR USE. 
          AND THIS SCHEME IN SAUNA ARE CURRENTLY CLOSED. 
          UM, THOSE ARE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT IT'S, IT'S AN AREA THAT YOU COULD TRANSMIT THE VIRUS EASIER AND THAT TYPE OF CONDITION. 
          IT ALSO REQUIRES MORE CLEANING AFTER IT'S USED EVERY TIME. 
          AND WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD THE STAFF TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF THE OTHER CLEANING PROTOCOLS. 
          SO WE'VE HAD THE STEAM AND SAUNA CLOSED. 
          WE WOULD KEEP IT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND KEEPING IT CLOSED DURING THE TRANSITION PHASE, AND THEN WE'LL BE RETURNED TO NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          I RECOMMEND OPENING THAT BACK UP. 
          UM, OUR 50 PLUS PROGRAMS, WE'VE MOVED TO VIRTUAL ONLY PROGRAMS. THOSE HAVE BEEN REALLY SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING TO WATCH ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND SEE, UM, SOME OF OUR PARTICIPANTS TEACHING THEIR FRIENDS VIA ZOOM, HOW TO USE ZOOM. 
          AND A LOT OF IT IS THEIR GRANDCHILDREN TAUGHT THEM HOW TO DO IT. 
          AND SO THEY'VE BECOME THE TEACHERS AND, AND IT'S BEEN A FUN THING FOR US TO WATCH AND SEE, AS EVERYBODY'S KIND OF GROWN THROUGH THIS PANDEMIC, UM, WE'D CONTINUE WITH VIRTUAL ONLY CLASSES RIGHT NOW AND MOVE TO NORMAL OPERATING. 
          BUT DURING NORMAL OPERATIONS, WE'D GO BACK TO IN-PERSON. 
          UM, THE SAME THING WITH OUR CHILDREN'S PROGRAMS OUT OF SOME OUTDOORS PROGRAMS WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING THOSE RIGHT NOW, OUTDOORS, THE ONE BIG DIFFERENCE SINCE WE DID PURCHASE AN OUTDOOR IMAGINATION PLAYGROUND LAST YEAR, AND IT START POPPING UP IN THE PARKS. 
          UM, AND WE PUT THAT ON PAUSE BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. 
          SO DURING THIS TRANSITION PHASE, WE'D LIKE TO START BRINGING THAT BACK OUT AND, UM, PROGRAMMING THAT IN THE PARKS FOR CHILDREN TO USE THE ENHANCED CLEANING THAT WE'RE DOING, WE WOULD CONTINUE THAT UNTIL NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          UM, WE CURRENTLY REQUIRE A MASS TO ENTER AND EXIT THE BUILDING. 
          SO WE WOULD RE UM, CONTINUE TO REQUIRE THAT UNTIL WE RETURNED TO NORMAL OPERATIONS AND THEN COMMON AREAS 
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AND THE COMMUNITY ROOM HAVEN'T BEEN AND AVAILABLE WITH THE SOUND, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN AVAILABLE, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC TO USE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER AREA FOR OUR STAFF TO CLEAN. 
          UM, AND WE JUST, WE WERE SPREAD IN. 
          UM, SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          SO WE'VE HAD THOSE AREAS CLOSED. 
          SO WE WOULD LOOK TO OPENING UP THOSE AREAS DURING NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          AND THEN, UM, OUR LIBRARY ROOM HAS BEEN CLOSED, BUT THE VOLUNTEERS THAT RUN THAT, UM, ROOM FOR US OR THAT FACILITY HAVE OFFERED TO START WORKING IN THE LIBRARY AND MAKE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          SO WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND OPEN THAT DURING THE TRANSITION PHASE, AND THEN WE WOULD CONTINUE TO KEEP IT OPEN DURING NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          I KNOW THAT WAS A LOT TO TAKE IN. 
          WE KIND OF PUT THAT SPREADSHEET TOGETHER TO HELP YOU SEE ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ON OUR MIND OVER THIS PAST YEAR. 
          AND, UM, WE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE A GOOD TOOL TO USE, TO HAVE SOME DIALOGUE ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED AND IF WE'RE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          JEN, THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE TO ME, BUT WHAT'S THE FORECAST. 
          AND WHEN DALLAS COUNTY WOULD HIT OR DVT, IS THERE A FORECAST? SO I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT FORECAST. 
          UM, I'VE HEARD THE MONTH OF JUNE MENTIONED IN THE MONTH OF JULY MENTIONED. 
          UM, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO ALL UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S VARIABLE. 
          AND ALTHOUGH WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE JUNE OR JULY, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT OUR STAFF IS PLANNING FOR AND HOPING FOR, UM, IT, IT COULD BE AUGUST, YOU KNOW, IF, IF ALL OF A SUDDEN THE VACCINES CAN'T BE PRODUCED AS QUICKLY AS THEY WERE, AND MAYBE PEOPLE SLOW DOWN ON GETTING VACCINATED, THAT WOULD SLOW US DOWN FROM GETTING TO THAT POINT. 
          QUICK QUESTION, I'M LOOKING AT THE SCAM, JUST LOOKING AT THE SCHEDULE HERE FOR THE ATHLETIC CENTER AND NOTHING'S CHANGING WHATSOEVER ON THE INDOOR SCHEDULE IN THE TRANSITION PERIOD, AS FAR AS HOURS AND ALL THAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE POSSIBILITY OF OPENING ON SUNDAY? I MEAN, FOR, I DON'T KNOW, ONE OF THE FOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE HAVE TO ELECT TO GO ON SUNDAY AND YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE WE JUST, FOR ME, JUST FOR THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO OR UNTIL THE TRANSITION, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A BIG HURDLE TO CLIMB HERE. 
          SO WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD DISCUSSIONS AMONGST OURSELVES ON IF WE COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, COULD WE SAY OPEN A LITTLE BIT LATER OR OPEN A LITTLE EARLIER BECAUSE ON THE DAY OF, SO WE OPEN AT SEVEN, UM, BUT REALLY WHAT SETS OUR SCHEDULE IS THE NUMBER, THE SALARIES THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED. 
          SO STAFF HOURS THAT WE HAVE BUDGETED AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY TAKES TO OPERATE THE BUILDING AND, AND WEAR OUT ARE WHERE WE'RE AT AN EQUAL POINT RIGHT THERE. 
          SO IF WE OPENED UP ON SUNDAY, UM, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THAT IN OUR BUDGET TO PAY STAFF. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, AND I'M JUST MAKING THESE NUMBERS UP, BUT KIND OF TRYING TO SHOW YOU, LET'S SAY IT TOOK SIX PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING AT NOON TO OPERATE THE ATHLETIC CLUB. 
          NOW IT TAKES 10. 
          SO THAT WAS HOURS OR THAT'S WHY WE HAVE REDUCED HOURS BECAUSE WE'RE PULLING THOSE HOURS AND CONDENSING THEM INTO A SHORTER AMOUNT OF TIME THAT THE BUILDING'S OPEN. 
          SO WE COULD, OH, WE COULD DO SUNDAY. 
          IT'S JUST, WE WOULD BE OVER OUR BUDGET, OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET TO DO THAT. 
          YOU MEAN WE WOULD NEED MORE MONEY. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          I I'M, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE LIKE, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE TALKING? YOU KNOW, IF IT'S $500 A SUNDAY FOR THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, I HAVE NO IDEA. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T, I MEAN, I KNOW WHERE THAT THING THAT SHUTS DOWN FOR DEEP CLEANING FOR AN HOUR, AND I GUESS ALL STAFF THAT'S THERE. 
          IF THERE'S 10 PEOPLE THERE, THEY ALL DO THEIR THING TO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING WIPED DOWN. 
          IN THE MEANTIME YOU GOT, YOU'VE GOT TO SAY, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, I MIGHT HAVE FOUR PEOPLE WALKING AROUND AND DOING STUFF THE ENTIRE DAY, WHAT THE OTHER SIX PEOPLE DOING THEIR NORMAL, THEIR NORMAL ACTIVITIES THAT THEY NORMALLY DO. 
          BUT I MEAN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I KNOW IT WOULD BE MORE MONEY, BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE MAGNITUDE, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS. 
          I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT. 
          SO IT'S SOMETHING I CAN TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN, I CAN COME UP WITH THAT FOR YOU. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT IS WE'VE SEEN SOME OTHER, I THINK, FACILITIES THAT ARE PAID FACILITIES. 
          SO THEY'RE NOT A MUNICIPAL TYPE FACILITY THAT ARE HANDING PEOPLE, A SPRAY BOTTLE AND REQUIRING THEM TO CLEAN WHEN THEY GO IN. 
          AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO BE OPEN FOR MORE HOURS. 
          BUT WHAT WE'VE NOTICED IS PEOPLE GO IN 
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AND THEY CLEAN THE SEAT AND THEY CLEAN THE HANDLES, BUT THEY DON'T CLEAN THE LEVER THAT THEY TOUCH TO ADJUST THE WEIGHTS AND THEY DON'T CLEAN WHAT THEY DID TO ADJUST THE SEAT. 
          AND SO WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THINGS BEING TOUCHED THAT AREN'T BEING CLEANED. 
          UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE STAFF KIND OF RUNNING AROUND CONSTANTLY AS SOON AS A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT BECOMES OPEN SOMEBODY WHO'S THERE CLEANING THOSE ITEMS. JEN, I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I WOULD ALSO ADD WHAT'S BEING COMMUNICATED TO THE USERS IS THE CLEANING WIPES, UM, ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE FOR CLEANING COVID. 
          SO IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ARE YOU SAYING? THE CLEANING WIPES THAT THE USERS WOULD USE TO WIPE DOWN ALL THESE VARIOUS THINGS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIQUID WOULD KILL COVID IF IT WERE ON ALL THESE TOUCH POINTS, I'M GOING TO BRING PAT INTO THIS CONVERSATION AND COAST, UNLESS WE CHANGED THE WIPES THAT WE WERE PURCHASING, UM, THE WIPES THAT WE WERE PURCHASING WOULD KILL THE HILLWOOD. 
          AND IS THAT, DO YOU WANT TO CLARIFY FOR A SPOT PAT WHITE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF RECREATION THAT THE WHITES DO CLEAN? COVID WHAT DAN IS EXPLAINING THOUGH, IS THE USERS AND USERS ARE NOT WIPING DOWN EVERY PIECE OF PART, CORRECT? RIGHT. 
          BUT WHAT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME, UM, IS, IS THE WIPES DON'T DO THAT. 
          SO THERE MAY BE A COMMUNICATIONS ISSUE THAT WE MAY NEED TO SHORE UP, BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD THE OPPOSITE SEVERAL TIMES. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER RESIDENTS HAVE HEARD, BUT WOULD PERSONALLY BE USING THE WIPES A LOT MORE. 
          UM, AND IF I HAD KNOWN BEFORE, NOW THAT THEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE. 
          YEAH. 
          THEY MAKE A DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THE FOLKS RUNNING AROUND SPRAYING EVERYTHING UP AND DOWN, UH, CLEANING IT VERY WELL WITH, WITH THEIR, THEY'RE NOT USING THE WIPES THEY'RE USING SPRAY AND THEY'RE COMMUNICATING, UM, THAT THE WIPES DON'T DON'T KILL COAT. 
          SO YOU MAY JUST HAVE A COMMUNICATIONS ISSUE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE GOT PEOPLE NOT CLEANING UP AND DOWN AND ALL AROUND. 
          UM, AND THE OTHER PART IS, UM, PART OF IT IS THE CLEANERS ARE DOING AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB. 
          SO YOU GET UP, YOU GET UP FOR A SECOND. 
          I MEAN, THEY'VE CLEANED EVERYTHING UP AND DOWN BEFORE YOU CAN SIT BACK DOWN AND DO ANOTHER REP, WHICH IS GREAT. 
          BUT ANYWAY, WE MAY HAVE SOME COMMUNICATIONS ISSUES SHORT. 
          WE, THAT WILL BE A TOPIC AT OUR NEXT STAFF MEETINGS. 
          THAT GENTLEMAN, WE MIGHT ALSO CONSIDER MAYBE HAVING, IF WE, IF, IF WE END UP DOING THAT OR THEY GUESS CLEAN THE EQUIPMENT, MAYBE JUST GIVE HIM A LITTLE CARD OR SOMETHING THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, HERE'S WHAT TO CLEAN. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN THIS, THIS AND THIS WELL, AND PAT AND I, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS THAT WE DO NEED TO HAVE DURING THIS TRANSITION PERIOD. 
          WE NEED TO, WE, ALTHOUGH WE LIKE BEING THIS WAY, WE'VE SOLD OUR MEMBERS. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB CLEANING, BUT WE NEED TO START PREPARING THEM FOR THE FACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO PULL BACK AND WE NEED THEM TO STEP UP AND WE WANT TO USE THIS TRANSITION PERIOD TO COMMUNICATE THAT MESSAGE AND KIND OF GET GETTING THEM TO CLEANING THE EQUIPMENT, UM, MORE THOROUGHLY. 
          SO THAT'S A GREAT IDEA THAT WE COULD PUT SOME LITTLE SIGNS TOGETHER EXPLAINING WHAT ALL NEEDS TO BE WIPED DOWN. 
          AND I CAN SAY IT FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THE USERS WERE CLEANING THE EQUIPMENT MORE BEFORE COVID THAN NOW, BECAUSE OF WHAT I SHARED. 
          SO JUST HOPE THAT YOU DON'T WANT, I, I LIVE AT THE AMBULANCE, BUT THEY ALWAYS POST SOME LOCUSTS ON THE WAR, MANY AREAS. 
          SO BEFORE YOU'LL WIPE IT BEFORE AND AFTER. 
          SO NOT JUST BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE IT'S BASICALLY, YOU'RE AFRAID SOMEBODY USE IT GET IN CLINIC, BUT SO, SO YOU WANT TO CLEAN UP HERE THERE, OF COURSE HAD NO SEEDS, WELL THEY EVER TOUCH, BUT ALSO AFTER YOU'RE FINISHED USING IT, YOU FEEL CONSIDERING NOTHING. 
          YOU NEED TO CLEAN THAT. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS SEE THAT POST ON THE WAR. 
          YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, BY THE WAY, HAVE NOT, WE DON'T WHAT WOULD SUGGEST, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THAT IN A WAY. 
          SO INSTEAD OF WE HIRE ALL HAVE ALL STAFF CLEAN CONSTANTLY, IT SHOULDN'T BE DONE BY THE USERS. 
          HONESTLY, MAY I AGREE? I THINK WHAT STAFF IS SAYING IS THAT THEIR OBSERVATION, THEY ARE SEEING PEOPLE THAT DON'T DO THAT. 
          AND THOSE THAT DO IT, DON'T DO IT THOROUGHLY 
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LIKE STAFF IS DOING IT. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WE'RE OPERATING THE WAY WE ARE, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS OPERATING. 
          IF EVERYBODY'S ABLE TO COME TO A FACILITY AND FEEL SAFE AND EARLY IN THE PANDEMIC, OUR, OUR GOAL WAS TO KEEP THE ATHLETIC CLUB OPEN. 
          UM, BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED IF IT DID BECOME A SOURCE OF SPREADING THE VIRUS THAT VERY QUICKLY THE BUILDING WOULD BE CLOSED AND THE AMENITY WOULDN'T BE THERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 
          SO WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO DO WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WE COULD TO KEEP THE VIRUS OUT OF THE BUILDING. 
          AND IF IT CAME IN THE BUILDING TO KEEP IT FROM GETTING SPREAD TO OUR STAFF AND OUR MEMBERS, AND I THINK WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD TRACK RECORD THAT SHOWS THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING WAS WORKING. 
          UM, WE HAD A FEW INCIDENCES THAT WE DO KNOW OF THAT SOMEBODY WAS IN THE BUILDING THAT HAD IT AND IT NEVER, IT DIDN'T SPREAD TO ANOTHER MEMBER AND IT DIDN'T SPREAD TO A STAFF MEMBER. 
          UM, SO WE FELT THAT WHAT WE WERE DOING, WE HAVE PROOF THAT IT WAS WORKING. 
          UM, BUT I DO FEEL LIKE NOW WE ARE GETTING TO A POINT WHERE MORE PEOPLE ARE BECOMING VACCINATED, UM, THAT WE NEED TO START TO TRANSITION, TO PULLING BACK OFF OF SOME OF THOSE DUTIES THAT WE WERE DOING. 
          SO, UM, OUR STAFF WILL WORK TO FIGURE OUT AND WORK WITH MARY TO COMMUNICATE THAT MESSAGE AND KIND OF ROLL INTO THAT PHASE. 
          THAT'S SOME REALLY GOOD GUIDANCE. 
          UM, I'VE HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK OR BIG USER LOVE RADISSON ATHLETIC CLUB AND TALK TO A LOT OF FOLKS WHILE I'M THERE. 
          AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM, FROM PEOPLE IN PERSON OR PHONE CALL, WHAT HAVE YOU THAT, UH, THERE, A LOT OF THEM ARE READY TO GET BACK TO NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAD WHEN REVIEWING THIS MATERIAL IS UP ON THE TOP, RIGHT? HEADER, UH, NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          IT SAYS EFFECTIVE DALLAS COUNTY REACHES HERD IMMUNITY. 
          SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS WHO DEFINES THAT? HOW DO THEY DEFINE THAT? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, DALLAS COUNTY, UM, AND THE STATE OF TEXAS OFTEN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS FOR WHATEVER REASON. 
          AND WHAT I DON'T WANT IS FOR THE CITY TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF SOME POLITICAL ARGUMENT THAT REALLY DOESN'T SERVE ANY PRACTICAL PURPOSE, I GUESS. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, I THINK WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF IS THAT DALLAS COUNTY MAY DEFINE IT ONE WAY AND THE STATE MAY DEFINE IT ANOTHER. 
          AND THE STATE MAY INTERACT IN ENACT REGULATIONS THAT SAYS DALLAS COUNTY, YOU CAN'T DEFINE IT A CERTAIN WAY. 
          UH, SO TO, UH, THIS A LONG WAY TO SAY ONE, WE, WE DON'T KNOW YET, WHO'S GOING TO DEFINE IT AND WHAT THAT'S REALLY GOING TO LOOK LIKE. 
          AGAIN, LIKE JANA MENTIONED EARLIER, IF YOU READ THE, THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION WEBSITE, HERD IMMUNITY IS 95% VACCINATED OR IMMUNE IN SOME WAY, IF YOU ASK PARKLAND HOSPITAL, IT'S 85%. 
          IF YOU LISTEN TO DR. 
          FOWCHEE, THE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT, HE'S NOT WITH CDC, HE'S WITH ANOTHER HEALTH ENTITY, BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS BETWEEN 70 AND 85%. 
          AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE, YOU'VE GOT A, AN X NUMBER OF PERCENTAGE OF THE POPULATION OF TEXAS THAT'S VACCINATED. 
          YOU'VE GOT X NUMBER OF PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY HAD COVID AND YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT HAD IT AND ARE IMMUNE, BUT NEVER TESTED. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO HOW DO YOU DEFINE IT? WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER AND THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LONG WAY TO SAY WE DON'T KNOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE BEST INFORMATION WE CAN AND TRY TO BE REASONABLE. 
          SO THAT ONE, WE DON'T GET CAUGHT IN POLITICAL SQUABBLES AND TWO, WE CAN DO SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS. 
          SO WE DON'T KNOW WE'RE GOING TO MUDDLE THROUGH THIS, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND DO THE BEST WE CAN APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND, AND SO TO BE CLEAR THAT WHEN WE SAY DALLAS COUNTY RE WE'RE NOT LOOKING, UH, WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR DALLAS COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO DO SOME DECLARATION THAT THEY MADE NEVER DO WELL, SO THEY COULD, SO IT DEPENDS THAT THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE, BECAUSE THAT WAS COUNTY, LIKE I SAID, MAY HAVE ONE OPINION AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, WHERE THEY HAVE USED COUNTIES AS THE BENCHMARK, RIGHT? THEY USE THE TRAUMA SERVICE AREAS TO SAY, IF YOU'VE GOT A CERTAIN POSITIVITY RATE IN THIS TRAUMA TRAUMA SERVICE AREA, AND IF YOU GET CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF YOUR HOSPITALS, HOSPITAL BEDS THAT ARE FULL OF COVID PATIENTS, THEN YOU'VE GOT THAT, THAT TRIGGERED WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, UH, REQUIREMENT THAT THE STATE WOULD PUT ON US. 
          SO LET'S SAY DALLAS COUNTY AND THE 
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STATE DON'T AGREE IN, IN, IN, WE ENDED UP HAVING TO GO WITH THE STATE BECAUSE THEY, THEY, THEY DEFINE IT AND IT'S THIS TRAUMA SERVICE AREA. 
          SO IT COULD BE THAT DALLAS COUNTY MAY THINK IT SHOULD BE 95%. 
          AND THE STATE SAYS 70%, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TRAUMA SERVICE AREA AS OPPOSED TO DALLAS COUNTY, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          SO I'M JUST SKEPTICAL. 
          WHO'S GOING TO GO ON RECORD, RIGHT? WHO'S GOING TO JUMP UP THERE AND SAY, WE'RE, HERE'S THE DATA. 
          WE HAVE HERD IMMUNITY IN WHEREVER. 
          I MEAN, I SPOKE WITH COMMISSIONER COACH TODAY AND I SAID, YOU ALL HELP ME? AM I MISSING SOMETHING? HAVE YOU ALL SPOKEN ABOUT MAYBE SOME DECLARATIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN TIMES OR SOMETHING ELSE, UM, AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING, AND, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE, UM, COLLECTIVELY AS A GROUP THAT THEY WOULD COME OUT AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DECLARATION THAT, UH, AND TELL EVERYBODY AND ANNOUNCED IN, UH, IN SOME FORMAL FASHION THAT, THAT DALLAS COUNTY HAS REACH HERD IMMUNITY. 
          SO I, I APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER. 
          AND I THINK YOU, YOU ANSWERED IT. 
          IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING MORE GLOBAL THAN, THAN SPECIFIC TO DALLAS, DALLAS COUNTY. 
          WE'LL BE PAYING ATTENTION TO IT. 
          NO ONE HAS SUGGESTED A BETTER TRIGGER THEN HERD IMMUNITY, AS , EVEN THOUGH THE DEFINITION IS NOT PERFECT. 
          IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST, CORRECT? YES. 
          AND I THINK THE BIG, THE BIG THING NOW IS WHAT'S THAT PERCENTAGE IT'S KIND OF ALL OVER THE BOARD, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S SOMEBODY SAYING 95%, PROBABLY 5% OF THE PEOPLE THAT REFUSE TO GET THE VACCINE. 
          SO YOU WOULD NEVER GET IT AT 95%. 
          YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING PERCENTAGE OF VACCINATION, RIGHT. 
          BECAUSE WHAT ABOUT HERD IMMUNITY? IF 95% OF THE PEOPLE HAVE HAD IT EITHER, HAS IT, WHETHER IT'S FROM VACCINATION OR RIGHT. 
          BUT IT'S KIND OF CRAZY TO THINK THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO'VE GOT IT ARE GOING TO REPORT IT TO ALL THESE SOURCES SO THAT THEY, THAT'S NOT ON RECORD. 
          THAT'S NOT CALCULATED IN THE DATA. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          SO THAT YOU CAN'T, THAT WOULD BE HONEST. 
          WE CAN'T MEASURE THAT. 
          THAT WOULD BE AN S SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IT SENSE. 
          ALL I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, AS THIS ELECTED OFFICIAL, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE POLICY, YOU KNOW, TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE, YOU'RE MORE CAUTIOUS, MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GO TO FAR, DON'T GET SICK. 
          SO THEY, UH, BE MORE CAUTIOUS, ALWAYS EMBEDDED. 
          I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE MADE THAT DECISION ON THEIR OWN ARE DOING THAT. 
          DOING A GREAT, GREAT JOB. 
          WE'RE KEEPING THE CLUB HAS NEVER BEEN CLEANER. 
          IT WASN'T THIS CLAIM WHEN WE OPENED. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, NO, IT'S INCREDIBLE. 
          THERE, IT'S INCREDIBLY CLEAN. 
          AND, UM, AND I THINK IF WE CAN SHORE UP SOME OF THESE COMMUNICATION ISSUES, IT'S GOING TO JUST BE, UH, THAT MUCH, THAT MUCH CLEANER. 
          UM, I'VE GOT ONE OTHER THING. 
          I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT ANYBODY VIEWING I'D LOVE, LOVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. 
          SO ON THE MASS TO ENTER AND EXIT THE FACILITY, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE MASK, THE MASK ON WHEN YOU ENTER THE FACILITY AND I'M TALKING, REFERRING TO, UM, NOT THE TIME, NOT THE ONE HOUR AFTER APRIL 19TH, WHERE YOU MASK REQUIREMENT AFTER YOU, AFTER YOU ENTERED THE FACILITY WITH YOUR MASK, UM, IS IT, IS IT JUST AN INDIVIDUAL CHOICE OF HOW, HOW MUCH THEY HAVE TO HAVE THAT PASSED ON OR OFF AFTER, AFTER THEY'VE ENTERED, BEFORE THEY EXIT? SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO INDIVIDUALS AS THEY MOVE ABOUT THE BUILDING TO KEEP THEIR MOUSE ON. 
          BUT WHEN THEY GET TO THE AREA THAT THEY'RE GOING TO WORK OUT, THAT THEY TAKE THEIR MASK OFF. 
          UM, WE'VE GOT SOME KIND OF PINCH POINTS IN THE BUILDING THAT YOU'VE BEEN TURNING A CORNER AND NOT KNOW THAT SOMEBODY WAS COMING YOUR WAY. 
          AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE ASK PEOPLE TO KEEP MASK ON AS THEY MOVE ABOUT THE BUILDING. 
          UM, AND THEN TAKE THEM OFF WHEN THEY EXERCISE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, SO IS THAT CLEAR? SO IT'S CLEAR TO ME, SO WHEN YOU ACTUALLY EXERCISE IT, YOU CAN TAKE IT RIGHT WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING. 
           I GOT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, STILL PUT A MASK. 
          IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. 
          WE JUST NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT'S OCCURRED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN I THINK PART OF THAT TOO, IS JUST, I THINK PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE AND THEY DON'T PUT IT ON AND, OR THEY JUST DISAGREE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO SOME PEOPLE SAY, I THINK IT'S A SILLY THING THAT YOU MAKE, YOU WEAR A MASK TO WALK FROM POINT A TO POINT B. 
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SO ANIMAL QUESTION FOR JENNA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU, DON'T A DEAL WITH OTHER PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO PLEASE A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT WE HAVE TO DO ALL BEST, YOU KNOW, TO OUR COMPETITION. 
          SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE BEST INTEREST FOR THE USERS OR THE MEMBERS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, BEFORE I INVITED THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE A MOSMAN TO COMMENT ON YESTERDAY'S FIGHTER, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THIS THE FIRST DAY SENTENCE, SUSTAINABILITY DATE PROCLAMATION TO, UH, AUDIO ENVIRONMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MANAGER, SANDRA LONG, AND SWUNG ONE OPERATION MANAGER, SHAW SHE SHARES, RIGHT? SO LET ME READ THIS, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY IN OUR SPACE, UH, APRIL 17TH, AGAIN, AND THEN BETWEEN NOON TO 3:00 PM. 
          BUT AT THIS PROCLAMATION BASICALLY IS FOR LAST YEAR FOR HER, THEY HAVE DONE, LET ME READ IT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          PROCLAMATION OF LAND BY THE MAJOR PUMP OF EDISON AS THE FIRST DAY WAS CELEBRATED, UM, APRIL 22ND, 1970, THE GRANDCHILD OF SENATOR GAYLORD, NELSON OF WISCONSIN, WITH THE GOAL OF INSPIRING AND APPRECIATION OF OUR NATION'S NATURAL RESOURCES. 
          AND CHRIS, WE COULD LOGICAL AWARENESS THROUGH CONSERVATION AND THE PROTECTION. 
          AND WHAT AS HUMANKIND IS CURRENTLY FACING TREMENDOUS GLOBAL CHALLENGES, LARGE SCALE MIGRATION, ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE, DEGRADATION OF ECOSYSTEMS, MASS EXTINCTION OF SPECIES, AND A GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          WHY AS RESTORING OUR EARTH IS CRUCIAL TO THE SURVIVAL OF THIS PLANET AND ITS PEPPY TENTS. 
          SO THIS IS RATHER LONG. 
          SO I'M GOING TO SKIP A COUPLE SENTENCE READ THE LAST WEEK AS FIRST DAY IS AN ANNUAL REMINDER OF THE CONSTANT NEED FOR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS THAT TOM HAD TO SAY CELEBRATING FIRST DAY THROUGHOUT OUR CITY, WE ENCOURAGE OUR CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES TO USE FIRST DAY TO CELEBRATE THE EARTH, PROMOTE ATTACK, AND COMMIT TO RESTORING. 
          NOW, THEREFORE I, JOE CHILD MAYOR TOM ADDISON, AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE EARTH DAY, APRIL 17TH, 2021. 
          THIS FOR THEM. 
          ALL RIGHT, KEN, YOU'LL STEP UP. 
          OH, CENTRAL ON THE SHOP HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. 
          YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER A MONTH AGO WE PRESENTED A CHECK 1700 SOMETHING TO MEASURE, PRESS SERVICES. 
          I HOPE AFTER THIS, ARE WE GOING TO COLLECT A BIT MORE? ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          NOW I'D LIKE TO INVITE 
          [ Announcements and Acknowledgments Regarding Town and Council Events and Activities Discussion of Meetings / Events]
WEST PEARSON, OUR CITY MANAGER TO MAKE SOME LAST MONDAY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, AND APPRECIATE THE TIME FOR THIS EVENING. 
          UH, AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, WE HAD AN APARTMENT FIRE CORTLAND, ADDISON CIRCLE APARTMENTS LOCATED AT 15 SEVEN, SEVEN, SEVEN AND ADDISON CIRCLE LAST NIGHT. 
          FORTUNATELY, THERE WERE NO INJURIES. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT ALL THE RESIDENTS AND THEIR PETS WERE ABLE TO GET OUT SAFELY. 
          AND HOWEVER, ALL OF THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE IMPACTED ARE CURRENTLY DISPLACED. 
          AND SO COURTLAND MANAGEMENT AND THE TOWN ARE WORKING WITH THE RED CROSS TO HELP WITH RECOVERY RESOURCES. 
          SO RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED AND THAT ARE IN NEED, CAN CALL EIGHT SIX, SIX FIVE ZERO FIVE 48 ZERO ONE TO REACH A RED CROSS CASEWORKER. 
          AND WE'RE SHARING THAT INFORMATION IN MULTIPLE THROUGH MULTIPLE CHANNELS. 
          ALSO, THE TOWN IS ACCEPTING GIFT CARD DONATIONS AT THE ADDISON ATHLETIC CLUB, FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN HELPING ANY OF THESE DISPLACED RESIDENTS, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THE RED CROSS 
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TO GET THOSE, UH, GIFT CARDS DISTRIBUTED, UH, TO ANYBODY IN NEED IN OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT A PHENOMENAL JOB AS ALWAYS RESPONDING TO THE CALL. 
          WE WANT TO THINK IN ADDITION TO, TO THEIR GREAT EFFORTS, OUR PARTNERS IN CARROLLTON PROPEL AND FARMER'S BRANCH FOR THE AID, THEY, UH, PROVIDED TO US IN RESPONSE TO THAT, THAT, THAT FIRE. 
          THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB. 
          UH, WE ALSO WANT TO THANK PAPPY'S PET LODGE WHO JUMPED IN TO HELP HOUSE AND YOU REUNITE PETS ARE THERE THAT WERE RESCUED FROM THE BUILDING. 
          AND, UH, WE WANT TO EXPRESS OUR HEARTFELT PRAYERS TO THE MADISON RESIDENTS THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THIS. 
          SO, UH, AND NOT A GOOD DAY FOR THEM, BUT, UH, RELATIVELY SPEAKING, IT WAS A LOT BETTER THAN IT COULD HAVE BEEN. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR EVERYBODY'S OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE. 
          AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MARY. 
          ALSO, SHE SHOWED UP AND HELPED, UH, UH, NOT ONLY MADE SURE THAT OUR COMMUNICATION WITH THE MEDIA WAS ON POINT, BUT, UH, SHE ALSO, UH, WAS SAVED THE DAY BY BRINGING A LOT OF CHICK-FIL-A TRAYS TO FEED OUR FIREFIGHTERS, EVERYBODY, ALL OF THE FIRES OF THE FIREFIGHTERS FROM ALL THE OTHER AGENCIES THAT WERE THERE AS WELL. 
          AND I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 70 FIREFIGHTERS AT THE HEIGHT OF EVERYTHING FROM, FROM VARIOUS, UH, AGENCIES. 
          SO IT WAS A JOB WELL DONE. 
          AND, UH, I KNOW IT WILL BE, UH, WE'RE STILL WORKING THAT DETERMINED THE, THE, THE CAUSE OF THE FIRE. 
          AND, UH, WHEN WE KNOW THAT THAT'LL BE COMMUNICATED, BUT, UM, AND I'M REALLY IMPRESSED AS WELL. 
          UH, BEEN TOLD THAT THE CORTLAND FOLKS THEY'VE BEEN DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB HELPING THEIR RESIDENCES CAUSE WHAT ELSE? I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEM SO INTERESTING DAY. 
          UH, BUT WE DID A GOOD JOB. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR TEAM. 
          COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE 800? CERTAINLY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN NEED CAN CALL EIGHT SIX, SIX FIVE ZERO FIVE FOUR EIGHT ZERO ONE TO REACH A RED CROSS CASE WORKER. 
          ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          SO THIS MORNING, UH, DURING THE MATCH, PRESS ME OUR ASSOCIATION. 
          SO WHICH WE NORMALLY, OR THE MAYOR OR CITY MANAGER GET TOGETHER ONCE A MONTH RECENTLY IS BLOOM. 
          SO WEST PEARSON OFFICIALLY THANK ALL THE MAYORS FROM FARMER'S BRANCH AND CALL BELL. 
          AND I ECHO, SO THEY HAVE TO ASK THE QUESTION THAT I'M UNCERTAIN AS A DIRECTOR ON THE INTERNET. 
          UM, UM, UM, I'M INTERESTED TO GET AT LEAST YOUR INITIAL IMPRESSIONS, IF NOT FULL IMPRESSIONS ON, UM, HOW THE CONCEPT OF THE SINGLE DISPATCHING CENTER OPERATED AND IN MARSHALING THE RESOURCES FOR DIFFERENT SEATS INTO, AND, AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE OF A QUESTION FROM FOREIGN COMMUNICATION BETWEEN, UM, THE DIFFERENT CITIES. 
          YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN FOR YOU FREQUENCIES EXAM, YOU KNOW, SO YOU HAVE THE CONSOLIDATING COMMAND CONTROL STRUCTURE, GIVING DIRECTIONS ON FIRE TO WHATEVER EXTENT YOU HAVE CURRENT. 
          UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON. 
          SURE. 
          SO THE NORTH TEXAS EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER IS AN ENTITY THAT WAS CREATED BY THE CITIES OF ADDISON CARROLLTON CAPELL AND FARMER'S BRANCH. 
          AND IT'S BEEN OPERATING FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW, AND IT IS A CONSOLIDATED DISPATCH CENTER, UH, THAT HAS A CONSOLIDATED RADIO SYSTEM THAT HAS A CONSOLIDATED COMPUTER-AIDED DISPATCH SYSTEM. 
          AND IT HAS A CALM CONSOLIDATED, OR THEY'RE THERE, IT INTEGRATES WITH OUR RECORD MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. 
          SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A BIG ID OF THAT THAT MAKES, UH, ALL OF OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS, UH, HAPPEN AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL IN ORDER FOR THAT ALL HAPPEN. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF THAT YOU HAVE TO DO ON IN THE BACKGROUND. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE MUTUAL AID AGREEMENTS, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, WORKED THROUGH COMMUNICATIONS. 
          YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR EQUIPMENT IS INTEROPERABLE AND THAT PEOPLE CAN USE THE TOOLS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO GET THE JOB DONE. 
          UM, AND SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE THOUGHT THROUGH AND PLANNED. 
          SO THE CREATION, I BELIEVE BEFORE OUR CONSOLIDATED, UH, COMMUNICATION CENTER WAS IN PLACE, THERE WAS GOOD IN MUTUAL AID, BUT I THINK THIS IS THIS, THE, THE CREATION OF INTECH HAS CREATED SYSTEM HAS PUT THAT AT A NEW LEVEL, RIGHT? 
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SO THE, I THINK IT FACILITATES THE TYPE OF RESPONSE THAT YOU SEE, AND, AND BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN OPERATING THIS WAY FOR FIVE PLUS YEARS NOW, UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN IRON OUT KINKS AND BIG THINGS IS AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO, UM, WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY? IS IT A DIRECT RESULT OF THE DECISION THAT PEOPLE IN THE PAST MADE TO FIRST THIS AND THEN MAKE IT WHAT IT IS OR MAKE IT OPERABLE AND THEN HONE IT AS IT'S CONTINUED TO OPERATE. 
          SO, UH, IT MAKES IT A LOT BETTER THAN IT COULD BE. 
          AND OF COURSE ASHLEY WAS CERTAINLY, BUT WE NEED TO SPEAK INTO A MICROPHONE. 
          ABSOLUTELY MENTAL DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, ESPECIALLY ON THE FIRE SIDE WAS HOW LONG IT TOOK TO GET MUTUAL AID FROM ANOTHER CITY. 
          SO PRIOR TO REGIONAL DISPATCH, WHEN I WAS IN CARROLLTON, IF WE NEEDED TO SET UP AN ALARM AGAIN, MUTUAL AID, IT TOOK US ANYWHERE BETWEEN FOUR AND EIGHT MINUTES TO GET ANOTHER FIRE DEPARTMENT ROLLING TO A SEAT, BECAUSE YOU HAD TO PICK UP THE PHONE, YOU HAD TO CALL THEM, YOU BASICALLY HAD TO RE-DISPATCH THE ENTIRE CALL. 
          THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEE WHICH ONE OF THEIR UNITS THAT THEY COULD SIN AND THEN BACKFILL. 
          SO TYPICALLY WE'LL PUT TWIN BOARD AT EIGHT MINUTES. 
          THIS ALL HAPPENS NOW AUTOMATICALLY. 
          THEY KNOW WHEN THAT ALARM, EVERY TIME THAT ALARM GOES UP OR THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE, IT STARTS DISPATCHING AND STARTS. 
          BACK-FILLING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, IF WE'RE PULLING FROM CARROLLTON AND CARROLLTON KNOWS NOW AUTOMATICALLY, THEY'VE GOT IT BACK, THOUGH, WHATEVER STATION WE'RE PULLING FROM, IT IS ALL SEAMLESS AND ALMOST AUTOMATIC. 
          I MEAN, IT HAPPENS WITHIN SECONDS INSTEAD OF MINUTES. 
          SO NOT ONLY DOES THAT WORK THAT WAY, BUT IT'S ALSO CHANGED THE MINDSET SO THAT PEOPLE START TO THINK ABOUT WORKING THAT WAY. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF NOT ONLY THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF THE SYSTEM AND HOW IT'S IMPACTED THE SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS IN ALL SETTINGS, ALL THE FOREIGN STUDENTS, LIKE YOU MENTIONED. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME, I WAS WATCHING FEED FROM THE HELICOPTER NEWS STATIONS. 
          SO REALLY, AGAIN, QUITE THE VIEW AND MULTIPLE TOWER TRUCKS OR ZILLIONS OF GAMBLING OR SWATH OF THE BUILDING. 
          AND THEN I THINK ABOUT, OKAY, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A LOT OF WATER, A LOT OF WATER PRESSURE. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS WEST SIDE ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVOLVED WITH PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF WATER AT THE PROPER REFRESHERS TO, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE SPECIFICS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS PHYSICS. 
          AND, AND, AND, AND I LOOKING AT THAT FROM, FROM THE HELICOPTER VIEW, THERE'S JUST INSANE SCENE, YOU KNOW, THE COORDINATION, IT WAS, IT WAS KIND OF LIKE THE BALLET, YOU KNOW, UM, FOR, FOR, UH, I DON'T KNOW, EXCEPT FOR ONE, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN SPEAK TO ME AND IN OUR PREPAREDNESS IS A TOWN OR A WATER SUPPLY AND PRESSURE FOR THESE, THESE TYPES OF DISASTERS LIKE THIS, UH, APPRECIATES. 
          YEAH, NOT A PROBLEM. 
          WE, WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF WATER AND, UH, , WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF WATER AND WE KNOW HOW TO GET IT TO WHERE WE NEED TO QUICKLY, BUT WHAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT THIS IS THAT AS YOU MAYBE WERE WRITTEN BABY OR MAY REMEMBER THE CELESTIAL GROUND STORAGE TANK IS OFFLINE, THIS BEING RE REHABILITATED, RIGHT? AND SO OUR FOLKS PRIOR TO ANY DIRECTION FROM ANY DIRECTOR, OUR FOLKS ON THE GROUND WERE ALREADY COMMUNICATING, MEDIATING UP THE CHANNEL. 
          THEY WERE MONITORING, MONITORING, MONITORING THE WATER SITUATION TO MAKE SURE THE WORK THAT THE FIRE GUYS HAVE, THE PRESSURE, THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT THIS FIRE. 
          AND THEY WERE, THEY WERE REACHING OUT TO OUR DIRECTORS PRIOR TO ANYBODY REACHING OUT TO THEM. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S, UH, ONE, WE'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, BUT WE'VE GOT THE PEOPLE THAT PAY ATTENTION TO THESE THINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING, WE'RE SUPPORTING EVERYBODY IN THE EXECUTION OF THEIR JOB. 
          SO I'M REALLY PROUD OF THAT. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT, BECAUSE I THINK OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T HAVE MENTIONED IT, BUT THEY, THEY, OUR TEAM DID A GOOD JOB OF THINKING, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? 
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OUR FIRE TEAM IS BUSY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? AND THEY WERE MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAD WHAT THEY NEEDED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          THE OTHER THING, AND JUST TO GO BACK SPECIFICALLY TO THE RADIO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE SAID THAT SET SPEAK ENOUGH ABOUT THAT. 
          EVERYBODY WAS ON THE SAME CHANNEL LIKE THAT EVERYBODY'S USING THE SAME LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATION IS A HUGE PART OF MAKING SOMETHING LIKE THAT VALET HABITS. 
          SO THAT, THAT PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE AS WELL. 
          AND AGAIN, THE MENTALITY IS THERE TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, UM, SEAMLESSLY, UH, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE FROM DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE USING THE SAME LANGUAGE AND DOING THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY TO BE EFFECTIVE IN DOING THE JOB, RIGHT. 
          WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS THIS WAY, ABSENT THE SYSTEM AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAD. 
          SO STAYING ANYMORE. 
          YES. 
          UH, SO THAT WAS THE FIRE, UH, ON THE HAPPIER NEWS, UH, AS IT WILL BE HOSTING ITS FIRST EVER CORPORATE FIELD DAY ON MAY THE SEVENTH AT, FROM 9:00 AM TO 4:00 PM IN ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. 
          THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO, UM, COMPETE AGAINST THE COMPANIES IN ADDISON, IN A VARIETY OF GAMES THAT ARE IN BRAGGING RIGHTS AS THE BEST BUSINESS AND ADDISON, OR AT LEAST THE MOST COMPETITIVE BUSINESS IN ADDISON, RIGHT. 
          UH, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS, WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO, I KNOW THE TOWN HAS AT LEAST ONE TEAM. 
          I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER TEAMS. UH, AND ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO DETAILS AND REGISTER FOR THIS EVENT CAN DO SO ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, WWW DOT ADDISON, TEXAS.NET. 
          AND WE ARE REACHING OUT TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY THROUGH OUR, UM, OUR COMMUNICATION CHANNELS TO INVITE THEM TO DO SO. 
          AND WE'RE EXCITED TO DO THIS. 
          AND WE'RE, WE, WE THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY, REGARDLESS OF THE, THE RESPONSE, UH, FOR THIS YEAR, IT LOOKS WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED TO BUILD SOMETHING WITH THIS AND MAKE THIS A, A SOMETHING WHERE THE BUSINESS, THIS COMMUNITY CAN FEEL PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND INTEGRATED WITH. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S AN EXAMPLE ALSO ADDISON AFTER DARK RETURNS, UH, THIS WEEKEND TO ADDISON CIRCLE PARK. 
          SO SATURDAY, APRIL 17TH, WE'VE GOT, UM, YES, THEY DON'T JADE OR MOSTLY THE FIESTA IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED FIESTA, BUT THAT'S NOT GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT IN SPANISH SIDE, STRUGGLE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. 
          UH, JOIN US FOR A CELEBRATION, UH, TO COMPLETE, UH, THAT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETE WITH STREET TACOS, MARIACHIS DANCING, AND MORE, THE EVENT IS FREE. 
          AND FESTIVITIES BEGIN AT 7:00 PM. 
          THE TOWN OF ADDISON HAS TAKEN ENHANCED HEALTH AND SAFETY MEASURES TO PROMOTE A SAFE GATHERING IN ACCORDANCE WITH CURRENT GUIDELINES AND RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          AND IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN THAT, YOU CAN FIND ALL THE DETAILS@WWWDOTADDISONAFTERDARK.COM. 
          THEN FINALLY, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED AND SHARED WITH US, UH, ADDISON IS CELEBRATING EARTH DAY AND SUSTAINABILITY TODAY. 
          UM, ON APRIL THE 17TH FROM 12:00 PM TO 3:00 PM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTACTLESS RECYCLING EVENT AT THE ADDISON SERVICE CENTER. 
          DID THAT NOT TOO LONG AGO TO WITH GREAT SUCCESS. 
          UH, THE SERVICE CENTER IS LOCATED AT ONE 68 ZERO ONE WEST DRIVE WEST GROVE DRIVE THE FIRST 100 PEOPLE THAT ARRIVE WILL RECEIVE A FREE T-SHIRT AND WE'LL BE IN, UH, WE WILL ALSO BE GIVING OUT TREE SAMPLES OR SAPLINGS, EXCUSE ME, TO PLANT, UH, IN HONOR EARTH DAY. 
          UH, SO, BUT THOSE WILL ONLY AVAILABLE AS A PEST, AS LONG AS SUPPLIES LAST, YOU CAN FIND A LIST OF ALL THE ITEMS THAT WILL BE ACCEPTED FOR RECYCLING ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE AT WWW DOT ADDISON, TEXAS.NET. 
          WE ALSO HAVE WE'LL HAVE FREE ONSITE SHREDDING, UH, FOR ANYONE WHO ISN'T INTERESTED. 
          AND I, UH, HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT, UH, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT WOULD HAVE, UH, THE HARD DRIVES REMOVED OR, YOU KNOW, WIPED. 
          AND THEY MADE THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT IS NO. 
          IF YOU WANT TO HAVE, MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO DATA THAT ON YOUR HARD DRIVE, YOU NEED TO DO THAT BEFORE YOU BRING THAT TO THEM, THE RECYCLED, YOU CAN REMOVE IT YOURSELF, OR YOU CAN WIPE IT YOURSELF, BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SERVICE THAT'S PROVIDED THERE. 
          UM, ANYWAY, UH, WE ALSO, UH, WE, WE THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN OUR PEOPLE ARE DOING GOOD WORK. 
          SO THOSE ARE ALL MY ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANY QUESTIONS, BUT OTHERWISE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, WES. 
          SO NEXT ITEM 
          [ Public Comment The City Council invites citizens to address the City Council on any matter, including items on the agenda, except public hearings that are included on the agenda. Comments related to public hearings will be heard when the specific hearing starts. Citizen comments are limited to three (3) minutes, unless otherwise required by law. To address the Council, please fill out a City Council Appearance Card and submit it to a staff member prior to the Public Comment item on the agenda. The Council is not permitted to take any action or discuss any item not listed on the agenda.  The Council may choose to place the item on a future agenda.]
IS PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          SO I HAVE ONE RESIDENT, THE JACOBY FOR THE SALE FOR YOUR WORK, JUST STATE YOUR ADDRESS. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
           I'M GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRASH AND A LITTLE ABOUT POTENTIAL PROTEST ON TRASH. 
          WE GOT ALL OF ASS AND CIRCLE PARK, AND I THINK ON WEEKENDS IS LOVED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRASH THAT DEVELOPS AND THERE ON SUNDAYS, THE TRASH 
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IS OVERFLOWING. 
          I HAD BEEN TOLD THAT, WELL, STAFF'S NOT WORKING SO TOO BAD. 
          IT HAS TO WAIT UNTIL MONDAY, COME ON, MAYBE 40 BUCKS. 
          YOU GET A FRESH PAIR AND I'LL CLEAN UP TRASH. 
          IT JUST LOOKS LIKE BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON. 
          AND SO SOMEBODY COULD PICK UP THE TRASH EITHER SATURDAY NIGHT OR SUNDAY MORNING. 
          YOU BET IF IT'S ME, I WOULD ENCOURAGE IT ALL. 
          THINK ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU JUST ATTRACT HER, COACHED HER ON SUNDAY. 
          NUMBER TWO, UM, AS YOU WOULD PROBABLY KNOW IN THE NATIONAL NEWS, THE NURTURE PILE IS COMING SOON. 
          I KNOW BACK IN SEPTEMBER, I MENTIONED TO YOU, WE CAN BE PREPARED BECAUSE THIS IS A HUB OF ACTIVITY AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY ON EDGE. 
          WHERE THE OTHER CITIES, AS YOU CAN SEE, MANAGER SAID, I THINK THAT'S GREAT ABOUT THE RESPONSE TIMES, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          AND WHO'S JUST NOT ONE OF THE POINT OF POTENTIAL FAILURE, MEANING POLICE CHIEF OR CITY MANAGER. 
          BUT I MEAN, EVERYBODY IN CITY COUNCIL HAS TO BE READY AND PREPARE TO WORK WITH THE CITY BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A PLEASANT PROTEST COACH OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          AND WE JUST, JUST NEED TO BE OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          CONSENT AGENDA, 
          [ Consent Agenda All items listed under the Consent Agenda are considered routine by the City Council and will be enacted by one motion with no individual consideration. If individual consideration of an item is requested, it will be pulled from the Consent Agenda and discussed separately.]
ITEM NUMBER THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SEVEN. 
          ANYTHING NEED TO DO BEFORE I HAVE A MOTION FOR  
          [8.  Consider Action on a Resolution Approving an Economic Development Program Grant Agreement with American Trailer World Corp. and Authorizing the City Manager to Execute the Agreement in an Amount Not to Exceed $76,000.]
NUMBER EIGHT CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ACCOUNT PROGRAM RENT WITH AMERICAN TRAILER WILL CALL THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT, NOT TO EXCEED $76,000 HONORABLE MAYOR CITY COUNCIL. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          I'M UH, WE'RE A LOT OF ACCOMPLISHED DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON FAIR CONSIDERATION. 
          THIS EVENING IS A REQUEST TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE AGREEMENT WITH AMERICAN TRAILER WORLD. 
          FOR THE RELOCATION OF THEIR CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS HERE TO ADDISON, THE INCENTIVE IS VALUED AT $76,000 PAID IN THREE INSTALLMENTS. 
          YOU WILL RECALL THAT ON DECEMBER EIGHT, 2020, THIS PROJECT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU AS PROJECT TRAILER. 
          DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION AUTHORIZATION WAS GIVEN TO PROCEED WITH THE PROPOSED, WITH THE PROPOSAL, PRESENTED TO THE COMPANY AND TO NEGOTIATE AN INCENTIVE AGREEMENT WITH A COMPANY WHICH WE HAVE DONE SO 18 W AS A COMPANY IS BETTER KNOWN AS HAS AGREED TO LEASE APPROXIMATELY 26,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE AT ONE FOUR ONE THREE ONE MIDWAY ROAD ON THE 10TH FLOOR. 
          THIS BUILDING IS BETTER KNOWN AS GREENHILL TOWER. 
          THE COMPANY WILL BECOME THE LARGEST TENANT IN THAT BUILDING. 
          THEY WILL CREATE 60 JOBS IN THE FIRST YEAR AND ANTICIPATE GROWING TOO CLOSE TO 100 JOBS. 
          WITHIN THREE YEARS, AVERAGE WAGES PAID BY THE COMPANY WILL BE $125,000 ATW MANUFACTURERS AND SELLS PROFESSIONAL GRADE TRAILERS AND TRUCK BEDS, CONSUMER GRADE TRAILERS AND ENCLOSED TRAILERS UNDER SEVERAL BRAND NAMES. 
          THEY OPERATE 20 MANUFACTURING FACILITIES, 31 WHOLESALE AND RETAIL PART DISTRIBUTION SALES LOCATIONS, AND 68 RETAIL STORES THROUGHOUT NORTH AMERICA. 
          THE COMPANY ALSO ANTICIPATES GENERATING QUITE A NUMBER OF BUSINESS TRAVELERS TO ADDISON, WHICH SHOULD HELP OUR HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS. 
          I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ORLANDO. 
          UM, CAN YOU REMIND US WHEN, IF HAVE THEY MOVED IN OR THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON THE FINISHED SHOT? I THINK THEIR TARGET DATE FOR MOVING IN IS MAY 1ST. 
          WHERE ARE THEY MOVING FROM? THEY ARE MOVING. 
          UM, THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL DIFFERENT BUILDINGS IN RICHARDSON, SO THEY'RE CONSOLIDATING INTO ONE LOCATION. 
          YOU'RE IN ADDISON, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. 
          I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. 
          SECOND IN THE US. 
          AND SECOND POINT FAILURE TO APPROVE THIS 
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ITEM. 
          DCI I OPPOSE NEXT ITEM. 
          NUMBER 
          [9.  Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Establishing Minimum Standards of Care for Youth Recreation Programs Conducted by the Town for Elementary Age Children Ages 5 Through 13; Providing for Compliance with Section 42.041(b)(14) of the Texas Human Resources Code.  ]
NINE, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION. 
          I AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISH A MEETING. 
          THE STANDARDS OF CAREFUL USE RECREATION PROGRAMS CONDUCTED BY THE TIME  CIF AND MENTALLY AGE CHILDREN, CHILDREN AGES FIVE TO 17, PROVIDING FOR COMPLIANCE WITH A SESSION 42.01 B 14 OF THE TEXAS FUNERAL RESOURCES CODE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, PAT WHITE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF RECREATION OF THE TEXAS HUMAN RESOURCE CODE REQUIRES US TO BRING THIS ITEM TO APPROVE, BE APPROVED BY ORDINANCE EVERY YEAR AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THE STANDARDS OF CARE IS REQUIRED TO OPERATOR YOUTH CAMPS MAIN ONE BEING OUR SUMMER CAMP, BUT IT WILL COVER ANY CAMP THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          UH, THIS DOCUMENT HAS REQUIREMENTS FOR HIRING TRAINING, CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECKS, FACILITY STANDARDS, AND INSPECTIONS, PROGRAMMING, AND BASICALLY ANYTHING ELSE RUNNING HERE, UH, UPON SIGNING UP, WE PROVIDE THE DOCUMENT TO PARENTS FOR PARENTS THAT'S UNDER CHILD ABOUT AS WELL AS OPPOSED TO ONLINE. 
          UM, THERE'VE BEEN NO CHANGES TO THE DOCUMENT. 
          ONLY CHANGES OUR STAFF NAME WAS TITLES, SO THAT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTION SEVEN. 
          SO I HAVE A MOTION. 
          THIS IS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. 
          THIS ITEM IS LISTED POPPER HEARING. 
          IF ANYONE IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO SO ANYBODY ON THE PHONE, ALL RIGHT. 
          SINCE NO WAY PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I HEREBY CLOSE. 
          RIGHT MOTION. 
          SECOND MOTION, MODERN SENTIMENT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS IDEA, PLEASE SAY, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED BY 10, 10 
          [10.  Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Development Plan for the Development of Block A of the Addison Grove Addition, Including a Site Plan, Landscape Plan, Building Elevations and Floor Plans for 16 Townhomes and 17 Live/Work Units, in an Existing Planned Development District (PD), Through Ordinance O16-003, Located on Approximately 1.034 Acres Addressed as 4120-4126 Belt Line Road, 14991-15015 Oak Street, and 4129-4147 Runyon Road. Case 1821-Z/Addison Grove, Block A.]
BY 10, 10, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT OF BLOCK EIGHT OF THE ADDISON GROVE EDITION, INCLUDING A SITE PLAN LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND FLOOR PLANS FOR 16 TOWNHOMES AND 17 LIVE WORK AND EXISTING PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PD THROUGH ORDINANCE ZERO ONE SIX ZERO THREE. 
          LOCATED ON A POSSIBILITY 1.03, FOUR ACRES ADDRESSED AS 41, 2241 26. 
          BUILD ON GROWTH +1 499-121-5015 OAK STREET AND FOUR ONE TWO NINE TWO FOUR ONE FOUR SEVEN. 
           CASE NUMBER ONE EIGHT TWO ONE Z AS IN GIRL, BLOCK EIGHT. 
          THIS JEN, THANK YOU, MARY AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS KEN SCHMIDT. 
          I'M THE DIRECTOR'S PHONE SERVICES FOR THE TOWN OF MADISON. 
          FIRST. 
          I'D LIKE TO THANK THE TWO COMMISSION MEMBERS WHO JOINED US TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE ANNUAL REPORT. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS COMING OUT OF THAT REPORT IS CERTAINLY THAT THE 2020 WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SLOWER YEAR. 
          I THINK TONIGHT IS A GOOD INDICATOR WITH HOW MUCH YOU'LL SEE ME IN THE NEXT FEW ITEMS. AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE SOME, UH, REVERSAL OF THAT TREND, SO GOOD TO SEE ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT AND ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND ADDISON. 
          SO WITH THIS ITEM FOR YOU TONIGHT, UM, SO, UH, JUST, UH, TO START OFF THE TOWN OF ADDISON, UM, THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ZONING PROCESS THAT WE EMPLOY, IT'S REALLY A TWO-STEP ZONING PROCESS. 
          SO THE FIRST PART OF THAT PROCESS IS STERNLY CONSIDERATION AND IF APPROVED ADOPTION OF A CONCEPT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT REALLY SERVE AS THE, UH, REGULATORY FRAMEWORK, UH, FOR A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, UM, MOVING FORWARD, UH, THE SECOND PART OF THAT ZONING PROCESS IS REALLY WHERE WE ARE HERE TONIGHT IS A ACTION ON A DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          SO THAT REALLY IS EVALUATING COMPLIANCE, UH, OF DETAILED SITE PLAN, SOME MIDDLES, UM, WITH THAT REGULATORY FRAMEWORK THAT IS, UH, APPROVED, UH, WITH THAT FIRST STEP OF THE PV ZONING PROCESS. 
          SO REALLY BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A REQUEST TO CONFIRM COMPLIANCE, UH, FOR BLOCK A OF THE ADDISON GROVE EDITION. 
          UH, THIS BLOCK COMPRISES 16 TOWNHOME UNIT UNITS, AS WELL AS 17 LIVE WORK UNITS. 
          IT IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF OAK AND BELTLINE ROAD, UH, ROUGHLY 300 FEET TO THE WEST 
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OF MIDWAY ROAD, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE ALON ADDISON GROUP DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THIS AREA, UH, TO START OFF. 
          UH, SO AS YOU KNOW, UH, THIS AREA WAS FORMALLY THE SITE OF A SAM'S CLUB, UH, IN 2015, UH, THE TOWN PARTIALLY APPROVED A SPECIAL AREA STUDY, UH, FOR THE SITE THAT PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS SPECIFIC AREA IN 2016, UH, A DEVELOPMENT TEAM BROUGHT FORWARD A PD ZONING APPLICATION, UH, FOR WHAT IS NOW KNOWN AS ADDISON GROVE COMPRISED OF A, THAT FAMILY BLOCK WITH RETAIL, AND THEN ALSO, UH, TOWNHOMES AND LIVE WORK UNITS, UH, IN MAY OF 2016. 
          UH, THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE TOWN THAT INCLUDED THE PUBLIC REALM. 
          SO ALL OF THE STREETS AND THE PUBLIC PARKS, UH, THAT COMPRISED THE PROJECT. 
          AND THEN ALSO THE 57 TOWNHOME UNIT, UM, BLOCK A THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN 2017, UH, THE TOWN, UH, ALSO APPROVED AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE ALON MULTIFAMILY, UH, PROJECT AT ADDISON GROVE. 
          UH, SO CURRENTLY THAT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT IS BUILT AND OCCUPIED, MUCH OF ITS RETAIL SPACE IS OCCUPIED AS WELL. 
          AND THEN ROUGHLY 50% OF THE TOWNHOMES THAT COMPRISE A BLOCK A ARE OCCUPIED OR SOLD. 
          SO FOR BLOCK A, AS I MENTIONED, IT COMPRISES 17 LIVE WORK UNITS AND 16 TOWNHOME UNITS. 
          THE LIVE WORK UNITS ARE THE AREAS YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE THAT ARE OUTLINED IN PURPLE. 
          YOU HAVE FOUR STORY UNITS THAT FRONTS DIRECTLY ON THE BELTLINE ROAD. 
          AND THEN THE REMAINING UNITS ARE ALL THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT. 
          UH, THE TOWNHOMES ARE ALL THREE STORIES AND HEIGHTS AND THEY'RE LOCATED, THEY'RE COLORED AS ORANGE IN THIS SLIDES. 
          AND THEY'RE IN THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT OF BLOCK A, UM, FOR EACH OF THESE UNITS, THERE IS A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF TWO ALL STREET PARKING SPACES TO BE IN ENCLOSED GARAGES. 
          AND THEN ALSO YOU SEE THAT THERE'S PARKING ON STREETS THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED WITH THE INITIAL PHASE OF THE PROJECT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN REQUEST, WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN ASKED TO EVALUATE COMPLIANCE WITH THE EXISTING PD THAT GOVERNS THE ADDISON GROWTH PROJECTS. 
          WHAT WE FOUND THROUGH REVIEW BY STAFF AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN FULLY COMPLIES WITH THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, ALL STREET PARKING PARKING STANDARDS, AS WELL AS BUILDING HIGHER REQUIREMENTS, UH, INCLUDED IN THAT PD, UH, AS YOU ARE AWARE, UH, THE OPEN SPACE, UH, WAS, UH, REVIEWED AND APPROVED BACK IN 2016 WITH THE FIRST PHASE OF THIS PROJECT, UH, AND CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE PUBLIC OPEN SPACES IS ONGOING AND WILL CONTINUE TO PROGRESS AND STEP WHICH STAFF WILL MONITOR. 
          THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE REQUIRED AS PART OF THIS BLOCK ON THE EXTERIOR FACADES FOR THIS BLOCK, A COMPLY WITH TOWN AND STATE REGULATIONS AS IT RELATES TO MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THEN ONE THING YOU'LL NOTE, UH, IN THIS, UH, PD, UH, THE TOWN ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS FOR LANDMARK BUILDINGS. 
          SO THOSE ARE PROMINENT BUILDINGS THAT YOU SEE AT INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE PROJECTS. 
          AND THE FIRST LANDMARK BUILDING IN THIS BLOCK IS THAT A BELTLINE AND OAK. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND LANDMARK BUILDING LOCATION IS THAT OAK AND RUN THIS ELEVATION THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THIS SLIDE IS THAT OAK AND RUNNING AN ELEVATION, AND YOU SEE THE TREATMENT, UH, PRESCRIBED TO THAT BUILDING WITH THE, UH, WRAPPED BALCONY, AND THEN ALSO THE ENHANCED IMMUNO TREATMENTS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE FACADE. 
          FINALLY, UH, THERE ARE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE PD. 
          ONE OF THOSE IS TO PROVIDE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE BLOCK. 
          YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE FORMAL GARDEN FEATURES, UH, THAT, UH, SOME OF THE UNITS ACTUALLY FRONT-ON WITHIN THIS BLOCK. 
          AND WE FEEL THAT THAT MEETS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PD REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT CONDITION. 
          AND THEN ALSO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EVALUATE AT BUILDING PERMIT. 
          UH, THERE ARE SOME NOISE MITIGATION STANDARDS THAT RELATE TO CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS THAT WE WILL EVALUATE THE, WHEN THESE, UH, ULTIMATELY GO TO CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO, UH, THE DISCUSSION AT THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING WAS PROBABLY LESS TARGETED JUST TO THIS BLOCK AND REALLY, PROBABLY MORE CONSIDERATION FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT AND REALLY THAT DISCUSSION FOCUSED ON, ON STREET 
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PARKING, UH, WITHIN ADDISON GROVE. 
          UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE VISITED THE SITE RECENTLY, YOU'LL SEE, AND NOTICE THAT REALLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY, THE ON-STREET PARKING SPACES BUILT AROUND THE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT, BUT ALSO AROUND THE, UH, EXISTING AND SEEM TO BE DEVELOPED SINGLE FAMILY UNITS IT'S REALLY QUITE ACTIVE AND OCCUPIED. 
          AND YOU ALSO SEE THAT CONDITION, UH, ALONG BELTLINE ROAD AS WELL WITH THE RETAIL PARKING. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE SOME ISSUES THAT WE FEEL ARE KIND OF DRIVING THAT CONDITION. 
          UH, FIRST ONE REALLY RELATES TO THE, UH, GRAY STAR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO, UM, THAT PROJECT IS, UH, NEARING THE POINT WHERE IT'S FULLY LEASED. 
          IT'S AT 90% OCCUPANCY. 
          SO WHEN A MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMES ONLINE AND STARTS BEING LEASED, REALLY, THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THE STAFF AT, ON THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON GETTING PEOPLE ON THE UNITS AND GETTING THOSE UNITS LEASED. 
          THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NOW OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO TRANSITION MORE OF THEIR EFFORTS TO PROPERTY MANAGEMENT INTERESTS, SUCH AS ISSUES LIKE ON-STREET PARKING AND WHAT IS AVAILABLE AND WHAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE. 
          THE OTHER CONDITION THAT I THINK IS, IS REALLY DRAGGING THIS ISSUE IS A PANDEMIC. 
          SO WE ALL KNOW THAT OFFICES ARE CERTAINLY LESS FULL. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME, UM, EARLIER IN THE PANDEMIC, EVEN JUST GOING OUT TO EAT AND PICKING UP FOOD, WHICH WAS NOT A POPULAR OPTION EITHER. 
          OFTENTIMES YOU HAD THINGS LIKE SERVICES SUCH AS UBER EATS THAT REALLY ALLOWED YOU TO, TO, TO REMAIN AT HOME AND IN QUARANTINE FOR QUITE A BIT OF TIME. 
          SO THAT I BELIEVE HAS RESULTED IN LESS PARKING TURNOVER. 
          SO, WHEREAS DURING THE DAY YOU'D HAVE PEOPLE GOING INTO THE OFFICE, GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE AND GOING TO A RESTAURANT. 
          I THINK YOU SEE LESS OF THAT ACTIVITY. 
          NOW. 
          UM, THE FINAL ITEM THAT I WOULD THINK WOULD BE DRIVING THAT CONDITION IS NEEDED AWARENESS AS IT RELATES TO THE ADDISON GROUP PARKING STRUCTURE. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL IMAGERY, UH, FOR ADDISON GROWTH, YOU'LL SEE AT THE TOP OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE, IT'S AN EMPTY FLOOR. 
          THERE IS NO CARS PARKED OUT THERE. 
          UH, THAT IS A CONDITION THAT YOU SEE IN A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE REALLY NEED TO SEE, PARTICULARLY FROM THE GRAY STAR TEAM, UH, MORE ENCOURAGEMENT AND MORE PROMOTION OF USE OF THAT STRUCTURE IN LIEU OF TAKING UP THAT ON-STREET PARKING. 
          SO SINCE THAT PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, I DID MEET WITH IN TOWNHOMES AND GREYSTAR TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE, GRAY STAR HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT THEY NEED TO ADDRESS. 
          AND THEY'RE BEGINNING TO WORK ON, UM, SIGNAGE PACKAGE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO PROVIDE BETTER WAYFINDING TO THE PARKING STRUCTURE, BUT ALSO EDUCATION AND MORE PROACTIVE DIRECTION TO THEIR RESIDENTS TO DISCOURAGE THEM FROM PARKING ON STREET AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO PARK OFF STREET. 
          THAT IS A VERY MUCH PRIVATE SECTOR DRIVEN CONSIDERATION, AND IT'S MORE OF A PASSIVE APPROACH BY THE TOWN. 
          BUT WHILE AS SOME GROWTH IS STILL BEGINNING TO, OR STILL GOING THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE, WE FEEL THAT IT IS A GOOD APPROACH TO START OFF WITH THE, LET THEM TRY TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEMS MOVING FORWARD. 
          IF THIS CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM, THE TOWN COULD TAKE MORE PROACTIVE APPROACHES SUCH AS, UH, ACCOMMODATING PARKING RESTRICTIONS LIKE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED IN OTHER PARTS OF ADDISON. 
          YES, SIR, OF COURSE PARKING SPACES INSIDE THE GARAGE ARE GENERAL POLICY NUMBER. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? TECHNICALLY NONE ARE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC. 
          UH, THE GROUND FLOOR IS FOR RETAIL PARKING. 
          SO IF YOU WERE GOING TO ADD SOME GROWTH TO, TO UTILIZE, UH, THE RETAIL BUSINESSES, THEN THE GROUND FLOOR IS, IS AVAILABLE AND ALSO THE SURFACE PARKING IN FRONT OF MULTI-FAITH AND THEN THEY STILL HAVE A LOT OF PARKING ON THE TOP FLOOR. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU KNOW, GREYSTAR SHOULD DO, UH, SHOULD I HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LIVE ON THE TOP. 
          THEY HAVE TO PARK ON THE TOP. 
          SO EACH STORY AND A FORCE FAUCET, THEY HAVE TO HAVE IT A FOURTH. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY THEY CHOOSE TO LEAVE A HEIGHT, THEN YOU HAVE TO PARK. 
          SO THEIR ONLY CONCERN IS SOMETIME YOU HAVE VISITORS. 
          SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK THEY'RE PROBABLY RANDOM. 
          AND THEY HAD ACKNOWLEDGED THAT ISSUE. 
          IT'S, IT'S HURTING THEM AS WELL. 
          UM, AT THEIR RETAIL FRONTAGE ON BELTLINE, MOST OF THEIR RESIDENTS ARE PARKING MARY. 
          THAT IS, THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE GETTING THEIR TEETH CLEANED OR GETTING THEIR NAILS DONE. 
          IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF RESIDENT PARKING 
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AND THEY WANT TO CORRECT THAT AND THEY HAVE SPACES AVAILABLE TO CUSTOMERS AT THAT LOCATION. 
          SO THE OTHER ISSUE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP AFTER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UM, THIS IS NOT A FORMAL REQUEST AT THIS TIME, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BROUGHT, BEEN BROUGHT TO STAFF'S ATTENTION. 
          AND WE WANT TO BE, UH, YOU TO BE INFORMED IN THE EVENT THAT CHANGE OCCURS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT, UH, FOLLOWING THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN REVIEW. 
          SO, UH, THE IN TOWN HOMES TEAM REACHED OUT TO STAFF ON MARCH 30TH TO, UH, SHARE IN DESIGN FLAW THAT THEY IDENTIFIED WITH OUR LIVE WORK UNITS. 
          AND THAT DESIGN FLAW IS IN THAT MIDDLE BLOCK OF LOCK A, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT MIDDLE BLOCK AND BLOCK EIGHT. 
          IT'S THE AREA IN RED, UH, CIRCLE ON THIS SLIDE. 
          AND ESSENTIALLY DUE TO THE GRADE CHANGE THROUGH THE SITE, THEY'RE RUNNING INTO ISSUES WITH BEING ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE ADA COMPLIANT, ACCESS TO THE LIVE WORK UNITS THAT COMPRISE THAT BLOCK. 
          SO AS A RESULT, THEY HAVE REQUESTED CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE, UH, TO CONVERT THOSE, UH, THE WORK UNITS TO TOWNHOMES. 
          UM, WE'VE ADDRESSED THIS WITH IN TOWN HOMES BY, UM, FIRST ENCOURAGING THEM TO SEE IF THEY CAN CORRECT THAT DESIGN ISSUE AND TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE LIVE WORK UNITS AS PLANNED, BUT DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN FACILITATE THAT THE SECOND BEST OPTION THAT WE'VE PRESENTED TO THEM. 
          AND THIS IS AN OPTION THAT THEY HAVE SINCE COMMUNICATED THAT THEY CAN AND INTEND TO SUPPORT IS THE SIMPLY RELOCATE THOSE FOUR LIVE WORK UNITS INTO AN, TO ANOTHER PORTION OF THE SITES. 
          AND THAT WOULD LIKELY BE BLOCK C OR BLOCK THE, UH, THAT WOULD MAINTAIN THE SAME NUMBER OF LIVE WORK UNITS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY ZONED AND ARE INCLUDED IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          THEY JUST, WOULDN'T ALL BE IN THE SAME LOCATION FROM A ZONING AND ADMINISTRATION STANDPOINT. 
          THAT IS A CONSIDERATION THAT MEETS THE TALENT'S REQUIREMENTS OR ADMINISTRATIVE ZONING APPROVAL. 
          SO IF THEY MADE THAT CHANGE IN LAND USE, UH, THROUGH A FORMAL APPLICATION PROCESS, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE APPROVED BY STAFF VERSUS SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO BACK TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          GIVEN THAT ISSUE IS WHAT, EXCUSE ME AS WELL, WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH YOU AND THE COMMISSION WERE AWARE OF THAT CHANGE CAN HAVE A PORTION ON THAT. 
          THAT THAT'S A TWO FOOT FIVE PLUS. 
          SO OTHER BOARD WOULD BE GOING TO ANOTHER BUILDING FOR INSTANCE, WOULD THAT THEN INCREASE THE HEIGHT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T. 
          I BOUGHT THE BABY AND MENTIONED THAT IT MIGHT BE, UH, THE BUILDINGS BE, MAY BE CHANGING THESE IN THE WORK WITH THAT, WITH IT BEING MOVED TO THAT LOCATION, WOULD IT CHANGE THE HEIGHT? SO LEAVING WORK LEAVE WORK NORMALLY IS FOUR-STAR RIGHT. 
          SOME OF THEM, IT CAN BE FOUR STORIES. 
          SO I WROTE REFERRING TO IS MAYBE IS THIS BUST THAT IT'S A TWO FOOT FIVE INCH BUS? WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY CANNOT PROVIDE WHAT'S REQUIRED FOR ADA IN THE LOCATION THAT YOU'RE SHOWING IS IF THIS LOCATION MOVES TO ANOTHER BUILDING, WILL THAT AFFECT THE HEIGHT OF THAT OTHER BUILDING? IT WOULD BE TO A BUILDING THAT'S NOT BUILT YET. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, SO IF, IF IT DID AFFECT THE HEIGHTS, BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS CAN BE AS HIGH AS FOUR STORIES, WHAT'S BEING RELOCATED, PROPOSED TO BE RELOCATED AS A THREE-STORY BUILDING, IT WOULD STILL COMPLY WITH THE PD REQUIREMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO MY QUESTION WAS PROBABLY BEFORE THAT ONE. 
          SO JUST CLARIFY FOR ME THAT IN BLOCK A, THE RED AREA, THEN I WOULD POTENTIALLY BE, UH, JUST THE REGULAR THREE STORY TOWNHOME UNITS, INSTEAD OF THE FOUR STORY LIVE, WORK UNITS. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS. 
          AND, AND TO CLARIFY THE, THE ONLY FOUR STORY LIVE UNITS ARE THOSE RIGHT THERE, THESE, THESE AND THESE ARE OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO BEHIND CANES AND THAT BEHIND CANS ON THE TOP PURPLE BLOG THERE, IS THAT WHAT YOU CAN SEE? YES. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          HEY KEN, THERE'S A, WHAT LIKE A TWO AND A HALF FOOT GRADE DIFFERENCE? 
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OR DID YOU SAY BUSTED? I MEAN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT IN LAYMAN'S TERMS FOR ME? SO, YES, IT'S A GREAT DIFFERENCE. 
          SO AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THAT PORTION OF THE SITE WHERE THEY HAVE THE TWO BLOCKS, TWO HALF BLOCKS OF LIBERTY UNITS RIGHT HERE. 
          SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT HALF BLOCK AND THAT HALF BLOCK IS TWO AND A HALF FEET IN ELEVATION, I'VE NEVER NOTICED THAT IT JUST SEEMS EXTREME. 
          I'VE JUST, I'M SURPRISED TO NOTICE THAT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND, AND SO IF BUILDING THREE, IF WE, IF WE CHANGE THAT FROM LIVE WORK, PLAY TO A TOWNHOME, UM, AND THEN WE, WE PUT ANOTHER LIVE, WORK, PLAY BUILDING SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          I GUESS WHAT I'M THINKING OF AS A LIVE WORK BUILDING IS SOMETHING WHERE SOMEBODY LIVES UP ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS UP ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR. 
          AND, BUT THE FLOOR IS RETAIL. 
          AM I, AM I MISS? I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU CAN, YOU CAN LIVE AND WORK, UM, ANYWHERE, RIGHT? SO THE, THE WAY THE ZONING IS WRITTEN, UH, IT, YOUR FIRST PART OF YOUR STATEMENT, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 
          THAT WAS A PERSON WHO, UH, HAS A BUSINESS AND THE GROUND FLOOR ALSO HAS TO BE THE OCCUPANT OF THE OTHER FLOORS, RIGHT? WITH THE LIVE WORK UNITS. 
          I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, UH, MORE OF A USE PATTERN AND TRENDS TOWARDS MORE LIKE, UH, SAY LIKE AN ART STUDIO OR AN ARCHITECT'S OFFICE, OR AN ENGINEER, THE RETAIL, OR HAVING RETAIL IS A CHALLENGE ONE BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT IT ACCOMMODATES AND TO ALSO THE VISIBILITY, UH, PARTICULARLY, UM, WITH THE BLOCK THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING FROM A TRADITIONAL RETAIL STANDPOINT, AND YOU CAN HAVE RETAIL IN A CONDITION LIKE THIS AND BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          IT'S MORE UNUSUAL, BUT YOU DON'T REALLY HAVE THAT VISIBILITY THAT YOU WOULD GET FROM THE DRIVE BY TRAFFIC. 
          SO THAT'S MORE LIKELY TO BE LIKE A THERAPIST OFFICE OR SOMETHING, SOMETHING MORE ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          UM, I GUESS, UM, WITH THAT IN MIND, I'M MISSING THE POINT OF THE LIVE WORK, BECAUSE I CAN DO THAT JUST PARTICULAR IN ANY ONE OF THOSE TOWNS. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO YOU COULD NOT DO THAT IN ANY ONE OF THOSE TOWNS. 
          YOU COULDN'T HAVE YOUR OWN SMALL BUSINESS IN A TOWN HOME, AND ALSO LIVING IN THAT. 
          SO AS A, AS A FORMAL BUSINESS LOCATION, AS AN ACTUAL, UH, SPACE FOR SAY, OFFICE OR OTHER NONRESIDENTIAL USE, YOU COULD NOT DO THAT AT A TOWN HALL. 
          WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, IS FROM MY PRACTICAL STANDPOINT, UH, PEOPLE CERTAINLY DO DO BUSINESS OUT OF THEIR HOMES. 
          IT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT'S FORMERLY PERMITTED FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, THIS IS DIFFERENT IN THAT ZONING ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATES THAT NON-RESIDENTIAL USE IN THE GROUND. 
          SO, WHICH IS MORE OF A, LIKE A RETAIL APPLICATION, NOT NECESSARILY, THIS IS JUST A BUSINESS AS A BUSINESS APP, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE CUSTOMERS POTENTIALLY COMING TO THE LOCATION WHERE THERE HAS IN YOUR HOME. 
          THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN. 
          IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE, WE STOP FROM HAPPENING, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD HAPPEN TO LIVE WORK UNITS ACTUALLY SAY, THIS IS A PLACE OF BUSINESS ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR. 
          YOU HAVE TO COME HERE. 
          AND THE ISSUE HERE WITH THIS GREAT CHANGE IS ACTUALLY AN ADA ISSUE. 
          YOU CAN, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ADA ISSUES WITH THE TOWNHOMES. 
          YOU HAVE THE ADA ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE GRADE WITH THE LIVE WORK UNITS. 
          AND THAT'S THE DIFFICULTY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE. 
          I GET IT. 
          AND THERE'S A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT, UM, YOU DON'T HAVE CUSTOMERS COMING TO YOUR PHYSICAL BUSINESS. 
          SO I GUESS THE THOUGHT I HAD IS I DON'T GET THE, OF HAVING A LIVE WORK PLACE. 
          CAN WE, CAN YOU SHOW A BIGGER VISUAL THE WHOLE, WHOLE PROJECT? YEAH. 
          SO WHERE WOULD YOU PUT IT IF YOU MOVED IT OUTSIDE OF BLOCKADE? WHERE, WHERE WOULD THAT, WHERE WOULD THAT BE AND WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? I THINK RIGHT NOW YOUR, YOUR BEST OPPORTUNITIES ARE IN BLOCK C AND BLOCK D DUE TO THE FACT THAT BLOCKADE IS, IS UNDERDEVELOPED, OR EXCUSE ME, BLOCK B IS UNDER DEVELOPMENT AND MODERATELY PERMITTED. 
          UM, I THINK DUE TO THE UNIQUENESS OF THE LIVE WORK PRODUCT AND THAT IT'S NOT YOUR TRADITIONAL RETAIL SPACE, IT'S, IT'S A SPACE THAT IS NON-RESIDENTIAL IN NATURE, BUT IT'S REALLY, UH, FOR FOLKS THAT REALLY HAVE A, A VERY KNOWN NEED, IT'S NOT DEPENDENT ON DRIVE BY TRAFFIC LIKE A CONVENTIONAL RETAIL SPACE. 
          SO I THINK, AND I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH IT REALLY GOING TO ANYWHERE IN THOSE 
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OTHER WALKS YOU WOULD JUST SORT OF, SO I GUESS YOU COULD PUT IT NEAR THE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, UP THERE ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BLOCK C OR BLOCK D IS THAT A KIND OF A THOUGHT YOU COULD SERVE? UH, YOU COULD CERTAINLY PUT IT NEXT TO THE OPEN SPACE AS WELL. 
          UH, IN BLOCKSI YOU SEE A LOT WHERE THESE ARE VERY UNIQUE, UH, HOUSING TYPES, WHERE YOU DO SEE THEM AS MORE OF A MIXED USE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND OFTENTIMES IT'S, IT'S VIEWED AS A PROMINENT FEATURE BECAUSE IT HAS A LITTLE BIT BETTER ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENT. 
          SO HAVING A PROMINENT PLACE LIKE FRONTING ON THE OPEN STAYS IS ACTUALLY A VERY GOOD TREATMENT OF THAT HOUSING TYPE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND IF WE PASS THIS TONIGHT AT, AS IT'S BEEN SUBMITTED, UM, WHAT WOULD THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? UM, IF THE DEVELOPER SAID WE'VE GOT SOME LIVE WORKPLACES, WE WANT TO SPRINKLE IN BLOCK C BUCKET, WHERE WOULD THAT COME BACK TO COUNCIL? OR WOULD THAT JUST BE STABBED? HOW WE WOULD TRADITIONALLY HANDLE SIMILAR REQUESTS? IT WOULD NOT COME BACK TO CPC COUNSEL BECAUSE IT'S A FAIRLY MINOR CHANGE FROM MY LAND USE AND SITE PLANNING STANDPOINT. 
          IT'S GENERALLY THE SAME BUILDING ENVELOPE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TRADITIONAL RETAIL USE. 
          THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE A LOT OF TRAFFIC. 
          AND BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ONLY IMPACTING ADDISON GROVE, UH, DUE TO THE LIMITED INTENSITY OF THAT USE, IT COULD BE ADDRESSED ADMINISTRATIVELY. 
          IF I READ THE WRITE UP CORRECTLY, THERE'S REALLY NOT A CHOICE IN APPROVAL, AS LONG AS THEY MEET THE REGULATIONS, CORRECT FOR WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, IF THEY COMPLY WITH THE PD STANDARDS, YOU SHOULD APPROVE THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS CHANGE IN THE LIVE WORK UNITS? IT'S NOT A FORMAL REQUEST YET, BUT WE WANTED TO GET THAT ON RADAR. 
          SO IT'S NOT A SURPRISE OR, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD, UH, UH, IF STAFF KNOWS, WE CERTAINLY WANT YOU TO KNOW IF WE CHANGE THE ONE, THE ONE BUILDING QUESTION IN QUESTION, WOULD THAT STILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR DETAILED SITE PLANS? SO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS, THE PD WOULD BE AMENDED ADMINISTRATIVELY TO ADOPT A NEW CONCEPT PLAN, REFLECTING THAT CHANGE, BUT IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE IN LINE WITH THE ZONING THAT'S ALREADY PERMITTED. 
          SO AS A, AS A POINT OF COMPARISON, OR PERHAPS NOT, OR ARE THERE ANY OF THESE TYPES OF UNITS, NOT NECESSARILY FOR STORY AND ADDISON CIRCLE, FOR SOME REASON, I WAS THINKING ALONG MORE OR SOMEWHERE, UH, THERE MIGHT BE A BLOCK. 
          DOES ANYBODY, IS IT, OR IS THIS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND AND ALLISON, I AM NOT PERSONALLY AWARE OF ANY LIBERTY UNITS IN THIS FORM. 
          SO I'M NOT EITHER, I THINK THIS IS IT'S VERY UNIQUE HOUSING, EVEN IT'S IN MY MIND, THIS IS A REALLY, IS A REALLY COOL CONCEPT, BECAUSE IF YOU THINK ABOUT, ESPECIALLY NOW, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT MAYBE AN ACCOUNTING OFFICE OR AN ENGINEERING OFFICE, A SMALL, A SMALL OFFICE OF WHATEVER, AND YOU'RE DOWNGRADING BECAUSE OF COVID FALL OUT. 
          YOU COULD MOVE YOUR OFFICE INTO THE, INTO THE TOWNHOME AND LIVE UPSTAIRS AND SAY, SAVE A LOT OF MONEY. 
          OR EVEN FOR A STARTUP JUST GETTING STARTED. 
          THEY WANTED PROOF PROOF OF CONCEPT OR SOMETHING. 
          AND THIS IS A REALLY COOL, COOL FEATURE KIND OF FALLS BACK TO YEARS AGO, RIGHT BACK IN THE 1940S, PEOPLE WHO HAVE A SHOP DOWN BELOW AND ABOVE, I ACTUALLY LIKED THE IDEA, THIS THERE'S ME SPRINKLING THOSE THINGS AROUND AND GIVEN OUR LIMITED PARKING, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN CONSOLIDATE ALL WORK IN ONE AREA, THEN YOU HAD PROBLEMS WITH ALL THE STREET ON THE STREET PARKING. 
          AND SO IF YOU KIND OF SPREAD THEM AROUND AND NOT HAVING THEM ALL IN ONE LITTLE SPOT, SO I'M OKAY WITH MOVING THOSE AND MOVING THEM TO ANOTHER THING. 
          AND THEN THE RETAIL OF IT IS REALLY, IT'S NOT DESTINATION RETAIL, RIGHT? YOU'RE GOING TO APPOINTMENTS OR WHATEVER IT IS. 
          YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DRIVE BY. 
          AND LIKE, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE CELEBRITY LIKE PROFESSIONAL RETAIL. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, YEAH, I LIKED, I LIKED THE IDEA, BUT I LIKE IT IN THE REFINED AREA. 
          I'M JUST THINKING AS A, LET'S SAY, I DON'T, LET'S SAY I'M LIVING OVER HERE IN BLOCKS AND I DON'T HAVE A BUSINESS AS MY RELATIVES. 
          UM, AND I, I BOUGHT, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL COUNTENANCE HALF A MILLION DOLLAR CONDO. 
          UM, AND THEN I FIND OUT LATER, I'VE GOT A LITTLE, UH, 
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LITTLE WORKPLACE WHERE RETAIL IS ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BECAUSE WE'RE SAYING IT'S AN OPTION AND THE PRIVATE CONFIRM. 
          AND, UH, I SUSPECTED THIS WAS THE CASE, BUT, UH, OWNED, UH, UH, FORTUNATELY I HADN'T THE ORDINANCE OUT. 
          AND SO TRADITIONAL RETAIL IS NOT EVEN A PERMITTED USE IN THOSE UNITS BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T FUNCTION WELL, UH, DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE UNITS, THE LOCATION, THE AVAILABILITY OF PARKING, IT'S MORE, UH, FOR SOMEONE'S OFFICE AND AS A PROFESSIONAL OR OUR HAIRSTYLIST OR ACCOUNTANTS, SOME THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES ARE REALLY, UH, WHAT, UH, WILL BE, UH, PERMITTED IN THIS, IN THESE LIVE WORKING IT'S ON THE GROUND FLOOR. 
          IT'S NOT TRADITIONAL RETAIL, BUT IT WOULD ALLOW FOR RETAIL VERY LIMITED, LIKE A JEWELRY STORE. 
          UH, ALL GOOD CAN ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANT, YOU WANT TO SHARE THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED A, THE RESIDENT PERSPECTIVE. 
          THAT'S NOT WANTING TO OPERATE A RETAIL BUSINESS AND WANTING TO SPEND, TO SPEND A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A NICE TOWN HALL. 
          I SURE AS HECK WANT TO KNOW BEFOREHAND, WHAT, WHAT, UM, WHAT'S GOING TO BE A JOINING. 
          THEY WOULDN'T KNOW. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THE OREGON SAYS THE COMMERCIAL USE IS LIMITED TO, UM, ACCOUNTANTS, ARCHITECTS, ARTISANS, ATTORNEYS, COMPUTER MULTIMEDIA, RE UH, RELATED PROFESSIONALS, CONSULTANTS, ENGINEERS, HAIRSTYLISTS INSURANCE, REAL ESTATE TRAVEL AGENT ONE-ON-ONE INSTRUCTION, AND SIMILAR OCCUPATIONS APPROVED BY THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR. 
          SO THOSE WOULD BE UP TO OUR, UM, YEAH, I JUST, FOR ME, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE HECK WE'RE DOING RATHER THAN, THAN WELL, WE GOT, WHAT, WHAT, W THERE'S TWO THINGS HERE AND I THINK WE'RE OVERTHINKING IT. 
          UM, NUMBER ONE, WE'RE TRYING, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TELLING US THEY CAN'T BUILD LIVE WORK UNITS AT THAT VOCATION BECAUSE THERE'S A GREAT ISSUE AND THEY CAN'T MEET THE ADA REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO THEY, THEY LIVE, YOU WORKING IT'S CAN GO AWAY ENTIRELY. 
          AND THOSE CAN JUST BE MEETING IN THAT, THAT LITTLE SECTION OF, OF THE, UH, THOSE FOUR UNITS CAN GO AWAY ENTIRELY, INSTEAD OF SAYING, GO AWAY ENTIRELY. 
          WE WANT THEM TO MAINTAIN THAT NUMBER WITH THE WORK UNITS, RIGHT. 
          AND SO WE'RE SAYING, BUT THEN FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE WHERE YOU CAN PUT THEM AND THIS, FOR OUR TYPICAL, THIS IS A TYPICAL THING WHEN THIS KIND OF THING HAPPENS, THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, CORRECTION. 
          IT'S, IT IS BURDENSOME AND CUMBERSOME FOR THE DEVELOPER TO COME BACK THROUGH WHEN THEY'RE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SAYING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO, AND WHAT'S PERMITTED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          AND SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SAY, YEAH, YOU CAN MAKE THIS CHANGE AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO EMBRACE YOU AND NECESSARILY TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE CONCERN ABOUT SOMETHING BEING, KNOWING SOMETHING'S GOING TO BE, THERE WILL BE YOU, A PURCHASER WILL KNOW THERE. 
          THE, THE ONLY THING THAT'S BUILT RIGHT NOW ON BOX B, C AND D ARE ALONG THE WESTERN EDGE AND THE SOUTHERN EDGE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK PART OF THE NORTHERN, THERE THERE'S NOTHING. 
          THERE IS, THERE IS THAT SNORE, THAT NORTHWEST EDGE POPULATED AND BUILT ALREADY. 
          THE NORTHEAST HAS EDGE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE ARE THE ONES DOWN THE STREET THERE AS WELL. 
          THANKS ARE THOSE RIGHT THERE, MILTON. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO IF THE ONLY PLACE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, WELL, NOT EVEN THAT, I MEAN RIGHT HERE, THESE AREN'T BUILT, RIGHT? SO THESE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY BOUGHT NOT KNOWING WHAT'S EXCEPT FOR HAVING AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO IF THEY MOVE THIS, THESE FOUR UNITS OVER HERE, SOMEWHERE, OR OVER HERE, NONE OF THIS IS BUILT AND YOU'VE GOT OVER HERE, A LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE THAT, THAT WON'T BE IMPACTED IN A RETAIL SENSE IN ANY WAY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT PERMITTED. 
          IT, IT JUST SEEMS ODD TO ME THAT THE, THE DEVELOPER HASN'T SAID, WE GET SHIFTED TO THESE, YOU KNOW, PROPOSE SOMETHING TO US. 
          I MEAN, P AND Z, HASN'T SEEN THIS, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THIS, I GUESS, UM, THAT, THAT PART SEEMS, SEEMS ODD TO ME. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT KEN'S DOING NOW. 
          IT'S GIVING US A HEADS UP. 
          THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT, THE WAY STILL REQUIRE THEM TO ACHIEVE 17 UNITS. 
          THE WORK UNITS, THAT NUMBER IS A, THAT NUMBER IS A, UH, A MAXIMUM NUMBER. 
          AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY 17 UNITS SO THEY CAN ADD ANOTHER ONE. 
          THEY CAN KEEP THE FOUR UNITS BY 
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BILL LONGO AND MOVE TO BLOCK C BLOCK D A FEW UNITS. 
          IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION? AND AT ONE THING I WOULD NOTE, SO WHILE YOU WOULDN'T SEE THIS CHANGE, THAT IMPACTS BLOCK A, IF THEY PUT THOSE UNITS IN BLOCK C OR BLOCK D THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR P AND Z REVIEW AND APPROVAL, AND YOU WOULD THEN SEE WHERE THOSE LIVE WORK UNITS ARE GOING TO BE IF THEY RELOCATED TO THOSE BLOCKS. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, UH, YOU DON'T RECOMMEND THEM TO RELOCATE. 
          SO YOU CAN'T,  JUST REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LABOR WORK UNITS. 
          SO OUR CURRENT RECOMMENDATION IS TO MAINTAIN THE NUMBER OF LIVERS UNITS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED WITH THE PLAN AND TO RELOCATE THE ONES THAT NEED TO RELOCATE FROM BLOCK A TO BLOCK C OR BLOCK D, WHICH YOU WOULD THEN REVIEW IN A PER NIGHT OR ADD, I AM THE CHANGE TO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, LET THEM FINISH SO THEY CAN HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          UM, I AM TOTALLY COMFORTABLE WITH APPROVING THIS, KNOWING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME, SOME LIVE WORK UNITS IN OTHER PARTS, BECAUSE OF THIS, UM, WITH, WITH THE, IF WE ARE GOING TO GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEM SAY, THEY'D LIKE AN WHEREVER AND P AND Z AND CITY COUNCIL GETS TO LOOK AT IT AND SAY, OKAY, GREAT, JENNA, POMONA TO ASK. 
          CAUSE I NOTICED THAT P AND Z APPROVED THIS WITH NO CONDITIONS AND IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT? THAT'S BECAUSE THIS IS BLOCK A THAT'S BEING APPROVED. 
          AND SO THERE WAS NOTHING IN BLOCKADE THAT WOULD NOT MEET APPROVAL CRITERIA. 
          WHAT'S PRESENTED TO YOU FULLY COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING, AND THE CHANGES WILL BE IN BLOCK C AND D OR WHEREVER WOULD LET'S, LET'S BE CLEAR, UH, P AND Z, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. 
          KEVIN P AND Z DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT BLOCK BUILDING THREE, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          NEITHER, NEITHER DID CITY STAFF. 
          SO THIS HAS, THIS IS NOT AN ACTUAL FORMAL, THEY HAVEN'T MADE AN APPLICATION FOR THIS REQUEST YET. 
          SO WORK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OF CART BEFORE THE HORSE ON THIS TO BE TRANSPARENT, BUT AS IT STANDS NOW, IF, IF COUNCIL APPROVES WHAT'S HERE, ALL THAT THEY COULD DO IS CONSTRUCT WHAT IS BEING ACTED ON TONIGHT. 
          BUT AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY BLOCK A, AND IT COMPLIES WITH ALL REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS, THAT WILL BE THE MOTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I WOULD SAY, EXCEPT FOR THE COMPLIANCE AND THE DETAILS SITE PLANS FOR BUILDING, WHICH I'M OKAY WITH. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, I WANT TO, I THINK IT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE PNC AND CITY COUNCIL AS TO WHERE EXACTLY WHERE THE OTHER ONE THAT COME UP LATER. 
          YES. 
          THE, THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF LIVE WORK UNITS. 
          IT ONLY HAS A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF LIVE WORK UNITS. 
          SO EVEN WITHOUT THE UNITS IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, IT DOES COMPLY. 
          AND IF YOU WERE TO DENY IT WITHOUT SOME OTHER REALLY COMPELLING REASON, IT COULD BE CONSIDERED AN ARBITRARY DECISION SUBJECT TO CHALLENGE BECAUSE THIS PARTICULAR PLAN MEETS THE ORDINANCE. 
          LIKE THERE'S NO MINIMUM REQUIRED. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN WE GO TO SLIDE SEVEN? OKAY. 
          OPTION THREE. 
          UM, SO IS THAT, IS THAT, HAVE YOU RECOMMENDED A PARTICULAR APPROACH OR IS THAT, ARE YOU GETTING TO THAT? UH, SO FOR FUTURE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM, WHEN IT, WHEN IT BECOMES AN ACTUAL APPLICATION, OPTION TWO IS WHAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED TO THE APPLICANT AND THEY'VE, THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED THAT THEY CAN COMPLY WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, YEAH, I'M GOOD WITH IT. 
          UM, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, I JUST WONDER, SO THE ENTIRE HOME, THE SPECIALTY IS BUILDING TUNNELS WHEN THEY PROPOSE THIS, THEY'D NEVER THOUGHT OF WHAT YOUR NEEDS, WOULD IT BE REQUIRED TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ADA PILOTS? I THINK THEY JUST MADE A MISTAKE ON THE DESIGN. 
          SO, SO I JUST WONDER, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GOOD IN TOWNHOMES, THEN THEY WOULDN'T MAKE SUCH A HUGE MISTAKE, BUT IT'S NOT A HUGE MISTAKE. 
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IT'S JUST, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LATER WORK. 
          THAT'S THE ORIGINAL YOU CAN'T RIGHT. 
          BUT IT'S JUST DEFEAT. 
          WHAT STAFF'S TRYING TO DO IS MAINTAIN THAT ORIGINAL INTENT, RIGHT? SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS STAFF CAN DO THE, THE, THE AMENDMENT TO THIS P THIS, THIS, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR THOSE, THOSE BUILD THOSE UNITS IN BUILDING THREE, TO BE TOWN HOMES, THEY HAVE COMMUNICATED, THEY BEING IN TOWN SAID THAT WE CAN PUT THESE IN OTHER PLACES. 
          AND SO IF IT'S BLOCK C OR IF IT'S BLOCK D, WHEN THOSE AREAS ARE BROUGHT FOR THOSE DEVELOPMENT PLANS ARE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE P AND Z AND TO COUNCIL, IT WILL BE REFLECTED IN THOSE PLANS WHERE THOSE LIVE WORK UNITS WILL BE PERFECTION. 
          SO EVERYBODY'S GOOD WITH THAT. 
          THAT'S A QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE QUESTION IS, UM, UM, WHY CAN'T YOU JUST, I THINK THE CHALLENGE WHERE THEY'RE AT NOW IS IF IT WAS EARLIER IN THE PROCESS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS, WAS NOT ALREADY IN PLACE, IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER. 
          AND, UM, WITH THESE, UH, URBAN PROJECTS, UH, EVERYTHING'S MUCH MORE COMPACT, A LOT MORE CONSTRAINED, UH, AS OPPOSED TO WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE LESS DENSE. 
          SO ISSUES LIKE THIS THAT APPEAR TO BE SMALL, CAN BECOME SIGNIFICANT ISSUES VERY QUICKLY. 
          UM, OUR FIRST OPTION ALWAYS IS, WAS TO, UH, HAVE THEM ADDRESS THIS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO, TO NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH ANY OF THIS. 
          THEY CONTINUE TO SAY THAT THEY CANNOT, UH, THE ISSUE. 
          UH, SO THEN THE, THE SECOND OPTION OF COURSE, IS ACCOMMODATED SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE SITE, YOU COULD PROBABLY, YOU COULD PROBABLY ALWAYS ACCOMMODATE IT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE SHE WAS WANTING SOMETHING IN, SHOULDN'T BE THERE, RIGHT? YOU'LL HAVE ALL THESE RAMPS AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF TO GET UP THERE. 
          IT JUST WON'T, IT WON'T LOOK RIGHT. 
          I DON'T THINK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IF OPTION TWO WOULD GO WITH, CAN I MAKE ONE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS DON'T LET ANY OF THE LIVE WORK UNITS FACE? UM, NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S A PARKING LOT WAS RIGHT THERE. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE IN THE INTERNAL BLOCKS. 
          IT'S A PARKING LOT. 
          THERE'S NOTHING ON YOU WERE SAYING, THEY'RE GOING TO COME BEFORE US WITH THOSE PROPOSALS TO OPTION TWO WOULD STILL COME WHEN THE BOX OPTION TWO IS TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BLOCK EIGHT ADMINISTRATIVELY. 
          WHEN THOSE COME BEFORE IN, IN FOR AQUAMAN BLOCK C AND D COME FORWARD FOR DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW, AND APPROVAL, IT WILL BE SHOWN THERE. 
          SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THEM. 
          AND WE'LL, WE CAN SHARE THAT, THAT FEEDBACK WITH THE AFRICAN, I, I DON'T THINK WE'LL HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I DIDN'T WANT DISCUSSION ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO MORE QUESTION. 
          ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS LISTED THE HEARING ANYONE IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS IDEA, PLEASE DO. 
          SO SAYS NO IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          SECOND MOTION FILE ON LORI WARD. 
          SECOND, MAKE, USE, OR FAVOR TO OPPOSE THIS PLAN, PLEASE SAY, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED 
          [11.  Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on Property Located at 4525 Belt Line Road, Currently Zoned Planned Development (PD), Through Ordinance 089-015, by Amending the Permitted Uses and Approving a Special Use Permit for a Brewpub and Restaurant with the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages for On-Premises Consumption Only. Case 1823-Z/4525 Belt Line Road- Oak'd Handcrafted BBQ and Brewery.]
I CAN HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDERATION ON AN ORDINANCE CHANGING. 
           LOCATED AT 45, 25. 
          ELANGO THE CODE THAT RESOLVE AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT PD THROUGH ORDINANCE  PERMITTED USES AND APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A BREW PUB AND RESTAURANT. 
          WHEN THE SALE AT HOLLY BEVERAGES FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION ONLY CASE NUMBER ONE EIGHT TWO THREE ZERO FOUR FIVE TWO FIVE. 
          OOPS. 
          AND THE CRAFT BARBECUE. 
          AND YES, THANK YOU. 
          MARION CITY COUNCIL. 
          SO THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TO NUTS IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE EXISTING, UH, PD ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, THAT APPLIES TO THE SPECIFIC SITE TO ALLOW BREWPUB AS A PERMITTED USE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          AND THEN WITH THAT, UH, THE REQUEST INCLUDES A REQUEST FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR THE BIRD PUB USE, UH, TO ALLOW ON, UH, 
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AND OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, UH, AND THEN FOR A RESTAURANT, UH, AN SUP, UH, THAT INCLUDES, UH, SALE OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGE IS FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION. 
          SO THIS SITE IS LOCATED IN THE FORMER, UH, CHAMBERLAINS FISH MARKET SITES, UH, THAT IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF BELTLINE ROAD, UH, JUST 300 FEET TO THE WEST OF BELTLINE DRIVE OR EXCUSE ME, BELTWAY DRIVE. 
          UH, AND THE APPLICANT IS OWED HANDCRAFT, UH, BARBECUE, UH, AND, UH, OAT IS A LOCAL CONCEPT. 
          UH, THEY DO HAVE AN EXISTING LOCATION, UH, IN NORTH DALLAS OFF OF, UH, GREENVILLE ROAD, UH, WITH THIS NEW LOCATION, UH, THEY PROPOSE, UH, TO PROVIDE FOR, UH, UH, SMOKED PRIME AND WHY DO BEEF? AND THEN ALSO THERE'LL BE BREWING, UH, FOR, UH, OF THEIR OWN BURGERS, UH, ONSITE, UH, THROUGH THAT GROUP HOUSES. 
          SO, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ZONING HISTORY, UH, ON THE SITE WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED PD, UH, IN JUNE OF 1989, THAT PD APPLIED TO THIS SITE, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES THAT COMPRISE, UH, 11.66 ACRES. 
          UH, ALSO AT THAT TIME AND THEN SEP, UH, WAS APPROVED, UH, FOR ALCOHOL SALES, MORE ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, UM, THE CURRENT USE OF THIS SITE, IT'S MAINTENANCE, UH, CHAMBERLAIN'S FISH MARKET, UM, WENT OUT OF BUSINESS. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT BREW PUB USE, UH, AS NOTED, UH, THAT WILL, UH, IF APPROVED THAT WOULD ALLOW, UH, FOR LIMITED ONSITE, UH, PRODUCTION, UH, AND THEN ALSO, UH, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR OFFSITE, UH, CONSUMPTION THAT RESTAURANT USE THAT WILL LARGELY BE ACCOMMODATED WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT. 
          UH, THEY WILL BE, UH, EXPANDING SOME OUTDOOR DINING AREAS AND HAVING A MUCH LARGER PATIO SPACE. 
          UH, SO IN TOTAL, UH, WILL BE AROUND 10,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          UM, 6,600 OF THAT IS INTERIOR DINING AREA. 
          AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE A LARGE, UH, 2,800 SQUARE FOOT PATIO AREA. 
          UH, AND THEN THEY'LL ALSO, UH, INCLUDE 600 SQUARE FEET FOR THE PROPOSED BARBECUE SMOKE SHED. 
          UH, SO SEEDING IN TOTAL WILL ACCOMMODATE, UM, JUST OVER 150 INSIDE, AND THEN JUST UNDER 100, UH, IN THE OUTDOOR, UH, PATIO AREA. 
          UH, SO WITH THIS REQUEST, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A DETAILED, UH, SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UH, AND THEY DEMONSTRATED WITH THOSE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS, PARTICULARLY SINCE THERE'S LIMITED IMPROVEMENTS BEING PROPOSED TO THE BUILDING AND NOT REALLY ANY EXPANSION OF THE BUILDING, UH, THAT THEY, UH, COMPLY WITH ALL THE SITE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, UH, THAT ARE PART OF THE PDA ZONING THAT APPLIES TO THE PROJECT. 
          UM, ALSO WITH REGARDS TO PARKING ONSITE, THERE IS AN EXISTING PARKING LOT. 
          UH, THEY HAVE, UH, DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY MEET THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF THE PD, AND THEY ACTUALLY EXCEED THOSE REQUIREMENTS BY THE 10 SPACES. 
          UM, WITH THIS PROJECT, THEY HAVE, UM, INCREASED THE LANDSCAPE COVERAGE ON THE SITE, UH, FROM 12.5% TO 13.2%. 
          AND THEY'VE ALSO MADE SIGNIFICANT, UH, INVESTMENT AT THE BELTLINE ROAD FRONTAGE, FULLY COMPLYING WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN REQUIREMENTS, ACCOMMODATING AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, UM, BUFFER AREAS, UH, PARKWAY, AND THEN OF COURSE, STREET TREES AND LANDSCAPING, UH, WITHIN THAT, UH, UH, PARKWAY IN BUFFER AREA, UH, WITH THE FACADES, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THEY ARE PRESERVING, UH, A HEALTHY PORTION OF THE EXISTING FACADE. 
          THEY ARE ADDING A LOT MORE OPENINGS AND THEN WE'LL BE PROVIDING FOR SOME, UH, FENCING AND BARRIERS AROUND THE, UH, PATIO DYNAMIC. 
          UH, SO WITH THIS REQUEST, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MET AND CONSIDERED IT ON MARCH 16, UM, BEYOND IT, BESIDES THE APPLICANT, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY SPEAKERS ON THE ITEM. 
          UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UH, WITH THE CONDITION, THE STANDARD CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL NOT USE ANY TERMS OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS THAT RELATE TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN ANY EXTERIOR SIGNAGE. 
          SO WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL, UM, WITH THAT CONDITION, I'VE GOT A QUESTION, A QUESTION ABOUT THE PATIO, UM, THAT SEEMS LIKE A NICE AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE. 
          IS THAT, UM, WHAT WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY? 
          [01:55:01]
UM, NO, SIR. 
          THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WILL THAT, CAN YOU KIND OF TELL US WHERE THAT ONE MIGHT BE? SO IT WILL BE AT THE WESTERN FACADE OF THE BUILDING. 
          SO, UH, IN THIS IMAGE, NORTH IS TO THE LEFT OF THE SLIDE. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE IT, UM, ADJACENT TO THE PARKING AREA AT THE SOUTHERN EDGE, AND THEN WE'RE WRAPPING AROUND THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE SITE. 
          SO THE SOUTH SOUTHWESTERN. 
          OKAY. 
          GOT IT. 
          THANKS. 
          I MEAN, ALCOHOL IT'S A BREWERY BEER. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          UM, PARAGRAPH BARBECUE, GOOD MAR FOUL OF THE ALCOHOLIC. 
          SO THAT LANGUAGE AND THE AGENDA, AND THIS ACTUALLY CAME UP IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DISCUSSION THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THEIR PROPOSED SIGNAGE. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY JUST GOING TO BE OKTANE CREDIT PARK AS YOU CATCH THEM. 
           PUBLIC HEARING. 
          IF ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO SO. 
          SO NOBODY IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THEIR SIDE. 
           UM, YEAH, I'M JUST, I JUST GOTTA PIPE IN REAL QUICK, THAT YOUNG TRANS PIECE GAY THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT. 
          AND I BELIEVE WE GOT ON THE PHONE, THE, UH, THE OWNER AND THE ARCHITECT PLEASE. 
          UM, WELL PLANT, ARE YOU IN, UH, ARE YOU GUYS THERE? SO I'LL RESTATE MY MOM. 
          CLINT'S LOUD ON MY NEXT, TRAVIS DO SCAN WITH THAT MO ENGINEERING, UM, 5,104 CONNORS DRIVE IN FLORIDA KNOW I JUST CAUSE POP HEARING, BUT HOWEVER, I CAN STILL LET YOU SPEAK. 
          DO YOU WANT TO TELL US ANYTHING, TRAVIS? UM, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON AS CLAN HAS ANYTHING TO ADD. 
          I THINK STAFF DID A TREMENDOUS JOB, UM, COVERING ALL THE BASES, YOU KNOW, CLINT. 
          UM, I KNOW I'M JUST EXCITED ABOUT BEING AN ART CLEAN. 
          ARE YOU CONNECTED NOW? YES, I AM THINKING. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I'LL PASS IT ON TO YOU THEN IF YOU WANT TO JUST KIND OF HIGHLIGHT A FEW TIMES. 
          YEAH. 
          PLEASE TELL YOUR NAME. 
          YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          UH, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY MOVING DATA SINCE WE'VE BEEN PART OF AND A LONG TIME BEING AN ALL AROUND IT, UH, INTEGRATING IT WITH IT AND ALSO KNOW Y'ALL'S NAME FOR MANY YEARS THROUGH OUR FAMILY PIES. 
          UH, WE APPRECIATE AND LOVE. 
          DADDY'S WATCHING. 
          HE BROKE A SMALL TO ME, PRIDE IN BYRON. 
          I MEAN, GETTING NOW, UM, MY BROTHER STARTED A BARBECUE BUSINESS OVER 40 PLUS YEARS AGO. 
          WE'RE NEW TO THE BUSINESS. 
          MY PARTNER, I WOULD SAY INTO THE, INTO THE BARBECUE BUSINESS, BUT WE'RE GETTING OUTSTANDING REVIEWS, BUT WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD. 
          YOU'VE GAINED THE PUBLIC'S TRUST, UH, YOUR, YOUR PRODUCT. 
          WE WERE BLESSED TO HAVE THREE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE, UH,  FOR LUNCH ONE DAY AND THEY STOPPED BY THIS INTRODUCED THEMSELVES AND THEY SAID THEY REALLY ENJOYED IT. 
          AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR LONG-TERM PARTNERSHIP, THE CITY OF ADDISON TO PROVIDE A HIGH-END QUALITY, BARBECUE WITH A LITTLE MICROBREWERY ROLE, A LITTLE BIT OF A STORY, AND A LITTLE, A LITTLE LIGHTER, A LITTLE ADDITIONAL, UM, YOU KNOW, EXCITEMENT TO THE AREA I'M HERE. 
          AND THE WIND WAS ASKED TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, THAT YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO FEEL AND, UH, ANY, UH, CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THAT WE WILL TRY TO MAKE SURE WE LEAVE YET. 
          I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE? DO YOU THINK, SIR, WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE FOR DOING THE WORK AND OPENING? UH, HONESTLY WE GO THROUGH THIS, TRY AND GET THROUGH THIS PRETTY LOW. 
          WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT 30 DAYS TO GET OUR PLANTS AND ALL ENGINEERING SUBMITTED TO THE CITY. 
          HOPEFULLY GET OUR BEEN PERMITTED OR JUNE. 
          AND PROBABLY WHAT IF YOU START IN JULY WITH ONLY DATE OF FIRST QUARTER OF 2022. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CLEAN PLATE. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR FULL NAME? I'M SORRY, SIR. 
          DO YOU YOUR FULL NAME PLEASE? I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE COMING ACROSS HERE AS ALL WRONG. 
          I'LL APOLOGIZE. 
          LAST NAME CLINTON. 
          I'M SORRY, SIR. 
          YOUR LAST NAME, LAST NAME IS  T O N ALL THE TIMES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU 
          [02:00:03]
FOR CLINICS. 
          NOPE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SINCE I ALREADY CLOSED COVID YEARS, NOTICE THAT, DO I HAVE A MOTION ITEM? 11 SECOND. 
          SO MORE TO MAKE A MOTION PONDER ON SECONDED ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS, PLEASE SAY AYE. 
          AYE, AYE. 
          POST CONGRATULATION, CLINT WORK WITH YOUR CITY, UH, IN TERMS OF THE DOME INSPECTION  ENGINEERS AND THEN YOUR, UH, PART BEING IN YOUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEN PLEASE COME SEE US AT OUR FIRST LOCATION DOWN IN GREENVILLE AVENUE. 
          UM, AND THE HOTEL SHOPPING. 
          WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU STOP BY. 
          I'M REALLY PLEASED THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          YES. 
          AND, UH, MY THANKS TO OLGA IN HER PRESENTATION OF THE INITIAL AT BNZ AND THIS, YOU DID AN EXCELLENT JOB IN, IN PRESENTATIONS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, ALL THAT ASSISTANCE. 
          [12.  Hold a Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Development Plan for the Development of the First Phase of the Trinity Christian Academy Master Concept Plan, Including a Site Plan, Landscape Plan, Preliminary Utility and Drainage Plans, and Building Elevations for a New Middle School Building, in an Existing Planned Development District (PD), Through Ordinance O16-040, Located on Approximately 19.3 Acres Addressed as 17001 Addison Road. Case 1824-Z/TCA Middle School Addition.]
I CAN HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, PRESENT, DISCUSS A CUSTODY ACTION ON A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THE TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY MASTER CONCEPT PLAN, INCLUDING THE SITE PLAN LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR LUMINARY WITH REALITY AND DRAINAGE PLANS AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS FOR NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT PV THROUGH ORDINANCE ZERO ONE SIX ZERO FOUR ZERO. 
          LOCATED ON APPROXIMATELY 19.3 ACRES ADDRESS AS ONE SEVEN ZERO ZERO ONE EDISON ROAD CASE NUMBER ONE EIGHT TWO FOUR. 
          ZTC A MIDDLE SCHOOL EDITION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MARION COUNCIL MEMBERS, KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          SO, UH, ONCE AGAIN, UH, TONIGHT WITH THIS APPLICATION, UH, YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO REVIEW DETAILED SITE DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO CONFIRM COMPLIANCE WITH PAST ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT ZONING THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, FOR THE TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY, UH, CANVAS. 
          UH, SO AS WE ALL KNOW, THE TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY CAMPUS IS LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SOJOURN DRIVE, UH, TO THE WEST OF ADDISON ROAD. 
          UH, THE SPECIFIC, UH, AREA OF THE CAMPUS THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON TONIGHT, UH, IS ACTUALLY, UH, JUST TO THE NORTH OF SOJOURN, UH, DRIVE, AND THEN, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE EXISTING, UH, ATHLETIC FIELD ON THE CAMPUS AT THAT LOCATION. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THE CAMPUS MASTER PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES THAT, UM, MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING, UH, AND, UH, ATTACHED LIBRARY, AND THEN ALSO ASSOCIATED ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AT THAT LOCATION. 
          UH, SO THIS IMAGE BEFORE YOU, YOU ACTUALLY SEE THE, UH, MASTER CONCEPT PLAN, IF IT WERE TO BE BUILT OUT AS APPROVED BACK IN 2016, AND THEN YOU SEE THE PROPOSED FIRST PHASE OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, IN COLOR, UH, DEPICTED THERE, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF ZONING HISTORY ON THIS SITE AS OF TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY CAME TO THE TOWN OF MADISON IN 1976. 
          AT THAT TIME, THE SITE WAS ZONED, UH, ARWAN UH, DID RECEIVE SEP APPROVAL, UH, FOR THE PRIVATE SCHOOL USE. 
          AND THEN IN 2016 AS THE, UH, ACADEMY, UH, DEVELOPED, UM, A MASTER CONCEPT PLAN, UH, THEY MOVED FORWARD WITH PRESENTING PLANS TO THE TOWN THAT REFLECTED, UH, NEW BUILDINGS, UH, COMPRISING 250,000 SQUARE FEET IN FLOOR AREA. 
          AND THEN, UH, REDEVELOPMENT OR REMOVAL OF EXISTING BUILDINGS COMPRISING 150,000 SQUARE FEET IN FLOOR AREA. 
          THEY ALSO PROPOSE, UH, PARKING IMPROVEMENTS HIGHLIGHTED BY A PARKING STRUCTURE, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE CAMPUS, AND THEN ALSO VARIOUS ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE SITE TO FACILITATE THEIR REDEVELOPMENT PLANS. 
          THIS ONCE AGAIN IS REALLY THE PHASE ONE OF THAT CONCEPT PLAN. 
          AND THIS SUBMISSION BUILDING IS REALLY . 
          SO WHAT YOU SEE IN YOUR, UH, IN THIS SLIDE IS A, UH, REFLECTION OF THE PROPOSED CONDITION, THE INTERIM CONDITION, WHEREAS BEFORE YOU SAW THE BUILD-OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN, THIS IS REFLECTING THE BUILD-OUT OF THIS PROPOSED FIRST PHASE AND THEN THE MAINTENANCE OF THE EXISTING CONDITION AROUND IT. 
          SO THIS INCLUDES A THREE-STORY MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING ON NOT TO EXCEED 55 FEET IN HEIGHT, A SINGLE STORY LIBRARY THAT WILL BE 22 FEET 
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IN HEIGHT AND ATTACHED TO THAT MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING. 
          AND TOGETHER, THOSE WILL COMPRISE 45,000 SQUARE FEET AND FLOOR AREA. 
          UM, WITH THIS, UH, YOU'LL SEE SOME ACCESS DRIVE IMPROVEMENTS, A REMOVAL OF AN EXISTING ACCESS DRIVE, AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ACCESS DRIVE, AND REALLY THE EFFECT OF THAT. 
          YOU'LL SEE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO EVER, UM, OBSERVE A STUDENT PICK UP AND DROP OFF IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON, AND ESSENTIALLY WITH THIS NEW BUILDING, THEY WILL MOVE THE DROP OFF AND PICK UP POINT, UH, ESSENTIALLY 400 FEET TO THE WEST AND DEEPER INTO THE SITE PROVIDING FOR ADDITIONAL AREA FOR QUEUING WITHIN THE CAMPUS, AS OPPOSED TO, UH, TRAFFIC MAYBE BACKING UP ON THE, ON THE SOJOURN. 
          AND AT SOME TIMES THE ADDISON INSTEAD OF CHICORY, UH, INTERSECTION, UM, WITH REGARDS TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PDA ZONING, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, UH, FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS. 
          SO THINGS SUCH AS SETBACKS BUILDING HEIGHT LOCK COVERAGE, AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE PARKING STANDARDS, THE PARKING STANDARDS FOR THAT PD ESSENTIALLY, UM, UH, REQUIRE THEM TO AT LEAST MAINTAIN THE EXISTING AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT EXISTED AT THE TIME OF THAT, UH, ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PD. 
          SO ANYTHING THEY DO MOVING FORWARD EITHER NEEDS TO ADD PARKING OR NOT CHANGE IT. 
          AND SO IN THIS CASE, THEY'VE REMOVED SOME PARKING, BUT THEY'VE COMPLETELY REPLACED IT ONSITE. 
          IT'S A NO NET CHANGE IN PARKING, IT COMPLIES WITH THE PD REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY THE, UH, EXTERIOR FACADES, UH, THOSE MEET THE MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS AND ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS OF THAT PD. 
          THE IMAGE YOU SEE, UH, IN THIS SLIDE IS THE STREET FACING FACADE THAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM CEMETERY. 
          UH, ANOTHER THING THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED, UH, WITH CONSIDERATION OF THIS PD IS AN INTERIM TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, THIS REFLECTS THAT CHANGE THAT I NOTED WITH REGARDS TO PROVIDING ADDITIONAL ROOM FOR STACKING AND DOING, UH, FOR DROP OFF AND PICK UP THOSE STUDENTS AT THIS NEW LOCATION. 
          AND THEN ALSO WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK, UH, RELATED TO, UM, PARKING OR STAGING OF VEHICLES QUEUING OCCURRING ON SOJOURN ROAD. 
          AND, UM, UM, THE APPLICANT DID CONFIRM THAT, UH, ISSUE WITH, WITH FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH CITY STAFF. 
          SO, UH, ESSENTIALLY WITH THIS IMPROVEMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IMPROVEMENT TO THAT CONDITION. 
          IT REALLY HAS NEVER BEEN TCA'S INTENT TO HAVE DROP OFF OR PICK UP OCCUR OR, OR IT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS SOJOURN. 
          UH, IT DOES HAPPEN AT TIMES, UM, UNDER THE CURRENT CONDITION, BUT THEIR HOPE IS TO SEE THAT IMPROVE WITH THESE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          WHAT THEY WOULD ALSO SHARE IS THAT, UM, WHERE THEY DO SEE, UH, PARKING ON SOJOURN IS PRIMARILY WITH EVENT PARKING. 
          SO NOT THE DAY TO DAY STUDENT PICK UP AND DROP OFF, BUT WHEN THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT ON CAMPUS, IT'S, IT'S NOT INFREQUENT WHERE FOLKS MAY PARK ON STREETS. 
          SO THEY SHARED THAT WITH THE FUTURE PARKING IMPROVEMENTS, TAKE AWAY THE PARKING STRUCTURE, AND THEY DO ANTICIPATE THAT ISSUE TO BE BETTER ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. 
          SO WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A, A LOT OF FEEDBACK, UM, AND WITH REGARDS TO, UH, TREE REPLACEMENT AND TREE REMOVAL, TREE MITIGATION ON SITE. 
          SO THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW THE CAMPUS YOU'LL KNOW THAT THERE IS A, A VERY DENSE EXISTING CANOPY ON THE CAMPUS. 
          THE, THE ACADEMY HAS BEEN, I'M A GOOD STEWARD OF THAT PROPERTY. 
          THEY'VE PLANTED A LOT OF TREES OVER THE YEARS AND THOSE TREES ARE, ARE NOW MATURE. 
          SO THE CHALLENGE, ANYTIME YOU DEAL WITH REDEVELOPMENT, UH, YOU HAVE TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE NEW BUILDINGS, UM, AND ACCOMMODATE, UH, REMOVAL OF TREES AND REPLACEMENT OF TREES ONSITE TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THAT TREE REMOVAL. 
          WHAT THE APPLICANT FOUND IS BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE OF THEIR MASTER PLAN AND THERE'S ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS, ADDITIONAL PARKING AREAS, ADDITIONAL DRY MILES PROPOSED. 
          IT IS VERY CHALLENGING TO REPLACE THE, UH, 389.9 CALIBER INCHES OF TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED FROM THE SITE, UH, ONSITE. 
          UM, ONE THING YOU'LL ALSO NOTE FROM YOUR PACKET, THE APPLICANT REDESIGNED THIS, UH, CONCEPT SEVERAL TIMES TO LIMIT TREE MITIGATION. 
          SO THIS WAS NOT THE NUMBER THAT THEY STARTED WITH. 
          IT WAS INITIALLY HIGHER AND, AND THEY SAW ONCE AGAIN, THE VALUE IN THOSE TREES AND THEY WORKED TO, TO LIMIT REMOVAL AS MUCH AS 
          [02:10:01]
POSSIBLE WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DISCUSSION THAT COMMISSION ASKED THE APPLICANT REALLY THE, TO TAKE ONE MORE, LOOK AT THIS ISSUE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL ONSITE REPLACEMENTS, AND THEN ALSO THE, TO PROVIDE BETTER DIRECTION. 
          AND THIS IS REALLY MORE FROM PER STAFF THAN, THAN TRAINING CHRISTIAN ACADEMY IN TERMS OF HOW A CASH IN LIEU OF REPLACEMENT ONSITE, UH, TREE REPLACEMENT, UH, PROPOSAL WOULD WORK. 
          SO ON THE FIRST PART OF THAT, UH, THE APPLICANTS AND WE THINK TCA AND THE CONSULTANT TEAM FOR DOING THIS, THEY DID ACCOMMODATE A SEVEN ADDITIONAL EIGHT INCH CALIPER TREES, UH, WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT OF THE TRINITY CHRISTIAN CANOPY CAMPUS. 
          THAT WAS A CHALLENGING, UH, UH, ITEM TO, TO ADDRESS, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME VOCATIONS WHERE THOSE TREES WILL NOT BE IMPACTED BY FUTURE REDEVELOPMENT ON THE CASH IN LIEU OF DEDICATION, CONSIDERATION, UH, TCA AND THEIR CONSULTANT TEAM, OUR STAFF, PARTICULARLY OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF, UM, UH, IDENTIFIED A MECHANISM BY WHICH, UH, TCA COULD PROVIDE FOR, UH, CASH IN LIEU OF REPLACEMENT ONSITE AT $175 PER CALIPER INCH OF, UH, TREES REMOVED ONSITE THAT ARE NOT BEING REPLACED ON SITE. 
          THAT NUMBER CAME FROM MAYBE EXISTING CONTRACTS THAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A FULL REPLACEMENT COSTS, UH, FOR OUR FULL PLANTING COSTS. 
          I SHOULDN'T SAY FOR NEW TREES AND OTHER PARTS OF ADDISON TO MAKE UP FOR, UH, THE INABILITY TO HAVE ONSITE PLANTINGS AT THIS LOCATION. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT, OUR PARK STAFF LOOKED AT AREAS OF NEED IN THE GENERAL VICINITY, OR AS CLOSE TO POSSIBLE AS THE TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY CANVAS. 
          AND THEY IDENTIFIED THREE LOCATIONS, UH, NORTH ADDISON PARK, UH, FOR 24 INCH CALIPER TREES, CORN PARK FOR TEN FOUR INCH CALIPER TREES. 
          AND THEN THE KELLER SPRINGS PARKWAY WITH 34, FOUR INCH CALENDAR TREES THAT WOULD ACCOUNT FOR, UH, THEIR MITIGATION BALANCE, UH, THAT, UH, TCA, UH, NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE DEPLOY ADDRESS, THE TREE REMOVAL ON SITE, UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN THEIR RECOMMENDATION, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST THAT THEY WANTED TO SEE THE, UM, TREE REPLACEMENT PLAN COME BACK TO THEM BEFORE, UH, CONSTRUCTION COMMENCES AT THIS SITE. 
          UH, SO ONCE AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION IS TO NOT SLOW DOWN TCA TO LET THEM MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT PLANS, BUT BEFORE THEY START ACTUALLY, UH, CONSTRUCTION ON THE SITE TO ALLOW THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT THAT PLAN AND CONFIRM THAT, UH, THEIR INTENT WAS ADDRESS. 
          UH, SO WITH THAT STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, WITH OPPORTUNITY FOR PMC REVIEW OF NUTRIENT REPLACEMENT PLANS. 
          SO IF PNZ IS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE PLAN, WHAT HAPPENS, I THINK THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR DIALOGUE WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE APPLICANT. 
          I DO PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT DIDN'T MEET THE INTENT OF THE COMMISSION WITH THEIR PROPOSED REVISIONS. 
          AND IF THERE'S PERHAPS BETTER LOCATIONS IN ADDISON THAT THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT THEIR PARK STAFF TO, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, BUT AS FAR AS, UH, PROVIDING FOR FUNDS TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR LOSS AND MAXIMIZING, UH, TREE PLANTINGS ONSITE, AND WE DO BELIEVE THE INTENT IS MET, BUT IT NEVERTHELESS IS APPROVAL. 
          ONE MORE QUESTION. 
          SO LET ME ASK YOU, YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD A PARKING STRUCTURE. 
          SO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DID THEY REVEAL THAT SAID, I COULDN'T FIND THIS. 
          IT WAS ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE, UH, PVA ZONING AND MASTER CONCEPT PLAN FROM 2016. 
          THERE ARE NO CURRENT PLANS TO ACTUALLY CONSTRUCT THAT PARKING STRUCTURE THERE THEY'RE RELIANT ON, ON, UH, GENERATING FUNDING, UH, FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S THAT'S PROPOSED RIGHT NOW IS THAT THE SPACE, THE SPACE ONE, THE MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING, ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THEY ARE GOING TO DO THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT JUST DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH AND HOW MANY SPACES, BUT YOU WILL PAY ATTENTION TO IT WHEN THEY BRING IT BACK. 
          EXCELLENT JOB CAN, AND YOU'RE MAKING OUR JOB EASY. 
          YOU'VE DEVELOPED A PATTERN OF DELIVERING 
          [02:15:01]
A VERY STRONG COMMAND OF YOUR WORK AND DEEPLY APPRECIATIVE. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          YOU COVERED EVERYTHING. 
          I HAD ONE QUESTION JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT TRULY MITIGATION COSTS, OTHER TOWNS CHARTER? I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, LIKE OTHER THERE'S OTHER, A LOT OF CITIES ON A TREE MITIGATION WHERE LIKE YOU CAN PAY A FEE, A LIEU OF, UM, FOR CALIBRATORS THAT YOU'VE CUT DOWN OR WHATEVER. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS. 
          I MEAN, 175, I MISSED, I JUST WANT TO WALK THAT IT VARIES. 
          I CAN GIVE YOU A COUPLE PAST EXAMPLES BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. 
          SO I PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR THE CITY OF DENTON AND MY LAST TWO POSITIONS ARE CITY OF DENTON AND CITY OF PLANO. 
          UM, THEN, UM, IS VERY AGGRESSIVE WITH THEIR FEES, LIKE KIND OF MOVED TO, UH, A COST OF SERVICE MODEL ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          UH, THEIR TREE MITIGATION FEE IS $200 FOR CALIPER RANCH. 
          AND THEN THE CITY OF PLANO IS $175. 
          SO BOTH OF THE VALUES GAVE ME GOOD CONFIDENCE IN WHAT OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT QUOTED. 
          GOTCHA. 
          SO IN LINE WITH WHAT OUR COSTS ARE, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS ALYSSA PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL. 
          ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS IDEA, PLEASE DO THAT. 
          GRANDMA, ANYBODY CALLING ALL RIGHT. 
          SINCE NOBODY PROBABLY WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, I HEREBY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          DO I HAVE MOTION MOTION FROM TOM BROWN? SECOND FROM PAUL ONE, ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS SPACE. 
          CAN YOU SAY CLOSE 
          [13.  Hold Public Hearing, Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on Property Located at 5294 Belt Line Road, Suite 106, Which Property is Currently Zoned PD, Planned Development, Through Ordinance O19-22, by Approving a Special Use Permit for a New Restaurant with the Sale of Alcoholic Beverages for On-Premises Consumption Only. Case 1822-SUP/The Biscuit Bar.]
13, PRESENT, DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AN ACTION. 
          I AM ORDINANCE CHECKING THE ZONING ON PROPERTY LOCATED IN 52 94  SUITE WHILE SIX, WHICH PUPPIES COME INTO THE PD PLAN DEVELOPED TO THIS DEAL ONE NIGHT. 
          WHEN DID YOU BUY, APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEW RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF HOT BEVERAGES FOR ON-PREMISE CONSUMPTION ONLY CASE NUMBER ONE 82 TO SCOP BISCUIT BAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ONCE AGAIN, , WE'LL ADDRESS THAT IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THANK YOU. 
          ONCE AGAIN, MARRIED ST. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN SCHMIDT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          UM, SO, UH, AND I, ALLISON, UH, NEW RESTAURANTS, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, VENUES THAT, UM, UH, PROPOSE THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR BOTH ON AND OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTION JANUARY REQUIRE, UH, ARE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT PROCESS. 
          SO, UM, WITH THE PROPOSED BISCUIT BAR LOCATION AT THE PRESTONWOOD PLACE DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY IN THE FORMER SERVICE MERCHANDISE BUILDING, UH, AND THE CURRENT CATAPULT HEALTH AND MEDICINE WITH FARMS BUILDING, UH, THIS APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT YOU DETERMINE THE APPROPRIATENESS OF BOTH A RESTAURANT USE, AS WELL AS, UH, THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION AT THIS LOCATION. 
          SO BISCUIT BAR IS A LOCAL REC RESTAURANT CONCEPT, UH, DFW, UH, IT IS A SOUTHERN FAST CASUAL CONCEPT. 
          THEIR SPECIALTY IS BISCUIT SANDWICHES, CRAFT COCKTAILS, CRAFT BEERS, AS WELL AS COFFEE. 
          UM, AND THIS WILL BE A MEET THEIR SIX LOCATION HERE IN THE DFW METROPLEX, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A ZONING HISTORY, UH, ON THIS SITE, AS YOU'RE AWARE, UM, VERY RECENTLY IN 2019, YOU APPROVED A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT ZONING TO FACILITATE REINVESTMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT, UH, IN THE PRESTON WOOD PLACE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, YOU'RE SEEING A LOT OF ACTIVITY AND THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE, UH, AT THIS SITE IN MAY, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER APPLICATION FOR YOU. 
          UM, BUT REALLY AT THIS LOCATION, LISTEN, THIS'LL BE ANOTHER GROUND FLOOR RESTAURANT, UH, SUPPORT IN THE SECOND STORY OFFICE, THE OPEN SPACE, AND THEN THE OTHER RESTAURANT SPACE THAT OCCUPIES THAT BUILDING AS WELL. 
          UH, SO FOR THIS SPACE, UH, IT PROPOSES JUST OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET OF INTERIOR FOR AREA AND JUST UNDER 400 SQUARE FEET OF PATIO SPACE. 
          UH, IN TOTAL, UH, YOU'LL HAVE SEATING SPACE ON INDOORS FOR 123 AND THEN OUTDOORS FOR 34. 
          AND ONCE AGAIN, IT WILL INCLUDE, UH, ALCOHOL SALES FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION. 
          [02:20:01]
UM, WITH THIS SITE, WE LOOK AT PARKING, UH, AS PART OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT. 
          UM, SO FOR PRESTON WOULD PLACE, UM, PARKING PROVIDED CURRENTLY EXCEEDS PARKING REQUIRED FOR 93 SPACES. 
          SO NO IMPACT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, ALSO WITH THE PREVIOUS PD APPROVAL, UM, YOU APPROVED OPEN SPACE, UH, WITHIN THE CENTER AND THEN ALSO LANDSCAPE, UH, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE THAT WAS ADDED WITHIN THE PARKING AREA, ALONG THE STOREFRONTS, AND THEN AT THE STREETSCAPE AS WELL. 
          UH, NO ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE IS REQUIRED, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLANS. 
          AND THEN, UM, AS FAR AS THE EXTERIOR FACADES, UH, THE APPLICANTS PROPOSING LIMITED CHANGES, UH, AS YOU'RE PROBABLY AWARE, UM, MUCH OF THAT FACADE HAS ALREADY ALREADY BEEN IMPROVED AND RENOVATED WITH THE ONGOING ACTIVITY IN THAT BUILDING. 
          SO THEY'RE PRIMARILY, UH, PROPOSING, UH, A FINISH OUT TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR PATIO SPACE. 
          SO MINOR PAINTING, LIGHTING IMPROVEMENTS, UH, SOME, SOME OUTDOOR DINING FURNITURE AND THEN THE SIGN ISSUE. 
          SO WE DON'T TYPICALLY ADDRESS SIGNS IN THESE, THESE SPECIAL USE PERMIT REVIEWS, BUT BECAUSE OF OUR STANDARD LANGUAGE, AS IT RELATES TO, UH, ALCOHOL ORIENTED LANGUAGE AND SIGNAGE, THIS HAS BAR, UM, BUT IT IS A COMPONENT OF THEIR BUSINESS NAME. 
          SO WE HAVE, UH, CREATED A CONDITION FOR YOU TO, UM, ACT ON TONIGHT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE USE OF THAT TERM AND THEIR EXTERIOR SIGNAGE ONLY TO ACCOUNT FOR THEIR BUSINESS NAME AND NOT ANY OTHER ALCOHOL ORIENTED SIGNAGE COMPONENTS, UM, WITH THE SITE. 
          UH, SO AT THE MARCH 16TH PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, WE DID NOT HAVE ANY, UH, PEOPLE SPEAK ON THIS ITEM OUTSIDE OF THE APPLICANT AND THE COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE CONDITION. 
          UH, WE NOTE HERE AS IT RELATES TO, UH, EXCLUDING ANY TERMS OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS THAT RELATE TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, ANY EXTERIOR SIGNAGE WITH THE EXCEPTION, ONCE AGAIN, A WHISKEY BAR HAVING TO ANSWER ANYTHING THAT, THAT TERM, YOU KNOW, BAR HAS BECOME SO POPULAR. 
          YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BLOW DRY BAR FOR WOMEN AND, AND, AND THE BISCUIT BAR, IT JUST FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE CONCEPT. 
          IT'S, IT'S FINE. 
          THEY WILL BE SELLING OUT. 
          YES. 
          HELLO. 
          HELLO, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE. 
          AND ALICIA TOMLIN. 
          WELCOME TO THE COUNCIL MEETING. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE JUST WANTED TO SAY WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS LOCATION AND BRING, UM, UH, REALLY FUN FAMILY FRIENDLY BRUNCH CONCEPT THAT ALSO IS GREAT FOR DINNER AND LUNCH TOO. 
          UH, THERE'S REALLY NO WRONG TIME WITH THE DAY FOR A BISCUIT OR TALK TO ME. 
          UM, AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          ALL GOD HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB. 
          UH, WE ARE LOOKING AFTER THOSE MEETINGS, UM, TO GET IN FOR, UM, THE PERMIT AND BEGAN CONSTRUCTION, AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE TO OBTAIN IT, EVERYTHING IS READY TO GO. 
          UM, AND I KNOW THAT SIGNAGE WILL BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY, SO THAT'LL BE AS SEPARATE TO THE MIDDLE WITH THE SIGNAGE VENDOR. 
          AND WE HAVE ALL OF YOUR NOTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. 
          AND WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO COMING INTO ABSENCE. 
          SHOULD WE COMBINE BISCUIT SANDWICH THERE? THERE THERE'S BISCUITS BEHIND ME. 
          IT'S MY BACKGROUND EVERYWHERE. 
          THERE IS GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WE WERE LOOKING AT EYE OPENING, UM, WITHIN ABOUT 120 250 DAYS OF CONSTRUCTION START. 
          AND HOPEFULLY AFTER THIS MEETING WOULD BE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT AND BY THE END OF NEXT MONTH AND START LATE NEXT MONTH OR EARLY JUNE AND BE OPEN IN LATE OCTOBER. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          SO I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT JUST THIS GETS IN GENERAL AND ANY TRENDING FADS. 
          IS THERE SUCH A THING AS A KID, THE BISCUIT IMAGINARY QUITO, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU EAT IT ON A SUNDAY. 
          THOSE ARE THE LORD'S CALORIES AND IT DOESN'T COUNT. 
           NO MORE QUESTIONS. 
           NO MORE QUESTION. 
          [02:25:01]
ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS AUDIENCE IS LISTED AS PART OF THE HEARING AS WELL. 
          ANYONE IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM, PLEASE DO SO ANYBODY CALLING YES, SIR. 
          OR IT SAYS NO IN PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          I HEAR WHY I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          DO I HAVE EMOTION AS A NEIGHBOR? I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL MOTION FROM IVAN HUGHES SET OF A LAWYER WOR ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS, YOU SAY, AYE, JUST REAL QUICK DISCUSSION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I MEAN, I LOVE THE NAME, BUT I'M CONCERNED LATER. 
          UM, WHAT OTHER OTHERS ARE GONNA WANT, WANT THE SAME? I'M JUST OUT THERE. 
          I, THE FIRST TIME I SAW THIS BISCUIT BAR, BUT ALSO I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, JUST A NAIL BAR, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY USES A BAR. 
          AND SO THAT, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE REASON, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, EDITOR REPORT MENTIONED THE, UH, REAL RULES FOR USING BAR OR KEVIN OR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH ALCOHOL. 
          SO, UH, SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT TO SAY, BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS AGREEING WITH BASICALLY IS THE ORIGINAL NAME. 
          SO, YEAH. 
          AND I DON'T THINK WE WOULD HAVE YOU PUSHED BACK LATER IF, IF IT WASN'T AN ALCOHOLIC ESTABLISH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE NAIL SALON NAIL PART IS NOT SELLING ALCOHOL. 
          I'M JUST, I LOVE THE NAME. 
          I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE, LET'S BE COGNIZANT THAT OTHER FOLKS ARE GOING TO COME IN HERE AND ASK YOU THAT. 
          WELL, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKSTORY ABOUT THE BISCUIT BAR AND THE REASON BEHIND THE NAME, AND IT IS TRADEMARK. 
          IF YOU GO TO THE WEBSITE, OUR FOUNDERS, JAKE, AND JANEY BURKHEAD, UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UH, THEY SH WHEN JENNY WAS PREGNANT, UM, SHE HAD A SET OF TWINS, BLAKE AND MARCY. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, BOTH OF THE TWINS WERE BORN WITH A LOT OF SEVERE MEDICAL ISSUES. 
          AND BRIAN C DIDN'T MAKE IT. 
          AND JANIE WOULD COOK THESE BIG BISCUIT FEASTS AT HER HOUSE WHEN EVERYBODY WAS COMING OVER AND SUPPORT OF THEM AND THE DAUGHTER THAT THEY HAD JUST LOST. 
          AND EVERYBODY KEPT SAYING HOW DELICIOUS IT WAS AND HOW GOOD HER BISCUITS WERE. 
          AND SHE WOULD SET UP A LARGE BAR ON HER COUNTER FOR EVERYBODY TO MAKE THEIR OWN BISCUITS, HOWEVER THEY WANT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE PASSING OF HER DAUGHTER, A FABLE WALL. 
          SO PRICEY IS HOW THE BISCUIT BAR WAS FORMED AND STARTED. 
          AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ESCOBAR BAR DOES IS, UM, THEY'RE HUGE SUPPORTER OF MARCH OF DIMES. 
          UM, AND EVERY YEAR THERE'S PROMOTIONS SUCH AS, UM, BISCUITS FOR BRICEY TO WHERE THE BISCUIT BAR GIVES A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR SALES BACK. 
          AND I'M SORRY, IT'S LIKE SUCH A SWEET STORY. 
          AND I LOVE HIM SO MUCH. 
          UM, THEY GIVE A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR SALES BACK, UM, TO HELP WITH PREMATURE BIRTH, THEN GIVE BACK TO THE MARCH IN ARMS AND WHICH IS BIG, BIG, UM, CALLERS IN THEIR HEART. 
          THAT'S INTERESTING. 
          ONE OF ALCOHOLIC NATURE, IT WAS BORN UP LIKE, UM, SET UP FOR A FISCAL OR A BUILDER ESCAPE. 
          I THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE DESCRIBING THAT, I THOUGHT OF HIM BIG POTATO BAR, YOU KNOW, JUST START WITH THE POTATO AND THEN YOU BUILD IT, BUILD IT. 
          AND THEN I, HAVEN'T JUST MENTIONED A SALAD BAR, WHICH YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT. 
          THAT'S THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ME CONTEXT BEHIND THEIR STORY. 
          IT WOULD BE CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE. 
          THEY HAVE, THEY, THEY HAD THEIR STORY ON THERE. 
          I THINK THEY'VE BEEN GROWING THEIR FAMILY AND THEY REALLY ARE LIKE THIS, WE AS COUPLE EVER. 
          AND, UM, THEY JUST DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          CONSTANTLY QUESTION. 
          NO, I'M JUST MAKING A POINT. 
          I THINK WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, CAUSE IT SEEMS NOT. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I'M, I'M SAYING I'M CONNECTING BAR WITH ALCOHOL BAR SIGNAGE WITH ALCOHOL AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT HERE AND I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE, IS THE CALLS THEMSELVES IN THE SALAD BAR, THE NAIL BAR THAT DOESN'T SELL ALCOHOL. 
          I THINK THAT'S LIKE SAID SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. 
          I THINK WE ALL AGREE TO THAT, BUT I, AGAIN, I LIKE THIS NAME AND IF WE WANT TO IMPROVE IT, GREAT, IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT. 
          [02:30:01]
BUT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP ISSUES LATER. 
          AND I THINK EVERY ONE OF US KNOWS THAT I WISH SOMEBODY CORRECT ME IF THEY THINK I'M WRONG. 
          IF ANOTHER BUSINESS, I WOULD SAY ANOTHER BUSINESS SAY 10 YEARS FROM NOW CALLED THE DUMPLING BAR PRESENTS TO THE COUNCIL. 
          AND IT'S SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, TO THIS CONCEPT, I WOULD BE INCLINED TO IMPROVE IT FROM IT. 
          I WOULD BE. 
          I JUST THINK IT'S MORE ABOUT A TRADEMARK NAME. 
          IT'S DIFFERENT FROM, IF YOU SAY TEQUILA BAR MAY DRIVE IN RESTAURANT AND BAR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THAT'S REFERRED TO THE BARS SELLING ALCOHOL, RIGHT? SO, SO FOR SIMPLIFY THAT, SO WE'LL USE MAY DRIVE IT. 
          SO, BUT YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF THE NATURE IS NOT PROMOTING ALCOHOL, THAT'S QUITE A 10 IS ONLY COMMISSION ONE OF THE US TO CLARIFY THIS REGIONAL ONE TO PROMOTE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. 
          I THINK THAT'S IT. 
          BUT THEY DO RIGHT. 
          BUT THEY DO SELL IT RIGHT. 
          RESTAURANTS. 
          WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS MAYBE IMPROVING IT AND MAKING AN EXCEPTION, BASICALLY NAMING POLICY. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO RECOMMEND IT WITH APPROVAL OF THE APPROPRIATE WORDING. 
          I'M JUST POINTING NOW WHERE THIS IS LEADING WAVE. 
          I THINK THAT THIS DISCUSSION IS A MATTER OF RECORD AND STAFF HEARS THIS DISCUSSION. 
          AND, AND SO I THINK STANFORD GETS AS CLEAR ON THE DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY THAT COMES UP, THAT THAT MAY SPEAK TO THIS OR WHATEVER. 
          SO I'M COMFORTABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD A CANDID, HONEST DISCUSSION ABOUT IT. 
          AND IF, IF CAN SEE SOMETHING AND IT'S PLAYING GAMES HERE, YOU, YOU CLEARLY HEARD WHAT THE COUNCIL HAS SAID. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HOPE YOU CLEAR UP. 
          AND SO, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE ISSUE. 
          I THINK THE QUESTION IS WHAT, WHAT DOES OUR ORDINANCE SAY AND WHAT EXCEPTIONS DO PEOPLE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IN THE FUTURE? THIS IS NOT A NEW CONVERSATION, RIGHT? BJ'S BREWHOUSE RESTAURANT, YOU KNOW, INSERT NAME HERE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE DATA IS. 
          SO IN THE FUTURE, WHEN SOMEBODY COMES IN AND SAYS, WE WANT AN EMAR, OUR RESTAURANT, WHATEVER IT IS, AND WE WANT A TEQUILA CUP, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SERVE THE Q AND A CUP, WHATEVER IT'S CALLED GLASS OR WHATEVER, SORRY. 
          UH, THEN WE'LL JUST TELL THEM IF THEY WANT TO APPLY FOR AN EXCEPTION, THEN WE'LL PRESENT THE EXCEPTION. 
          BUT I MEAN, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONS MADE A PROPOSAL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. 
          NOW IT'S TIME TO ACT. 
          I CONCUR. 
          I THINK IT'S CALLED OUT AS AN EXCEPTION. 
          AND I THINK TAKING COGNIZANCE OF IT IS THING. 
          UM, I'M STARTING TO RECOGNIZE WHY LEGAL IS RECOMMENDING. 
          WE REVIEW OUR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE, UH, TERMS, POLICY, SAME GUY, BUT I JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT BEFORE WE GO OUT ON THE STAND, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL INTENT TO PROMOTE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE HOLLICK BEVERAGES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO AS I HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, BUT I MEAN, HE WAS SECOND PRIORITY AWARD, ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THIS  RELATIONS VERY MUCH. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          YES. 
          APPLY FOR , UH, LOOK, LOOK ALIKE, UH, ALL GUYS ISOLATED, 
          [14.  Hold a Public Hearing, Discuss, and Consider Action on an Ordinance Changing the Zoning on Property Located at 14310 Marsh Lane, Which Property is Currently Zoned Planned Development (PD) Through Ordinance 007-034, as Amended by Ordinances O13-026, O16-017, O16-018, and O19-06, by Approving a Special Use Permit for a New Restaurant with Drive-Thru Only Service. Case 1825-SUP/ Dutch Bros Coffee.]
THEN NUMBER 14, CALL THE PROPERTY HERE AND DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ACTION ON AUDIENCE, CHANGING THE ZONING ON PROPERTY, OR GIVE THAT ONE FOUR, THREE, ONE ZERO MARSHLAND, WHICH PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN ROOM PLAN INVOLVEMENT, PV THROUGH ORDINANCE ZERO SEVEN OH THREE FOUR. 
          HE HAS A MANDATED BY ORDINANCE ZERO (130) 260-1617 
          [02:35:03]
(160) 180-1965. 
          APPROVING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEW RESTAURANT WITH DRIVE-THROUGH ONLY SERVICE CASE NUMBER ONE EIGHT TWO FIVE, SUP DUTCH BROTHERS COFFEE. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          ONCE AGAIN, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, 10 SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES VERY BUSY TODAY. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IN ADDISON RESTAURANT, NEW RESTAURANTS GENERALLY ARE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, PRIOR TO ESTABLISHING, UH, OCCUPANCY, UH, IN A BUILDING. 
          UM, SO WITH THIS REQUEST TONIGHT, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TO CONFIRM THE APPROPRIATENESS OF A NEW COFFEE SHOP, UH, WITH DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITIES ONLY AND WALK UP, I SHOULD SAY, AS WELL, UH, AT THE BROOKHAVEN VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER, THAT'S GENERALLY LOCATED, UH, AT THE EASTERN FRONTAGE OF MARSHALL LANE, UH, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF SPRING VALLEY ROAD. 
          SO THE APPLICANT IS DUTCH BROS COFFEE, UH, THAT IS AN OREGON BASED, UH, COFFEE CHAIN, UH, THAT IS, UH, RECENTLY, UH, MADE AND HEAVY INVESTMENT, UH, HERE IN TEXAS. 
          UH, THEY DO HAVE SOME LOCATIONS THAT RECENTLY OPENED IN CENTRAL TEXAS CALL STATION AND COLLEEN, AND, UM, ADDISON IS ONE OF THE FIRST LOCATIONS THEY'RE PURSUING, UH, HERE IN NORTH TEXAS. 
          UH, FIRST ONE THAT WILL BE OPEN, WILL BE IN MCKINNEY AND THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY DO HAVE PLANS FOR LOCATIONS IN OTHER, UH, DFW CITIES. 
          UM, SO A LITTLE BIT OF ZONING HISTORY. 
          UH, THIS, UH, THE BROOKHAVEN VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER, UH, WAS REZONED, UH, TO PD BACK IN NOVEMBER OF 2007, UH, AS PART OF CONSIDERATION OF THE VITRUVIAN PARK DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO FACILITATE, UH, REINVESTMENT IN THE CENTER. 
          UM, THE VITRUVIAN PARK DEVELOPMENT TEAM ULTIMATELY, UH, CAME FORWARD IN MAY OF 2016, UH, TO SEEK AMENDMENTS, TV, EATING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS IT RELATES TO THIS BLOCK. 
          AND, UH, SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT, UH, UH, RESULTED, UH, WHERE TO REALLY FACILITATE REINVESTMENT IN THIS BLOCK AND, AND ULTIMATELY TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF, TO DRIVE THROUGH PENN SITES. 
          UM, ONE OF WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT AT THE MARSHALING FRONTAGE. 
          UM, SO WITH THIS PROPOSED USE, UH, DEF BROS COFFEE IS PROPOSING 950 SQUARE FEET OF INTERIOR FLOOR AREA. 
          ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S ONLY FOR EMPLOYEES AND DRINK PREP, UH, AND THEN, UH, 336 SQUARE FEET OF PATIO SPACE. 
          AND THAT WILL PROVIDE, UH, A FEW TABLES FOR FOLKS THAT WANT TO WALK UP AND DYING, UH, ONSITE. 
          UM, SINCE THIS IS A DRIVE-THRU DOMINANT, UH, CONCEPT, UH, THEY HAD PROVIDED ONSITE CAPACITY FOR 29 VEHICLES, UH, QUEUING. 
          UH, THEY DO HAVE A DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH LANE ON THAT WRAPS AROUND THE EASTERN AND NORTHERN FRONTAGE OF THEIR BUILDING. 
          AND THEN THEY ALSO ACCOMMODATE 43 PARKING SPACES OFF STREET, WHICH IS WELL ABOVE WHAT IS REQUIRED BY KEVIN. 
          UM, ONE THING TO NOTE, UH, THEY ALSO PROVIDED FOR A, UH, NEW, UH, ACCESS DRIVE, UH, CONNECTING THE, UH, WORK HAVEN VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER, UH, TO MARSHALL LANE, THAT'S AT THE NORTHERN, UH, LIMIT OF THIS SITE, UH, AND THAT WAS ABLE TO BE ACCOMMODATED, UH, BECAUSE THAT ACCESS WAS INCLUDED IN THE PREVIOUS ZONING REQUEST THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2016. 
          SO WITH REGARDS TO THE PD STANDARDS AND THE COMPLIANCE OF THIS SITE, UH, THIS PLAN, UH, FULLY COMPLIES WITH THE, UH, LOT DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS, UH, AND BUILDING HEIGHT AND AS WELL IN EXCESS AND THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF THAT PD, UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING NEW LANDSCAPING, UH, INTERNAL TO THE SITE. 
          AND ALSO WITH THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY, THEY, UM, UM, FULLY COMPLIED WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLANS AND THAT, UH, MARSH LANE EDGE HAS THE SIDEWALK AND LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED IN THAT AREA. 
          UM, THE PAGE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION FOR THIS CASE IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, WAS HOW, UM, SITE GENERATED TRAFFIC OR WE HANDLED, UM, NOT ONLY WHEN THE SITE OPENS, BUT ALSO, UH, AS THE GRAND OPENING PERIOD PASSES AND NORMAL OPERATIONS OCCUR. 
          UM, SOME COMPARISONS WERE MADE TO THE STARBUCKS AT MIDWAY AND BELTLINE 
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AND ISSUES THAT WE WISH TO AVOID AT THIS SITE. 
          UH, AND THEN ALSO JUST, UH, SOME GENERAL CONCERN, UH, AT THE SITES, WHETHER IT BE OPERATIONAL CONTROLS, DUTCH BROS, UH, EMPLOYEES, AND THE, AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY PROVIDE ON SITE CAN HANDLE THE TRAFFIC IMPACT OF THE PROJECT. 
          UM, SO SINCE, UH, THAT, UH, P AND Z DISCUSSION WAS HELD, AND REALLY WITH THAT DISCUSSION, THE COMMISSION PASSED, UH, THEY ULTIMATELY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THEIR REQUEST, BUT THEY ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, OBTAIN STAFF APPROVAL OF A TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN PRIOR TO SITE DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING, UH, FOR THIS USE. 
          UM, SO STAFF HAS INITIATED THOSE DISCUSSIONS. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE PROVIDED A TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN, UM, WITH YOUR PACKET. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY ADDRESSED WITH THAT TRAFFIC MITIGATION PLAN IS FIRST UNDERSTANDING HOW DUTCH BROS OPERATES AS A COMPANY. 
          UM, THEY'RE A LITTLE UNIQUE, DEFINITELY UNIQUE AS IT RELATES TO COMPARING IT TO SAY STARBUCKS OR A DUNKIN DONUTS OR OTHER MORE TRADITIONAL DRIVE-THROUGH COFFEE SHOP. 
          THEY REALLY EMPLOY THE CHICK-FIL-A MODEL OF SERVICE. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO A, UH, ORDER WINDOW, AND THEN ULTIMATELY, UM, PULLING FORWARD AND PICKING UP YOUR COFFEE AND PAYING THAT ANOTHER WINDOW, ALL OF THEIR SERVICES DONE BY RUNNERS. 
          SO SOMEONE'S GOING TO COME TO YOU AT YOUR CAR AS YOU, UH, ENTER THE SITE AND TAKE YOUR ORDER. 
          AND THEN AS ORDERS ARE COMPLETED, YOU'LL KEEP THROUGH THE SITE AND SOMEONE WILL COME BACK TO YOU, UM, UH, OBTAIN PAYMENT, UM, AND ALSO DELIVER YOUR COFFEE, OF COURSE. 
          SO THAT CHANGES THINGS A BIT AND ALLOWS THEM TO CYCLE PEOPLE IN AND OUT MORE EFFICIENTLY WITH THAT HUMAN EXPERIENCE. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UH, THEY PROVIDED SOME ENGINEERING ANALYSIS AND OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS WITH REGARDS TO HOW, UH, ADDITIONAL STACKING COULD BE ACHIEVED ON THE SITE, PARTICULARLY DOING THE DURING THE GRAND OPENING PERIOD STAFF IS NOT TREMENDOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT NORMAL OPERATIONS. 
          UH, WE FEEL THE 29 ONSITE QUEUING SPACES, AS WELL AS THE 43 PARKING SPACES SHOULD ADEQUATELY, UH, AND BE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO ADDRESS THE DEMAND OR DURING NORMAL OPERATIONS WHERE YOU CAN PROBABLY RUN INTO SOME ISSUES. 
          DUTCH BROS IS A VERY POPULAR CONCEPT IN THE WEST COAST. 
          A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE MOVED TO DFW FROM THE WEST COAST. 
          SO, WHEREAS I MAY NOT KNOW DUTCH BROS, OTHER FOLKS MAY BE REALLY EXCITED FOR DUTCH BROS. 
          SO YOU MAY HAVE A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT FOR THE GRAND OPENING. 
          I SAY THAT IT'S NOT A BAD THING. 
          THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. 
          BUT P AND Z WAS VERY CONCERNED THAT WE MITIGATED THOSE IMPACTS. 
          SO DOES BROS, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ON THE LINE. 
          THEY CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THEIR OPERATIONAL CONCERNS, BUT ONE THING THAT THEY DID COMMIT TO, UH, FOR THE GRAND OPENING PERIOD IS TO HAVE, UM, THIRD PARTY ONSITE OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS TO SUPPORT, UH, TRAFFIC ONSITE. 
          SO IF THERE'S AN ISSUE WHERE TRAFFIC STARTS TO BACK UP, AND ONE OF THE DRIVEWAY FOR IT'S THE MARSH LANE, THERE'S GOING TO BE STAFFED FROM DUTCH BROS OR THOSE OFF DUTY POLICE OFFICERS DIRECTING THEM INTO THE TOWN BUNK PARKING LOT AND, AND, AND HAVING, UH, DIRECTOR OF THE NORTH TO AN AREA THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE DISTURBING THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN THAT CENTER. 
          SO WE FEEL THAT DUTCH BROS IS ON THE RIGHT PATH. 
          AND WITH THAT PARTICULAR CONDITION, HAVING ONSITE, UM, TRAFFIC CONTROL DURING THAT GRAND OPENING PERIOD, WE REALLY THINK THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ANY TRAFFIC IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          I THINK ONE MORE REASON, UH, THE COLLAR QUEUE BEING A VERY LONG ROAD BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE EFFICIENT SERVICE IF THEY HAVE ENOUGH STAFF WELL-PREPARED, IF YOU RECENTLY GO TO OTHER FAST FOOD PLACES, SUCH AS MCDONALD'S, YOU WAIT FOR A LONG TIME, BECAUSE THEY ARE SHORT STAFFED, YOU CAN SEE THE CARTOON 10, 12 CARS, THE WAITING FOR 20 MINUTES FOR FAST FOOD. 
          SO TURN OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU, THEY HAVE A SHORTAGE OF STAFF. 
          SO IF A SUCCESSFUL DRIVES TO THE BUSINESS, THEY HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH STAFF SPEED, EFFICIENT SERVICE IS THE KEY IF THEY WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND I, I HAVE, I MEAN, JUST MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC ISSUE. 
          IF IN FACT THEY'RE AS POPULAR AS IT SEEMS LIKE THEY COULD BE, IF THEY'RE AS POPULAR AS CHICK-FIL-A EVEN WITH THE SPEED OF SERVICE, THAT'S MY PLEASURE AND THE PEOPLE WITH THE IPADS AND ALL OF THAT. 
          THERE ARE TRAFFIC 
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ISSUES WITH MANY CHICK-FIL-AS. 
          UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC. 
          I MEAN, PARKING SPACE HAS RELEVANT, UM, BUT I'M GONNA USE THE DRIVE-THRU TO GO. 
          WHEN I GO TO STARBUCKS, I USE THE DRIVE THROUGH, WHEN I GO TO DUTCH BROS, I'M GOING TO USE THE DRIVE-THRU FOR CONVENIENCE. 
          AND THAT IS A PATHWAY TO, AND FROM A WORK COMMUTERS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          AND I UNDERSTAND, I DO SEE THE LINKS THAT THEY'D GONE TO FOR THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC MITIGATION ON THIS UPFRONT DISCUSSION. 
          I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IT AND WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING POLICE ON STAFF, HOW IS THAT JUST FOR THE GRAND OPENING? THAT SEEMS LIKE A DRASTIC, IT SEEMS LIKE A COSTLY THING FOR THEM TO KEEP, KEEP CONTINUING. 
          THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION THAT THEY COULD, THEY COULD RESPOND TO, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR EXCITING CONCEPT, LOVE THE CONCEPT. 
          UH, I'M A COFFEE PERSON, SO THIS SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE CONCEPT, BUT I AM SUPER CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC POTENTIAL TRAFFIC. 
          I THINK IT COULD BE, I THINK IT COULD BE A TRAFFIC ISSUE. 
          SORRY, PAUL. 
          I THINK IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A TRAFFIC ISSUE AFTER THE GRAND OPENING. 
          I DO. 
          BUT BACK IN AT MARSH MARSHALL LANE, MARSHALL LANE IS THE CONCERN. 
          WELL, WE CAN,  THE QUESTION WAS, UH, ON THE WALK-OFF IS IT GOING TO BE THIS SEPARATE UP TO ORDER FROM, CAUSE YOU MENTIONED WALK UP TRAFFIC AND DRIVE THROUGH TRAFFIC. 
          YES. 
          I BELIEVE YOU CAN SEE IT IN THE AFRICAN IT'S. 
          OKAY. 
          FOR ME, I'M JUST KIND OF THROWING THAT OUT THERE, I GUESS. 
          DID YOU SAY THAT THE APPLICANT IS WITH US? I BELIEVE THEY ARE. 
          I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A, UH, A ROSTER OF WHO'S ON THIS. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JEFF BENNETT, UM, I'M THE DIRECTOR OF CONSTRUCTION FOR DUTCH BROS. 
          UH, AND I CAN SPEAK TO, UH, TO THIS, UH, TO THIS ISSUE. 
          UH, WE HAD, WE HAD A WALK-UP, UH, WHERE PEOPLE CAN D WALK UP AND, UH, AND TAKE ORDERS, BUT, UM, OUR OPERATION IS SET UP IN SUCH A MANNER TO WHERE OUR GOAL IS TO GET, UH, GET OUR PATRONS OUT WITHIN A MINUTE. 
          AND IDEALLY WITHIN ABOUT 45 SECONDS, THAT'S GENERALLY OUR, OUR, UH, OUR AVERAGE AND THAT'S WOULD BE THE SAME THING THAT WE DO HERE. 
          UH, WHEN WE HAD OUR GRAND OPENINGS, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL OUR, WE CALL IT THE, UH, OUR MOB MOBSTERS. 
          AND SO WHAT THAT IS IS THAT WE HAVE SOME BEST OR THE BEST FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WILL COME AND SUPPORT THE ACTUAL TEAM THAT'LL BE WORKING THERE. 
          SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN THE STORE OPENS IT, WON'T JUST BE THE, UH, THE OPERATOR AND THE NEW HIRES HERE LO WILL ALSO BE SOME OF THE BEST, UH, UH, REAL EAST IS WHAT WE CALL, UH, ONSITE AT THAT TIME THAT WILL BE ASSISTED WITH THAT. 
          SO NOT ONLY WILL WE HAVE THIRD PARTY, UH, SUPPORT, UH, WHETHER THAT BE BY WAY OF POLICE THAT WE HIRE, UH, OR SOME OTHER, UH, FORM, WE WILL ALSO HAVE PEOPLE ON STAFF THAT WILL BE THERE AS WELL TO HELP MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC DURING OUR, UH, DURING OUR INITIAL RENT OPENING PERIOD. 
          BUT AS FULFILLING OPERATION STANDPOINT, IF WE ARE THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT WE HAVE IS DICTATED BY THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE. 
          SO HAVE A METAL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER IS, BUT WE DO HAVE A MINIMUM NUMBER OF, UH, RUNNERS. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, BUT LET'S SAY IF THIS ENDED UP BEING A PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE A LARGER VOLUME OVER AFTER THE GRAND OPENING PERIOD, THEN WE WOULD HIRE STAFF AS NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THAT, UH, THAT TIME, THAT TIMETABLE FOR, UH, BETWEEN ORDER AND EXIT FOR THE PATRONS. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US, UH, WITH IT BEING A PRIMARY PRIMARY, THE DRIVE THROUGH CONCEPT THAT ARE, IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE BARISTA AND THE PATRON IN THE DRIVE-THROUGH. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S A GOOD INTERACTION, UH, A REAL POSITIVE WHEN THEY LEAVE WITH THEIR COFFEE. 
          WE, WE ALWAYS SAY ABOUT WHAT WE SHARE, WE SHARE LEFT, UH, IN THE DRIVE-THROUGH. 
          SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THEM 
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IN, AND THAT'S A HAPPY EXPERIENCE. 
          AND WHEN THEY LEAVE OUR SITE, THAT THEY'RE, THEY FEEL BETTER THAN THEY CAN THAN THEY DID WHEN THEY LEFT, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE. 
          UH, SO WE WILL ACCOMMODATE, UM, THE, THE, UH, THE LOAD BASED ON, UH, AFTER, AFTER THE GRAND OPENING, AS WE FILLED AS NECESSARY. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, SO THEN WE SAY THIRD ONE IS, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED ABOUT THE THIRD PARTY. 
          I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR THAT YES, WE WILL HIRE A THIRD PARTY, WHETHER THAT'D BE POLICED OR SOME OTHER SORT OF OUTSIDE SOURCE, BUT WE WILL ALSO DO THAT INTERNALLY BY HIRING ADDITIONAL BREWERIES, JUST TO HELP SERVE DRIVE THE BEST. 
          UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY ABOUT, UH, MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T BACKUP ONTO MARSH LANE. 
          UM, I LIVE HERE LOCALLY, UH, IN EAST DALLAS. 
          AND SO I'M VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA AND SHARE THE CONCERNS OF THE COUNCIL. 
          UH, SO WE WANT, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A BACKUP ONTO MARSH LANE, UH, AT ANY TIME. 
          AND SO WE'VE BEEN, UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THAT. 
          WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT EVIDENCE THAT OUR INTENT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN AS BEST WE CAN. 
          MR. BARRETT, THIS IS . 
          CAN YOU TELL ME YOU TYPICALLY HAVE SOFT OPENINGS OR DO YOU JUST BARE OUT FROM WORST? CAN YOU TELL ME IF YOU HAVE A SOFT OPENING TO FIRST OPEN YOUR STORES, OR DO YOU JUST START WITH A OPENING? I'M SORRY, I KIND OF MUFFLED A LITTLE BIT. 
          REPEAT THAT. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME IF YOU HAVE A SOFT OPENING? YEAH, WE TOOK A LOT OF TIMES WHAT WE CALL A FRIENDS AND FAMILY. 
          UM, AND SO WE WILL HAVE A SOFT OPENING SOMETIMES. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ON, ON THE CALL FROM OPERATIONS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF ON THIS PROJECT, UH, UH, WE, IF WE WILL HAVE THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THAT LAST ONE, I OPENED WAS A MIDWEST CITY AND WE DID THAT, AND THAT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TEST THE EQUIPMENT AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS RUNNING PROPERLY BECAUSE WE, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE DEAL WITH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS RUNNING, RUNNING SMOOTHLY. 
          UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO AND HAVE DONE ON SOME PRODUCTS. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE DO IT ON ALL PROJECTS, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MANY TIMES, IF YOU'VE DONE THIS, HOW MANY GRAND OPEN TO BE ENEMY STORES DO YOU HAVE? UH, THE, SEE, I THINK WE OVERALL TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE ORDER OF 430 STORES IN THE SYSTEM OVERALL IN, UH, IN THE S IN TEXAS RIGHT NOW, UH, WE HAVE TWO, TWO OPERATIONAL, UH, THE ONE IN BIKINI THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ANTICIPATE THAT ONE GOING LIVE BY THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHERS THAT ARE GONNA COME ONLINE HERE PRETTY QUICKLY. 
          WHAT COME ARE YOUR EXPECTED, UH, OPERATION? OUR OPERATIONS, UM, USUALLY IS SOMEWHERE AROUND, I THINK IT'S LIKE SEVEN O'CLOCK, SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO ABOUT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. 
          UM, AND WHAT, I DON'T KNOW, I'M FAIRLY NEW TO THE, TO THE COMPANY, IF THAT VARIES BASED ON, UH, BASED ON THEIR STUDIES OR NOT, OR IF THAT'S JUST STANDARD ACROSS THE BOARD THAT I DON'T KNOW, THAT'S GENERALLY A BIT OUR TIMETABLE, UM, LIKE THE ONE AND EXCUSE ME, THE ONE HAND THAT MIDWEST CITY THAT WE JUST OPENED, I KNOW ON FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS, THE LECTURE OF YOKO TWO 11, THERE THAT'S THE FIRST ONE IN PARK. 
          SO IT MAY VERY WELL BE THE SAME YEAR. 
          YEAH, I'M SORRY. 
          I MUST HAVE BEEN TALKING TO MYSELF. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE STANDARD OPERATING HOURS AND IT'S DEPENDING ON THE MARKET, IF IT TYPICALLY IS, UM, ONE WE'RE GOOD IN DALLAS IS FIVE TO 10. 
          UM, AND WE GO SOMETIMES SIX TO 11. 
          SO, UM, WE DO AT STANDING ROCK RIGHT NOW. 
          WE REALLY TALK ABOUT HARTFORD WHEN WE OPENED THE DOORS. 
          UH, THE RESPONSE IS JUST OVERWHELMING. 
          UM, BUT WE DO HAVE WHAT WE CALL FRIENDS AND FAMILY, AND WE WILL HAVE IT FOR THIS ONE. 
          AND TYPICALLY WE LIKE TO OPEN IT ON A FRIDAY AND THE FRIENDS AND FAMILY IS ON WEDNESDAY. 
          IN FACT, WE'RE GOING TO BE OPEN IN ANOTHER, ANOTHER SHOP IN BRYAN, TEXAS NEXT WEEK. 
          SO LIKE FRIENDS AND FAMILY ON WEDNESDAY, AND WE'LL OPEN ON FRIDAY, KIND OF LIKE WE HAVE TO DO. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE RESPONSE TO THOSE ARE, ARE VERY, UM, VERY GOOD FOR THE FRIENDS AND FAMILY, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT OPENING IT'S, UH, WE GIVE AWAY DRINKS DURING THAT TIME. 
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AND AS PER FRIENDS AND FAMILY, THAT WE WILL BE OPEN FOR BUSINESS FRIDAY MORNING. 
          CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME PLEASE? OH YEAH. 
          I, I I'VE BEEN TALKING TO MYSELF FOR THE LAST 15 MINUTES, BUT MY NAME IS TONY SCARDINO. 
          I'M THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGER FOR DUTCH BROS IN THE DALLAS. 
          SO ARE WE, ARE WE TO ASSUME THAT A THERE'S NO FOOD THERE'S NO, UH, I WAS GOING TO SAY BISCUITS, I'M SORRY. 
          NO, UM, YOU KNOW, SCONES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO HEAT UP, IT'S JUST THE COFFEE OR, OR WHAT ELSE IS ON THE MENU? YES, IT JUST COPY. 
          AND WE DO HAVE PRE-PACKAGED, UH, UM, PRACTICE ITEMS AND DESERVES, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALL, WELL, I PROBABLY HAVE TWO TO THREE ESPRESSO MACHINES IN THERE AND THEN HOT WATER HEATER, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT, UH, HOT AND COLD DRINKS, NO FOOD PREP, SOMETIMES AT SOME COFFEE SHOPS THAT DOES TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME WHEN THEY HAVE TO POP IT IN THE OVEN AND THEN THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE OVEN AND THAT, SO THAT DOES IT ADDRESSES THE SPEED QUESTION? NO, I WORKED FOR BURGER KING FOR 25 YEARS AND, UM, I THINK THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO OPENING UP AND ADD IT TO IT'S A WHOLE NEW CONCEPT AS A WHOLE NEW ATTITUDE. 
          WE GET A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME TO WORK FOR EVENTS. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, SO WE DON'T HAVE A MENU BOARD, W  IS OUR PEOPLE, AND WE CAN HAVE UP TO FOUR RYAN BUSTER WHEN WE OPEN, WHICH IS A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE TAKING ORDERS AT THE WINDOW. 
          AND IF SOMEBODY JUST WANTS ONE DRAIN AND THEY'RE LIKE NUMBER FIVE OR SIX IN LINE OR BONTA, WE'LL TAKE THEIR ORDER. 
          WELL, UH, GET THERE, GET A CHARGE AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE PRODUCT BACK TO THEM AND THEY CAN GO ON THEIR MERRY WAY. 
          SO YOU HAVE AROUND THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE IN THE LINE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE CALL THEM LINE BUSTED. 
          WE WANT TO GET PEOPLE'S ORDERS AND OUT. 
          AND IT'S PHENOMENAL THAT THESE WITH THESE YOUNG PEOPLE DO AND THE SHOPS ARE SO ENTHUSIASTIC. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF ENERGY. 
          UM, I THINK YOU'LL BE REALLY, REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE CONCEPT BEST FIT. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR THAT, BUT IT JUST ALL THREE PACKAGE, THERE ARE TWO, THE, UH, OFFICER'S WE TIP, ADD UPWARDS OF 50, UH, DURING OUR GRAND OPENING, UH, IN ADDITION TO THOSE, UH, THAT WILL BE WORKING IN THE SHOP ON A REGULAR BASIS TO HELP MITIGATE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT WE HAVE AT THE VERY BEGINNING, AT THE VERY BEGINNING. 
          WOW. 
          JUST GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, KEN, IS THERE ANY WAY ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE QUEUING, CAN YOU GO TO THAT, THAT YOU HAVE THAT PDF ATTACHMENT? IT'S THE LAST PAGE FOR THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS WHAT FORMAT IS IT? SO THE STUDY, THE QUEUING ANALYSIS, UH, YES. 
          IT'S NOT PART OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO WE'VE ASKED THEM TO TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT YOUR TOPIC IS AS PART OF THE DENTAL WAY, PART OF THIS, PART OF THIS ODD QUEUING ANALYSIS OF THE MAP OF THE QUEUING ANALYSIS. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF YOU CAN PULL THAT UP, BLOW IT UP. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M TRYING TO GO THERE. 
          DID I HEAR FREE COFFEE DURING THE GRAND? YEAH. 
          CAN WE GET 30 SECONDS? NO. 
          MONDAY. 
          THERE'S A HUGE,  ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO BLOW UP THE BACK  
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YEP. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHEN I, WHEN I STARTED LOOKING INTO THIS, I GOT REALLY EXCITED BECAUSE I SAW THE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF STORES THAT, UH, THAT YOUR OPERATION HAS, AND, AND IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GROWING QUICKLY, UH, IN OUR DIRECTION FROM THE WEST. 
          AND I REALLY GOT EXCITED WHEN I SEE ALL THIS, THIS, THIS QUEUING ANALYSIS, BECAUSE IT'S OBVIOUS TO ME, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF, UH, YOU'RE PREPARING FOR A LOT OF CUSTOMERS, WHICH WE NEED. 
          AND WE, WE ARE, THIS IS IN A HIGH DENSITY AREA WHERE I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE A, UH, A DRIVE THROUGH, UM, PREMIER COFFEE VENUE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY. 
          SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DO REAL WELL IN THIS LOCATION, BUT WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS QUEUING ANALYSIS, UM, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I'M WONDERING ABOUT. 
          AND ONE IS IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND OF SILVER. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTH, THE SOUTH, THE SOUTHEAST CORNER. 
          AND IT RIGHT THERE, IS THAT GOING TO BE OPEN OR CLOSE? KEN, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT THIS NEW ENTRY SIGN THAT, UH, IS POINTED TO THAT LOCATION, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT OF THAT DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE. 
          IT WILL BE OPEN, SO IT WILL BE SIGNAGE THERE. 
          AND IF THINGS GET EXCITING, THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO CONE IT OFF. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I GUESS IF, IF THIS IS OPEN, I THINK A LOT OF FOLKS, I DON'T, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW FOLKS WOULD WANT TO ENTER RIGHT THERE. 
          AND HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU CUT, CUT IN THERE? UH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU CUT INTO THE TRAFFIC? SO THAT, THAT I'M JUST GONNA THROW A COUPLE THINGS OUT THERE AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN THINK ABOUT IT, AND MAYBE I'D LOVE TO HEAR SOME ANSWERS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I JUST, UM, I'M QUESTIONING THIS QUEUING ANALYSIS IF, IF THIS IS AN ENTRY. 
          SO THAT THAT'S ONE, ONE THOUGHT CONCERN I HAVE THE OTHER THOUGHT IS THIS SHIRT LOOKS LIKE OUR STARBUCKS, WHERE YOU'VE GOT BELTLINE UP HERE AND MIDWAY RIGHT HERE. 
          AND, AND IT JUST REMINDS ME OF THAT. 
          AND ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE WITH STARBUCKS, IT IS IT'S SUPER SUCCESSFUL, BUT IT'S GOT THESE PLACES WHERE YOU PARK. 
          AND SO WHEN THINGS ARE ALL QUEUED UP, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DO BACK TO BACK OUT OF THERE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE CARS QUEUED UP BEHIND YOU. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER THOUGHT. 
          AND I'M KINDA CURIOUS IF, IF WE'VE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT LIKE ANGLED PARKING RIGHT IN THERE MIGHT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO GET OUT IF WE'VE GOT THIS CUING THING, UM, GOING ON. 
          AND SO THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE, I GUESS THOSE WERE MY INITIAL CONCERNS. 
          IF THIS IS GOING TO BE AS POPULAR AS I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, AND I'D LOVE TO HEAR ANYBODY, WHO'S GOT SOME, SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT AND MAYBE SOME THOUGHTS ON WHY WE'VE GOT THE QUEUING ANALYSIS WITH NO, NO ENTRY WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN INTERVIEW THERE, WE DO ALL THE TECH ON THE LINE, UH, ERIC, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, YOU'RE ON ALSO. 
          AND YEAH, THIS, IS THERE AN ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT. 
          CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES, YES, YES. 
          SO I CAN'T SEE THE GRAPHIC, BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU REFERRING TO THE, UH, YOU SAID THAT STOP PIECE, WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN ENTRY POINT? AND IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, OUR CURING ANALYSIS, WE'RE SHOWING THAT NOT BE AN ENTRY POINT OR AN EXIT POINT. 
          UM, AND I BELIEVE WE INDICATE EITHER SIGNAGE OR STAFF PRESENCE AND THEN LOCATION. 
          AWESOME DUNAWAY. 
          UM, WHY DIDN'T WE DO THE, UH, KEUILIAN APP IF I AM KIND OF THE, THE PRODUCT MANAGER FOR THE ADDED INSIGHT AND BECAUSE B TO, UH, THE FIRST ITEM, UM, WE ARE SHOWING AND, UH, AND MOTIVATING THEIR, UH, DRIVEWAY THERE BECAUSE WE'RE DEDICATING PROPOSED EIGHT IN INTERNAL FIRE THERE. 
          SO, UH, IN ORDER FOR THAT TO, WE HAVE A THROUGH ROUTE THROUGH THE SITE, UM, WE HAD TO WORK, UH, WITH  PACKAGE TO PROVIDE OUT OF THE DRIVE RADIUS TO, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, UH, FIRE TRUCK GETTING THROUGH THERE. 
          SO THAT THAT'S REALLY, UM, THE, THE REASON THAT OPENING, UH, IS THERE, UM, AT LEAST BY FUNCTIONALITY, UM, ERIC, I'LL DEFER TO YOU ON, ON ITEM NUMBER TWO 
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ON, ON THE PARKING. 
          UH, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S PARKING FOR STAFF AND WHATNOT, BUT, UM, I'LL, I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, WE DID NOT, UM, CONSIDER ANAL PARKING IN DEMON, UM, TO BE A BENEFIT. 
          AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S PRIMARILY THE DRIVER. 
          UM, SO IN, AS I STATED EARLY ON THE MINUTE PLAN NOW, AND SO THAT IS THAT ACCESS POINT IS THEN IS AS AUSTIN STATED, THAT'S NOT AN INJURY, UM, TO THE DRIVER WHO WAS SYLLABLE, AND THEN WE'LL BE SIGNING STAIRS TO BE ABLE TO TRAVERSE BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THERE. 
          LET ME SAY THIS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A 405 RESTAURANT LIKE THIS COFFEE SHOP, NONE OF THIS, THE CHURCHILL HAVE ANY DIFFICULTY IN QUEUING ON DRIVING. 
          I THINK THE OTHER SIDE ARE COMPATIBLE, RIGHT? ERIC, I'M SORRY. 
          I COULDN'T HEAR. 
          I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 400, SOME THIS KIND OF A COFFEE SHOP. 
          SO SUPPOSEDLY YOU ALREADY GOT ALL THE PLANS, YOU KNOW, FOUND DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. 
          SO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE VERY TECHNICAL, CHEWING MASSEUR. 
          SO, UH, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST PLACE YOU BUILD. 
          SO I'M JUST WONDERING, DID YOU EVER FIND ANY, A QUEUING PROBLEM FOR THE CAR? CAN YOU HEAR ME? WOW. 
          I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS THAT AS, AS YOU'RE SPEAKING AND IT OUT OF NECESSITY, IT'S VERY LOUD. 
          AND SO WE'RE GETTING THAT. 
          WE'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. 
          DISCERN THE WORDS A LITTLE BIT. 
          MY QUESTION IS YOU HAVE SO MANY THIS LOCATION, AND THEN I DON'T BELIEVE YOU ALWAYS NEED TO FIND THE DIFFERENT SHOWS. 
          MASSIVE IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE THIS IN DIFFERENT LOCATION ALREADY. 
          DID YOU EVER FIND ANY PROPERTY ON THE LOCATION, UH, PROBLEMS WITH, UH, WITH, UH, WITH THE CAR, THE CONCERN THAT COUNCILMAN WILLISON HAS ABOUT CARS USING THE EMERGENCY ONLY ACCESS THAT YOU HAVE BLOCKED OFF SHOWING US NO ENTRY. 
          I THINK MAYOR CHOW WAS ASKING IF YOU HAVE OTHER EXAMPLES AND OTHER LOCATIONS OF HAVING A PROBLEM WITH THAT, IS IT A TIME TESTED PLAN? THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM GOTCHA. 
          UM, AND I HONESTLY, I'D LOVE TO GO BACK AND SPEAK WITH THE, UH, THOSE INTERNALLY THAT HAVE WORKED ON OTHER PROJECTS. 
          UM, WE HAVE, SO WE HAVE A TEAM INTERNAL TEAM. 
          THEY WORK ON ESTABLISHING OUR STACKING PLAN FOR OUR RAN OPENINGS. 
          AND SO WE DO HAVE, UH, A LOT OF, WE DO HAVE INFORMATION THAT'S, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO GO REFER BACK TO THEM AND, AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION LATER. 
          ONCE I FIND OUT WHAT THE ISSUE, WHAT, UH, WHAT THE EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN UNFORTUNATE. 
          I WAS LIKE, AGAIN, I'M FAIRLY NEW, SO I DON'T HAVE YOU HAVE AN ANSWER. 
          I WOULD SUGGEST LET US STAFF, KEN, LESS STAFF TO WORK ON THIS, UH, CHILDREN PLAN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, WELL, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, SO, UH, MAYOR REAL QUICK. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING HERE IS THEY'RE, THEY'RE GIVING PLAN FOR THIS SITE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THIS PARCEL WHERE THAT ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS THERE. 
          BUT THEY'RE SAYING TO US IS THAT THIS IS THERE BECAUSE WE REQUIRE APPROPRIATE FLOW FOR PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES, PARTICULARLY FIRE VEHICLES, TO BE ABLE TO COME IN ON THE SITE. 
          IF THIS WAS NOT THERE AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, OUR FIRE TRUCKS COULDN'T GET OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT IS THERE FOR THE PURPOSE OF BEING ABLE TO, IF A PRIOR TRUCK COMES IN ONE WAY, IT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT RIGHT NOW. 
          IF YOU GO TO THE, UH, NOT THE CHICK-FIL-A, YOU GO TO THE CHICK-FIL-A ON MANFORD AND YOU TRY, THERE ARE SEVERAL ENTRANCES TO THAT SITE. 
          IF YOU TRY TO COME INTO CUT IN LINE AT THE, THE, UH, I GUESS IT'S THE NORTHEAST CORNER, OR EXCUSE ME, THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THAT SITE THEY'VE PUT UP CONDOMS. SO YOU CAN'T CUT IN LINE FOR EVERYBODY. 
          SO THEY FORCE 
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EVERYBODY TO GO FOLLOW THE ROUTE OF THE FLOW OF THE REST OF THE TRAFFIC. 
          IF YOU GO TO EAT AND ALBERT, WHICH IT ALSO HAS A VERY POPULAR, UH, IN, UH, IN DRIVE THROUGH, UH, UH, SYNDICATE OR SKI, UH, WHETHER IT'S THE ONE OVER HERE, UH, IN DALLAS, JUST ACROSS THE STREET FROM US, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO FOR EXAMPLE, TO ONE ANALOGY. 
          OR IF YOU GO TO ONE IN THE COLONY, THEY HAVE EXACTLY THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS KIND OF THING RIGHT HERE, WHERE YOU'VE GOT AN ENTRANCE HERE. 
          WHAT THEY DO IS THEY BLOCK THAT OFF WITH CONES AND THEY HAVE STAFF THERE AND THEY FORCE ALL THE TRAFFIC TO GO THE SAME WAY. 
          SO YOU CAN'T COME IN HERE TO GET IN LINE, TO EAT FOOD. 
          YOU HAVE TO GO AROUND THIS, THIS WAY TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS, UH, THE, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE, UM, UH, ORDERING SCHEME. 
          AND SO, BECAUSE WE REQUIRE THAT FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS ISN'T SOMETHING WHERE PEOPLE ARE CUTTING LINE, THEY WILL HAVE TO PUT PEOPLE AND, OR THINGS THAT KEEP CARS FROM ENTERING AND EXITING HERE. 
          AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO BE USED IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THIS QE PLAN, WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS THERE'S NOTHING ON MARSH THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DRAG EVERYBODY TO THE EAST SIDE, IF THE LINES GET LONG ENOUGH, AND EVERYTHING'S GOING TO RUN THROUGH HERE AND THEN OUT. 
          SO THEY HAVE VARIOUS WAYS TO GET OUT. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. 
          AND THAT WAS BETTER. 
          I MEAN, I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A DUTCH BROS, BUT IN OTHER CHICK-FIL-A'S IN, IN AND OUT BURGERS, THAT IS A COMMON COMMON THING. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IN THE NO ENTRY PART IN THAT IS NOT IN THE SITE PLAN MATERIALISM. 
          I MEAN, I JUST SAW THAT THE ONLY PLACE I SAW THAT WAS IN THE QUEUING ANALYSIS, NOT THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, WE TYPICALLY WOULD NOT SHOW THAT SIGNAGE AT THIS LEVEL OF SITE PLANNING. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS JUST INCLUDED IN THE KEYWORD ANALYSIS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          THIS ENTRY WOULD BE, UH, ONE, IF I AM, UH, UNFORTUNATELY I APOLOGIZE, BUT I'M LISTENING THROUGH SOME STATIC, BUT, UH, THAT SIGN, THAT'S LIKE TEMPORARY SIGNAGE THAT WE WOULD HAVE HER JUST DURING THE, UH, DURING OUR GRAND OPENING PERIOD. 
          UH, AND YOU KNOW, IT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF WE'VE HAD, SINCE YOU PICK UP CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING, UH, THE, WITH THE, UH, FIRE LANE, UH, I MEAN, I JUST I'D HAVE TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT AND HOW WE'VE HANDLED IT IN THE PAST. 
          UH, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF WHY WE HAVE THE, THAT WE PROVIDE WITHIN THE DRIVE-THROUGH TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT AS BEST WE CAN. 
          UH, BECAUSE DEPENDING ON THE, THIS IS, THIS LAYOUT IS NOT EXACTLY TYPICAL, BUT ALL THE CUSTOM THAT HOW THE TRASH ENCLOSURE IS, UH, LAID OUT. 
          BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S A VERY CLOSE TO WHAT I WOULD SAY TENABLE, UH, IS RELATIVE TO WHERE THE ENTRY, WHERE THE, I DRIVE THE REENTRY WARNINGS AND ALL THAT, BUT HAVE THE, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT BY, I'LL BE PERPENDICULAR TO THE ENTRY POINT INTO THE DRIVE-THROUGH. 
          UM, BUT, UH, BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN, BUT I'VE DONE KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD ISSUES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, UH, IN THE PAST THERE, BUT AGAIN, IF WE WERE TO HAVE ISSUES WITH IT, UM, WE, WE DO, WE BRING ON THE STAFF NEEDED TO HELP MITIGATE THAT AS BEST WE CAN IS REALLY KEY FOR US, WHICH IS WHY IT'S KEY FOR US TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR OPERATION RUNS SMOOTHLY. 
          AND THEN WE MEET THAT 45 SECOND TIMEFRAME TO GET CARS IN AND OUT BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AND DO THAT THEN UNDER NORMAL OPERATIONS, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN ISSUE. 
          THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN. 
          ANY MORE QUESTION? WELL, I MEAN, MARLIN ASKS A QUESTION, MAN, I'VE TURNED THE BACK END FROM PARKING PARKING SPOT. 
          I MEAN, IS IT, IS, IT IS A MITIGATION FOR THAT, THE SPEED THROUGH WHICH THE QUEUE LINES AT US, AND IT CONTEMPLATES SOMEONE LETTING SOMEONE BACKING OUT OF THAT SPOT, YOU KNOW, TO, TO EXIT. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT THE TIME FOR THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT WITHIN THE STARBUCKS, YOU KNOW, THE LINE AND IT'S NOT MOVING THAT FAST AND YOU'RE STUCK AND YOU CAN'T GET OUT. 
          SO, I MEAN, IS, ARE WE THINKING ABOUT THAT? THAT'S WHAT YOUR QUESTION. 
          YES. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC CONTROL, WHETHER IT BE THIRD PARTY OR ONE OF OUR GROW EAST IS, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE HANDLING THE RUNNERS AND IN THE MID 
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AND LONG BLOG, IF WE NEEDED TO ASSIGN, UH, UH, PERSONNEL TO HELP MANAGE THAT AND DO TRAFFIC CONTROL, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO. 
          I THINK THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THIS IN A STARBUCKS, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THE STARBUCKS, YOU CAN GO INTO A STARBUCKS TRUE. 
          IN ORDER TO BE HERE, YOU CAN WALK UP, BUT THE REALLY THEY'RE TRYING TO PUSH YOU TO DRIVE THROUGH, RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING LIKE A STARBUCKS WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIT AND BE ON THEIR WIFI AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. 
          I THINK THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO PUSH IT, PUSH YOUR, YOU AND YOUR CAR THROUGH THIS, THIS LINE AND GET YOU OUT OF THERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND THAT'S FINE. 
          I MEAN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SET THE EXPECTATION SET AND, AND UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S FINE. 
          CAN YOU SPEAK PERHAPS A LITTLE BIT TO THE, MY CONCERN ABOUT A SIMILAR SITUATION THAT WE HAVE ON THE BELTLINE, WHERE WE HAD A LINE COMING OUT ONTO THE ROAD AND SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC ON 4:00 AM LIMITS ON THAT LAYLA FOR, UH, UH, FOR A LOCATION ON MELTWATER, HOW WOULD THIS BE? HOW WOULD THIS BE THE SAME OR DIFFERENT IF THERE WERE SOME QUEUING THAT WAS TAKING PLACE ON MARCH? IT IS, IS IT THE INTENTION OF THE RUNNERS TO KEEP THAT NOT A GRAND OPENING. 
          THIS IS FIVE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN WE HAVE BACKUP ON MARSH OR FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. 
          UH, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN THAT LOCATION. 
          SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE TO SPEAK TO THAT. 
          I THINK WE OVERCOME, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD. 
          I WAS JUST GOING TO ADDRESS THAT, THAT POINT, THAT SORT OF THE PROCESS OF, UH, GENERATING  WORKING THROUGH, UH, STAFF WERE IN, WE, WE ULTIMATELY ENDED UP WITH PROVIDING AND THAT STARTED WITH A TRIP GENERATION, UM, CABLE IN AND WHERE WE, WHERE WE TEND TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY CHAIRS, UH, IN A PEAK EVENT IS THIS DRIVE THROUGH ONLY POPPIES IN GOING TO GENERATE, AND BASED ON THOSE CONCLUSIONS FROM THAT, THAT THE CITY'S ENGINEER, UM, AGREED WITH AND SIGNED OFF ON THAT, THEY'RE REALLY, THERE WOULD BE  OPERATIONALLY. 
          THERE'S A COMMITMENT FROM, FROM THOSE ROWS TO, UH, AVOID CHEWING TRAFFIC ON THE MARGIN ON THE SPRING VALLEY, IF THEY'RE IN THEIR BEST INTEREST TO DO THAT. 
          UM, BUT ALSO FROM THE DISTRIBUTED ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE, UM, THE TRUTH IS GENERATED, DID NOT MEET THE CITY'S THRESHOLD TO PROVIDE A DECELERATION LATER OR SOMETHING JUST TO KIND OF ALLOW FOR THAT SHOOTING BACK ONTO THE STREET. 
          AND YOU, SO GUILLERMO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THERE, THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE TYPES OF EXPERIENCES. 
          UM, ONE IS, YOU KNOW, VALET REQUIRES PEOPLE GET IN AND OUT OF CARS. 
          THERE'S A LOT MORE TIME INVOLVED WITH THAT. 
          I DON'T AS BEST I UNDERSTAND THIS. 
          I DON'T SEE THAT KIND OF A SITUATION OCCURRING, UH, WHERE PEOPLE ARE GETTING IN THAT OF THEIR CARS TO GET THE COFFEE. 
          THE IDEA IS NOT TO GET OUT OF YOUR IT'S TO GET THROUGH THEIR QUEUE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          IN FACT, IF YOU GET IT, YOU MEAN, SO AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, THE SECOND THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS QE, UH, MODEL OR A DIAGRAM THERE, THEY'RE ALREADY TRYING TO AVOID MARSH. 
          RIGHT? RIGHT. 
          SO THEY'RE PUTTING THAT EVERY THIRD POINT AND ALL THE LONGEST PART OF THE LINE THAT'S COMING OUT OF THEIR DRIVE, THEIR ON-SITE DRIVE ONTO GOING AND GOING AWAY FROM MARCH. 
          AND SO IT MAY REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION FOR THEIR CUSTOMERS, BUT, BUT, BUT TH THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S NOT A REASONABLE FOR ANYTHING. 
          AND IN FACT, IF I'M A CUSTOMER HERE AND I'M COMING FROM THE NORTH, I'M GOING TO SKIP THAT FIRST. 
          I CAN'T TURN THERE. 
          THERE'S NOT EVEN A MEDIAN CUT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I'M GOING TO GO DOWN TO THAT SECOND ENTRY AND I'LL TO START AT THE BACK OF THE LINE, RIGHT. 
          AND IF I'M COMING FROM THE SOUTH, I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE BACK OF THE LINE, KNOWING WHAT, AS A CUSTOMER THAT GOES THERE FREQUENTLY, KNOWING WHERE THE LINE IS NOT GOING TO TRY TO GET THERE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          SO I'M GOING TO ENTER IN THAT SOUTH, UH, THAT, THAT SOUTH ROAD AS WELL, IF 
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I, IF I'M COMING UP AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, UM, IT'S FIVE IN THE MORNING AND I'M ONE OF THE FIRST ONES THERE, MAYBE I CAN SKIP UP TO THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE AND THEN GO RIGHT INTO THAT. 
          BUT, BUT THEN I ALREADY KNOW THAT THERE'S, I'M DOING THAT BECAUSE THERE'S NO LINE THERE AS A CUSTOMER. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, SO, UM, DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS AND THE WISH THEY CAN DO THIS? WELL AT THE TIME, PERFECT IDEA SCENARIO, BECAUSE IF IT HAPPENED LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, THEY WALK THE MALL COMPETITORS, COMPETITION COMPANY, AND IN THIS JUST TOTAL PERFECT IDEA SITUATION. 
          SO IF THEY WERE TO DO THIS WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO BE BIT ON THERE. 
          I THINK THE, THE MAIN POINT IS IF YOU COULD TAKE AWAY FROM ANY OF OUR ANALYSIS, THE ONLY TIME WE SEE THIS AS A POTENTIAL NEED, WHERE THEY REALLY ARE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A REALLY DELIBERATE MITIGATION PLAN IS THE PEAK PERIOD OF GRAND OPENING. 
          SO THINK ABOUT IT AS BLACK FRIDAY PLANNING FOR BLACK FRIDAY, UNDER EVERY CONDITION EVERY DAY IN THE RETAIL WORLD IS NOT LIKE FRIDAY. 
          IT'S REALLY A ONE DAY, A YEAR. 
          EVERY OTHER TIME, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE DEMAND TO CREATE THIS TYPE OF SITUATION TO BACK UP TRAFFIC. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THE POINT IS IF ANYBODY SEE THE 20, 30 CARS, EVERYBODY. 
          SO THIS IS JUST IDEA. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ALL THE TIME, SO I DON'T WORRY UP ON THIS. 
          I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO GREAT. 
          I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THIS IS REALISTIC. 
          ALL THAT THEY DO. 
          I THINK, I THINK THEY WILL ALL DENSITY THAT WE HAVE NOW, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT MORE, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO GREAT. 
          BUT, BUT AGAIN, UM, TO ME, THIS IS AS SIMPLE AS LOOKING AT AND STARBUCKS AND, UH, BELTLINE AND MIDWAY AND, UM, AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO HELP THIS THING WORK BETTER IN THE FUTURE. 
          AND, AND I THINK THIS QUEUING AND THE PARKING IS A REAL ISSUE, UM, AND CAN CREATE A MESS. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, I'VE MENTIONED THE TWO ITEMS. I THINK WE, WE SHOULD SURE. 
          WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T REALLY TOUCHED ON THE ANGLED PARKING ISSUE. 
          I THINK THAT'S A CONSIDERATION. 
          THE ONE CHALLENGE YOU'VE COME ACROSS WHEN YOU DO ANGLE PARKING, IS IT LIMITS YOUR OPTIONS FOR GETTING OUT OF THE PARKING LOT. 
          IF YOU'RE DOING ANGLED PARKING AND IT'S ANGLE ALL THE ANGLES TO THE NORTH, THEN YOUR ONLY WAY TO GET OUT, UNLESS YOU DO A MASSIVE THREE POINT TURN IS TO GO ONE WAY OUT. 
          THAT'S TRUE. 
          IF YOU DO THE HEAD IN PARKING, YOU CAN GO OUT EITHER WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I WAS GONNA THAT'S. 
          MY QUESTION WAS WHY WOULD AN ANGLED PARKING BE BETTER? I KNOW THAT I FREQUENT STARBUCKS THERE ON MIDWAY. 
          AND EVEN THOUGH IT FEELS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A DISASTER, CAUSE SOMEONE COULD BE STUCK THERE AND DEFINITELY EVERYBODY GETS OUT, EVERYBODY BACKS OUT. 
          SO THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS THAT IT WORKS OUT AND THIS IS NOT EVEN A WALK IN, I MEAN, THIS ISN'T, THIS, ISN'T NOT EVEN A GO SIT DOWN INSIDE. 
          SO I THINK THAT SOLVES IT. 
          AND I JUST DON'T KNOW WHY YOU NEED 43 PARKING PLACES, EMPLOYEES ON THE SPEED THEY HAVE EMPLOYEES HAS TO PLACE PAUL. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S A QUESTION WE'VE HAD THROUGHOUT GENERALLY AS PLANNERS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO LIMIT PARKING BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING AWAY GREEN SPACE AND REPLACING WITH PAVING. 
          BUT I THINK THE MAYOR HITS IT EXACTLY CORRECT THERE IN THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE AGGRESSIVE STAFFING THAT THEY PROPOSE, THEY DO NEED ADDITIONAL ARTS TEACHER WITH THEIR EMPLOYEE PARKING. 
          THEY SAID, DO YOUR WORK HERE PART OF OUR TRAFFIC CONTROL, WE HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT, THAT REQUIRES A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SPACES. 
          YES, IT'S 13, THEY'RE OVER PARKED BY 30 SPACES. 
          AND NOW WE'RE ALSO ALSO ADD THAT, UH, FOR THE, THE, UH, MOBSTERS THAT, EXCUSE ME, THAT ARE, UH, COMING IN FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO ASSIST WITH OUR GRAND OPENING. 
          UH, WE TYPICALLY WOULD BECAUSE OF THE, THE RISK, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING ISSUE THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, WE OFTENTIMES WOULD JUST BUST THEM. 
          AND USUALLY THEY'RE ALL GOING TO BE IN THE SAME HOTEL SOMEWHERE TO BUY. 
          AND SO THEY WILL EITHER READ, UH, VANS OR JUST EVERYBODY BUS STAND AS OPPOSED TO PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR INDIVIDUALLY TOO. 
          SO THAT, SO THAT, THAT X-RAY FLIPS OVER PERSONNEL, UH, IMPOSING, 
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UH, OKAY. 
          UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS ITEM IS LISTED THE PUBLIC, HEARING ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          PLEASE DO. 
          SO DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ON THE PHONE?  IN MOTION, A MOTION TO SECOND TO APPROVE THIS ITEM, PLEASE SAY, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED. 
          THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. 
          [15.  Present, Discuss, and Consider Action on a Resolution Approving Brokers, Dealers, and Financial Institutions to Conduct Investment Transactions for Fiscal Year 2020-2021.]
I 15 PRESENT, DISCUSS AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON RESOLUTION, IMPROVING BROKERS, DEALERS, FINANCIAL FUTURES TO CONDUCT INVESTMENT TRANSACTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2022. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF STEVEN LITTMAN SHOW FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO SEE EVENING AS A RESOLUTION, UH, GROOMING BROKERS, DEALERS, AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONDUCTING INVESTMENT TRANSACTIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2021, THIS ITEMS BEFORE YOU. 
          SO THE TOWN PREVIOUSLY CONTRACTED WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES, ASSET MANAGEMENT FOR INVESTMENT SERVICES. 
          UH, PART OF THAT, UM, PART OF THOSE SERVICES WAS HILLTOP WOULD, UH, PROPOSE INVESTMENT TRANSACTIONS, UH, TO THE CHINESE INVESTMENT OFFICERS, WHICH ARE MY CELL PHONE AND TURNER, OUR CONTROLLER AND THOSE INVESTMENT TRANSACTIONS WOULD COME FROM A LIST OF BROKERS, DEALERS, AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR VETTING AND DOING THEIR DUE DILIGENCE DUE DILIGENCE ON, UM, AND ULTIMATELY, UM, ON, UH, APRIL 1ST WE TERMINATED THAT CONTRACT WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES ASSET MANAGEMENT TO BRING THOSE SERVICES IN-HOUSE, UH, THE COST OF THAT CONTRACT WAS ABOUT $70,000 ANNUALLY. 
          UM, UH, AND, UH, JUST, UH, THE OVERALL VALUE, UH, THE PAYROLL GREEN TO THE TOWN. 
          UH, IT WAS HARD FOR ME TO JUSTIFY THAT, THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE STAFF THAT CAN DO THIS IN-HOUSE OR EXISTING STAFF. 
          SO THE LIST OF BROKERS AND DEALERS AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS IN THE LIST THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, THOSE WERE VENTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR EXISTING, UH, INVESTMENT POLICY. 
          UH, THAT INCLUDES, UH, THEN FILLING OUT A BROKER DEALER QUESTIONNAIRE. 
          UH, THEY PROVIDE THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, RESUMES OF THE BROKERS THAT WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH. 
          UM, AND, UH, UH, AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, THE REPORTING, UH, WITH HILLTOP THAT'S A MANAGEMENT WOULD, THAT WOULD CHANGE AND THEN THE INVESTMENT WORK, WHAT WOULD COME FROM INSURANCE STATUS AS WELL WITH THAT, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION. 
          SO BASICALLY, UH, STEVEN, YOU JUST CUT OFF A VIDEO PERSON, RIGHT? YES. 
          SO YOU CAN'T DO IT WHILE YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH SOMEBODY TO TELL AND OTHER BROKER DEALER TO DO. 
          WE CAN DO IT. 
          I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE CAN ALSO IN A SMALL COMPANY, SO I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. 
          SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD A SAVINGS JUST TO KIND OF SEE WHAT YOU MIGHT SHARE YESTERDAY. 
          WE WENT THROUGH THIS AND THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, TWO THINGS, ONE THAT THIS IS NORMAL KIND OF STAFF TO DO IT AND KIND OF, AND THEN SECONDLY, JUST THE BACKGROUNDS THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT YOU BRING TO THIS IS PRETTY IMPRESSIVE, RIGHT? SO, UM, AND I'VE TRIED TO LOOK AT ALL OF OUR COMPETITOR CITIES AND SEE, SEE HOW, HOW THEY DO IT. 
          THE ONLY ONE THAT I CAN FIND OTHER THAN ADDISON THAT WAS DOING THAT WAS USING AN INVESTMENT ADVISOR, WAS FRISCO, UH, WHO ALSO USES HILLTOP. 
          UM, SOME OF THEM I CAN NOT FIND, BUT I CAN'T. 
          I DID FIND FLOWER MOUNTAIN CARROLLTON, RICHARDSON, ALLEN, UH, PLANO, UH, ALL USE INTERIM STATS IN THEIR, UH, INVESTMENT, UH, PROGRAM. 
          SO, UM, AND TH THE TWO PERSONS THAT ARE DEFINED IN OUR INVESTMENT POLICY THAT, UH, ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE TRANSACTIONS ARE ONE ME AS THE CFO IS THE PRIMARY INVESTMENT ADVISOR. 
          UH, AMANDA TURNER IS OUR CONTROLLER. 
          SHE'S THE SECONDARY INVESTMENT OFFICER, SORRY, NOT ADVISOR. 
          UM, SO BOTH OF US ARE CPAS, UH, GOOGLE CERTIFIED GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS, UH, BOTH MEMBERS OF GFA, WHICH HAS GOT A FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, UH, THE TECH, THE UNITED STATES AND THE TEXAS VERSION ALSO BE GOVERNMENT TREASURERS ORGANIZATION IN TEXAS. 
          SO WE ARE ALSO, UH, DO OUR PUBLIC FUNDS INVESTMENT ACT TRAINING, UH, EACH YEAR. 
          SO WE, UH, HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. 
          I'VE BEEN DOING INTERNAL INVESTMENT, UH, FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          AND THEN AMANDA HAS BEEN AN INVESTMENT OFFICER HERE FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS. 
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ONE OF THE THINGS I, I WOULD ADD, UM, THAT WE LEARNED DURING OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING IS WHAT STEVEN JUST SAID IS HIS EXPERIENCE, UM, WHICH MADE THIS A REALLY EASY THOUGHT FOR ME, BUT ALSO OUR, OUR LATEST RESULTS. 
          UM, I JUST KNOW FROM LISTENING TO STEVE AND WE CAN DO A MUCH BETTER IF NOBODY'S GOT ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL MOVE TO APPROVAL. 
          SORRY. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          I HAVE EMOTION. 
          I HAVE A MOTION FOR MALA WILSON AND A SECOND TIME, OR IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY, AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OPPOSED. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE ARE JOINED NOW.
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