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          YES. 
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ALL RIGHT. 
          [1. Call Meeting to Order]
WE WON'T CALL TO ORDER THE MARCH MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          WE'LL START WITH ALLEGIANCE. 
          IF YOU'LL JOIN ME WHEN NATION NUMBER GONE, IT'S ALWAYS A LITTLE INTERESTING WHEN YOU HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE DOING THAT. 
          UM, 
          [1.  Discuss and take action regarding the selection of a Chair for the Planning and Zoning Commission.]
OUR FIRST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO SELECT A CHAIR FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ON ALL OPEN THE FOREFRONT FOR CHAIRS. 
          DO YOU WANT ME TO RUN THE, UH, I'M CERTAINLY ABLE TO RUN THE SELECTION OF A CHAIR PROCESSES PREFERABLE. 
          UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE SINCE THERE'S NOT A CHAIR. 
          UM, I W THE OPEN THE FLOOR TO NOMINATIONS FOR THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          WELL, THIS IS CHRIS. 
          UH, I THINK THE TOWNS ARE VERY LUCKY TO HAVE, UH, INDIVIDUALS LIKE EILEEN RESNICK AND TOM SAUER SERVING ON OUR PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          THEY'RE BOTH GREAT FOLKS. 
          THEY BOTH HAVE BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN THE TOWN AT A CERTAIN TOWN. 
          THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          UH, I THINK EILEEN HAS SERVED US VERY WELL AS VICE-CHAIR, AND I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE HER FOR CHAIR. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS JUST SELECT TO THE RATE? TODD, HE'S ALWAYS BEEN VERY, UH, THAT WE DO COME FORWARD WITH A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS AND PUT OUT GOOD THINGS ON EACH PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUE THAT WE HAVE. 
          UH, SO I THINK HE MAKE A GREAT CHAIR. 
          SO I HAVE EILEEN RESNICK. 
          I HAVE TOM SOURS. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS SEEING NONE? I WILL CALL FOR A INDICATION OF PREFERENCE BY THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY WERE NOMINATED. 
          UH, SINCE EILEEN RESNICK WAS NOMINATED AT FIRST, UH, ALL IN FAVOR OF, I HIGHLY RESONANT BECOMING THE SHERIFF OF PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSIONER, PLEASE INDICATE STATING BY RAISING YOUR HAND, THANK YOU. 
          AND ALL IN FAVOR OF TOM SOURS, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          IT APPEARS FROM MY TABULATION THAT EILEEN RESNICK CARRIES THE DAY. 
          UH, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL MOTION TO NAME HER, THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND FOR THE COMMISSION TO THEN HAVE A SUBSEQUENT VOTE ON THAT MOTION. 
          BUT AGAIN, WE'D LIKE TO NOMINATE TOM HIS CO-CHAIR THAT HE WOULD DO AN EXCELLENT JOB IN SUPPORTING YOU. 
          WELL, WE'LL GET TO THAT. 
          THE VICE CHAPTER IN A MOMENT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO NOMINATE. 
          EILEEN RESNICK IS CHAIR OF THE EDISON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE. 
          RIGHT? ANY OPPOSED, PLEASE STATE YOUR LAST NAME. 
          MOTION CARRIES REGULATIONS IN THIS RESUME. 
          AND WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE OVER FOR BUSTER OR DO YOU WANT TO DO THAT AS WELL? THAT IS TOTALLY UP TO YOU. 
          MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. 
          UM, WELL, YOU'RE ON A ROLL. 
          GO FOR IT. 
          I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO FOUR NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR. 
          AGAIN, I NOMINATE TOM TO BE VICE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING. 
          THEY COULD DO A GREAT JOB SUPPORTING LANE, AND I'M LIKE NOMINATE JOHN MELANCHOLY. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS SEEING NONE? I WILL AGAIN, CALL FOR AN INDICATION OF PREFERENCE BASED UPON THE ORDER IN WHICH THE NOMINATIONS WERE RECEIVED, UH, WITH THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TOM SOURS TO SERVE AS VICE CHAIR FOR PLANNING, ZONING COMMISSION, AND PLEASE INDICATE BY RAISING YOUR HAND, THOSE WHO WISH TO VOTE FOR MR. MALIKI, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          IT APPEARS IN MY EYES THAT MR. SAUERS HAS THE WINNER OF THAT VOTE. 
          UH, ONCE AGAIN, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE A MOTION INTO THE RECORD TO APPOINT MR. SAUERS, AS VICE-CHAIRMAN I MADE THE TOM 
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SOURS, THE APPOINTED AS VICE CHAIRMAN OF VITAMINS. 
          ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          ANY OPPOSED, PLEASE STATE YOUR LAST NAME. 
          MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          [2.  Discuss and take action regarding the approval of the minutes of the December 15, 2020 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.]
THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR, FOR THE DECEMBER 15TH, 20, 20 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? IF NOT, THEY STAND AFRAID THIS RED OR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS THIS EVENING IS CLEAR. 
          YOU NEED A MOTION, YOU NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND ON DOMINANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, FRAZIER PAM. 
          [3.  PUBLIC HEARING Case 1821-Z/Addison Grove, Block A. Public hearing, discussion, and take action on a recommendation regarding a development plan for the development of Block A of the Addison Grove Addition, including a site plan, landscape plan, building elevations and floor plans for 16 townhomes and 17 live/work units, in an existing Planned Development District (PD), through Ordinance O16-003, located on approximately 1.034 acres addressed as 4120-4126 Belt Line Road, 14991-15015 Oak Street, and 4129-4147 Runyon Road.]
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          COULD YOU CALL THE RESULTS? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          IT WAS UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUS APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          PUBLIC HEARING CASE 1821 Z ADDISON BRIGHT BLOCK, A PUBLIC HEARING A DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON THE RECOMMENDATION REGARDING A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF BLOCK BAY, THE ADDISON GROVE ADDITION, INCLUDING A SITE PLAN LANDSCAPE PLAN, BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND FLOOR PLANS FOR 16 COUNCILS AND 17 LIVE WORK UNITS AND EXISTING PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, WHERE ORDINANCE 16 DASH ONE, TWO AND THREE, APPROXIMATELY 1.034. 
          I CAN RECEIVE THREATS STATUS 21 SITES, 41 2341 26, BELTLINE ROAD, 1400 99,991 TO 15,015 AND 41 29 TO 41 TO 47 RUNYON ROAD. 
          CAN WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT PLEASE? GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. 
          MY NAME IS KEN SCHMIDT. 
          I'M THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THE TOWN OF ADDISON. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED IN THE ADDISON GROVE EDITION 17.4 ACRE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT LOCATED AT THE FORMER SAM'S CLUB SITE ABOUT THE BELTLINE ROAD AND 350 FEET WEST OF MIDWAY ROAD. 
          THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL IN ACCORDANCE WITH PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE 16 ZERO THREE, AND HAS SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN LANDSCAPE PLANS, THE SOD PLANS AND FLOOR PLANS FOR BLOCK A WHICH COMPRISES 17 LIVE WORK UNITS AND 16 TOWNHOME DWELLING UNITS. 
          I CONSISTENT WITH THE TOWN'S ZONING ORDINANCE AND PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 16 ZERO ZERO THREE DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL IS REQUIRED PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT CONSTRUCTION ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN MUST COMPLY WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ESTABLISHED BY PD 16, ZERO ZERO THREE, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER APPLICABLE TOWN STANDARDS WITH THIS APPLICATION, THE APPLICANT WISHES TO CONFIRM COMPLIANCE WITH TALENT REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO PROCEED WITH CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT. 
          BEFORE WE, UH, BEGIN, UM, WITH, UH, A REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, I'D LIKE TO GIVE A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TIMELINE FOR THIS SITE. 
          UH, SO THIS SITE IN QUESTION, UH, WAS PART OF WHAT IS KNOWN AS THE SAM'S CLUBS, SPECIAL AREAS OF STUDY THAT STUDY WAS COMMENCED IN, UH, 2014 AND IT CULMINATED IN MARCH, 2015, UH, WITH POLICY DIRECTION RELATED TO THE SAM'S CLUB TRACK ONLY, WHICH IS THE SITE OF ADDISON GROVE, UH, FOLLOWING, UH, THAT STUDY A DEVELOPMENT TEAM BROUGHT FORWARD A REZONING REQUEST THAT RESULTED IN A PD REZONING, UH, OF THE SAM'S CLUB SITE, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY KNOWN AS ADDISON IN MAY OF 2016, UH, THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT TEAM ASSOCIATED WITH THE TOWNHOMES AND LIVE WORKING IT'S, UH, IN TOWN HOMES, UM, BROUGHT FORWARD A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC REALM ELEMENTS OF ADDISON GROVE. 
          SO THE STREETS STREETSCAPE OPEN SPACES, UM, ALLEYS AND SITE LANDSCAPE, UH, AS WELL AS BLOCK B, WHICH COMPRISES 57 COUNT HOMES AND IS AT 
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THE SOUTHWESTERN QUADRANT OF THE, UH, ADDISON GROVE DEVELOPMENT IN DECEMBER OF 2017, UH, THE, UH, MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT TEAM GRAY STAR BROUGHT FORWARD A DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL REQUEST FOR THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT OF ANNA FAN GROVE. 
          AND THAT MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT ALSO INCLUDED GROUND FLOOR RETAIL SPACE, UH, FRONTING ON BELTLINE THE BLOCK A, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF CONSIDERATION TONIGHT IS, UH, SITUATED, UH, IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST OF THE MULTIFAMILY COMPONENT AND IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF BLOCK B, WHICH IS THE TOWNHOME COMPONENT OF THE PROJECT THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. 
          SO AS YOU CAN SEE WITH THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UH, THIS BLOCK CONSISTS OF 17 LIVE WORK UNITS AND 16 TOWNHOUSE I'VE LIVE WORK UNITS, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THIS SLIDE, UH, OUTLINED IN PURPLE, UH, ARE COMPRISED OF, UH, UNITS THAT HAVE COMMERCIAL USES PERMITTED ON THE GROUND FLOOR. 
          AND THEN RESIDENTIAL, UH, USES PERMITTED ON THE UPPER FLOORS, UH, FOR THE PDA ZONING THAT WAS ADOPTED, UH, FOR THIS SITE. 
          UH, THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL COMPONENT, UH, MUST BE OCCUPIED BY THE SAME TENANT, UH, AS IT RELATES TO BUILDING HEIGHT, UH, FOR BLOCK A, UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE BLOCK IS COMPRISED OF THREE STORY BUILDINGS. 
          UH, THE ONE EXCEPTION WOULD BE THE FOUR UNITS THAT YOU SEE WITH FRONTAGE ON BELTLINE ROAD. 
          THOSE LIVE WORK UNITS, UH, ARE FOUR STORIES IN HEIGHT AND NOT TO EXCEED 60 FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          HEY, KIM KIM FOR A SECOND. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE'RE STILL ON MY SLIDE. 
          I'M STILL ON YOUR HOME PAGE AND YOU SEE ME FLIPPING THROUGH THE SLIDES. 
          NOPE. 
          LET ME STOP SHARING AND RESHARE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WITH THE TOWNHOMES, WHICH YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED IN ORANGE THERE'S 16 UNITS, ALL OF THOSE UNITS ARE THREE STORIES IN HEIGHT, UH, FOR BOTH THE LIVE WORK UNITS AND THE TOWNHOMES, UH, THE REQUIRED OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE REQUIRED BY THE PD, UH, INCLUDE A MINIMUM OF TWO GARAGE ENCLOSED SPACES FOR EACH UNIT, UH, THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED, UM, VIA SIDE-BY-SIDE SPACES OR IN TANDEM. 
          UH, THERE'S A MIX OF TANDEM AND SIDE-BY-SIDE ORIENTATIONS THROUGHOUT, UH, THIS BLOCK AND I JUST SWITCHED SLIDES. 
          CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT? YEP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IN REVIEWING THIS DEVELOPMENT PLAN, UH, STAFF, UH, REVIEWED AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND CONCEPT PLAN, UH, INCLUDED IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE AND FOUND THAT THE PROPOSED PLANS FULLY COMPLY WITH THOSE REQUIREMENTS BRIEFLY, I'LL, I'LL RUN THROUGH THOSE REQUIREMENTS, STARTING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS PRESCRIBE, UH, DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE LOTS AS WELL AS THE BUILDINGS. 
          SO ITEMS SUCH AS SETBACKS BUILDING HEIGHT REQUIRED OPEN SPACE. 
          THIS PROJECT FULLY COMPLIES. 
          AS I NOTED EARLIER, PARKING IS REQUIRED TO BE ACCOMMODATED OFF STREET, UH, VIA THE GARAGE SPACES FOR EACH UNIT PARKING REQUIREMENTS, FULLY COMPLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THIS PD DISTRICT, OPEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPE, UH, ROSE ACTUALLY REVIEWED BY THE COMMISSION, UH, THROUGH THE PREVIOUS DEVELOPMENT PLAN APPROVAL, WHICH INCLUDED BLOCK A AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC REALM ELEMENTS OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED FOR BLOCK A FULLY COMPLIES WITH THAT PREVIOUS APPROVAL FROM MAY, 2016, THE EXTERIOR APPEARANCE OF THE FACADES. 
          UH, THERE ARE VARIOUS REQUIREMENTS THAT APPLY TO THAT, UH, THEIR REQUIREMENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT PRESCRIBED MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS, AS WELL AS, UH, SPECIAL FACADE TREATMENTS FOR PARTICULAR BUILDINGS, THE SITE, BUT THE PD REFERS TO THOSE BUILDINGS AS LANDMARK BUILDINGS. 
          AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY TWO LANDMARK BUILDINGS IDENTIFIED IN BLOCK. 
          A 
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THOSE ARE AT KEY INTERSECTIONS. 
          SO THE INTERSECTION OF BELTLINE AND OAK, AND THEN ALSO AT THE INTERSECTION OF OAK AND RUNYON, UH, THIS ELEVATION THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE IS THE SOUTHERN FACING FACADE FOR THE BUILDING AT OAK AND RUNYON. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE TO PROVIDE THAT LANDMARK BUILDING TREATMENT, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED ENHANCED WINDOW TREATMENTS AND THEN HAS ALSO PROVIDED A, UH, PROJECTING BALCONY THAT RATS ALONG AND AROUND THE EASTERN FRONTAGE, AS WELL AS THE SOUTHERN FRONTAGE, UH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS PRESCRIBED TO, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE'S ALSO SOME ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS, UH, THAT APPLY TO THE, UH, PRIVATE OPEN SPACE FEATURES THAT ARE FRAMED BY SOME OF THE TOWNHOME UNITS AND THEN ALSO NOISE MITIGATION COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE ENFORCED AT BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW IN YOUR SITE PLAN. 
          UH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UH, SOME OF THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACES THAT THE TOWNHOME AND LIVE WORK UNITS FRONT-ON, UH, THOSE ARE REFERRED TO AS PARTERRE, UH, LANDSCAPE, UH, SPACES IN THAT, UH, SITE AND LANDSCAPE PLAN. 
          AND THAT IS TO REFLECT A VERY FORMAL, UH, FRENCH LANDSCAPE TREATMENT IN THOSE AREAS. 
          AND WE BELIEVE THAT COMPLIES WITH THE INTENT AND STANDARDS IN THAT PD ORDINANCE. 
          SO IN OUR WORK SESSION YESTERDAY, UM, A LOT OF THE DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION WAS FOCUSED ON TRAFFIC IN THE ADDISON GROVE AREA, SPECIFICALLY, UH, RELATES TO INTERNAL TO THE SITE, AND THEN ALSO, UH, AT BELTLINE AND MIDWAY AND THAT PARTICULARLY THAT INTERSECTION. 
          SO I WANTED TO BRIEFLY FOLLOW UP ON THAT DISCUSSION AND ALSO GIVE THE COMMISSION, OF COURSE, IT'S A CHANCE TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL. 
          SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WAS THE LEVEL AND AMOUNT AND TIMING OF TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          SO SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL, UM, THAT WITH THE INITIAL ZONING, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2016, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS CONDUCTED AND THE CITY, UH, STAFF REVIEWED THAT ANALYSIS AND ALSO, UH, HAD OUR CONSULTANT ENGINEERING, UM, UH, GROUP REVIEW THAT ANALYSIS AS WELL, TYPICALLY, UH, UH, TIA WILL BE PRESENTED, UH, IN CASES LIKE THIS APP AND WITH THE REZONING REQUEST, BUT YOU ALSO MAY SOMETIMES SEE THOSE PRESENTED LATER IN THE PROCESS, SUCH AS WHEN CIVIL ENGINEERING DESIGN OCCURS, THAT VERY DETAILED DESIGN, WHERE YOU NEED TO KNOW AND DEFINITIVELY DEFINED KEY THINGS SUCH AS SITE ACCESS AND OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED FOR TRANSPORTATION. 
          SO WITH THAT ANALYSIS, TYPICALLY WHAT TRAFFIC ENGINEERS LOOK AT ARE, ARE KEY ELEMENTS LIKE SITE ACCESS, ROADWAY CAPACITY WITHIN THE PROJECT ROADWAY CAPACITY, UH, AT PERIMETER STREETS. 
          AND THEN ALSO OF COURSE, SAFETY AND EFFICIENCY, UH, NEEDS THAT, UH, ADJACENT INTERSECTIONS. 
          AND THEN ALSO AT TURN LANES IN AND OUT OF THE SITE. 
          I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE WORK SESSION YESTERDAY ARE CERTAINLY RELEVANT TO THIS CASE, BUT MUCH OF THEM PROBABLY MORE RELATE AND NEED TO BE REFLECTED THROUGH ADDITIONAL MONITORING OF THIS AREA. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS BEGINNING TO INFLUENCE THIS AREA AND WILL INFLUENCE IT IN THE FUTURE IS, IS THE ONGOING MIDWAY ROAD REVITALIZATION PROJECTS. 
          SOME OF YOU WHO, WHO COMMUTE THROUGH THIS AREA, UH, MAY SEE THAT THERE IS WORK ONGOING AT BELTLINE AND MIDWAY. 
          AND SOME OF THAT WORK IS BEGINNING TO IMPACT TRAFFIC PATTERNS ADJACENT TO ADDISON GROVE. 
          OTHER CONSIDERATIONS FOR THIS AREA. 
          I THINK A VERY IMPORTANT ONE IS, IS SITE ACCESS, UM, WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED AND, AND, UH, MADE IT THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS. 
          ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS THAT, UH, THE TOWN REQUIRED AND WISHES TO MAINTAIN IS, UH, ENSURING THAT THIS SITE DOES NOT PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE BELTWAY ROAD. 
          AND THAT IS ACCOMMODATED IN THE PDS ZONING AND EVERY ACTION THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH HAS BEEN CONSISTENT WITH MAINTAINING THAT RESTRICTED ACCESS OF NO PUBLIC VEHICULAR ACCESS WOULD BE ACCOMMODATED AT BELTWAY THAT'S, WHAT'S REFLECTED IN THESE PLANS, AND THAT'S, WHAT'S REQUIRED MOVING FORWARD BY THE ZONING THAT APPLIES TO THE SITE. 
          ANOTHER THING THAT 
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WAS MENTIONED WAS, UH, PARKING WITHIN THIS SITE AND CIRCULATION WITH THIS WITHIN THIS SITE. 
          UM, THIS IS A, A DIFFERENT FORM OF DEVELOPMENT THAN, THAN WHAT MAY OCCUR, UH, TYPICALLY AND ADDISON. 
          WE DO HAVE GREAT EXAMPLES OF THIS FORM OF DEVELOPMENT IN PLACES LIKE ADDISON CIRCLE, BUT FOR FOLKS THAT MOVE INTO PLACES LIKE THIS, UM, THERE IS A, UM, A PERIOD OF, UH, OF LEARNING AND LEARNING TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND LEARNING PACK PARKING PATTERNS. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SEE IN THIS IMAGE IN PARTICULAR IS THAT THE ON-STREET PARKING IS VERY MUCH IN DEMAND. 
          UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING STRUCTURE FOR THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, THE TOP FLOOR IS COMPLETELY EMPTY, BUT THE ON STREET PARKING, THE CONVENIENT PARKING IS, IS VERY MUCH IN DEMAND, UH, FOR FOLKS THAT ARE VISITING THIS SITE DURING THE DAY. 
          SO THERE IS PUBLIC OPEN PARKING IN THE GROUND FLOOR OF THAT PARKING STRUCTURE. 
          SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE FOLKS AND HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE AVAILABLE PARKING IS, WHERE THERE ISN'T ON STREET PARKING AVAILABLE IS THAT IS, UH, HEAVILY IN DEMAND WITH OUR REVIEW OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          UH, STAFF, ONCE AGAIN HAS FOUND THAT THE PLANS COMPLY WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 16 ZERO ZERO THREE, AS THIS PROJECT THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW PROCESS, AND ULTIMATELY TO BUILDING PERMITTING, WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS PROJECT FOR COMPLIANCE WITH CITY STANDARDS, THE APP RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO NO CONDITION  I CAN, UM, WHO ACTUALLY OWNS AND MAINTAINS THE STREETS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THESE ARE PUBLIC STREETS, OR SO THERE COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE THE TOWN COULD IMPLEMENT A NO PARKING OVERNIGHT ON THE STREETS. 
          THAT BECOMES AN ISSUE. 
          I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TOWN'S HISTORY OF ENFORCING THOSE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THEORETICALLY, UH, THAT COULD BE PUT IN PLACE. 
          UM, THERE ARE CERTAINLY COMPLIANCE CHALLENGES WITH ENFORCING RESTRICTIONS LIKE THAT, BUT IF PARKING BECOMES A PROBLEM, UH, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WE COULD CERTAINLY, UM, UH, VISIT WITH, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF AND, AND BEGIN TO IDENTIFY AND WORK WITH THIS COMMUNITY TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS. 
          MY MAIN CONCERN, THE, THIS WOULD BE ALSO DAYTIME, BUT LET, LET'S JUST PICK ON THE NIGHT. 
          YOU CAN FIRE THAT CAR, UM, MAKE IT THROUGH SOME OF THE STREETS WITH THE PARKING IT'S THERE. 
          FIRE DEPARTMENT REVIEWED, UH, THIS, THIS PLAN FOR COMPLIANCE WITH, UH, THE FIRE CARED AND THE STREETS ARE CONSTRUCTED THE PUBLIC STREETS STANDARDS. 
          SO, UH, PROVIDED THAT PEOPLE ARE PARKING LEGALLY AND NOT OBSTRUCTING THE STREETS. 
          OUR FIRE APPARATUS SHOULD NOT HAVE ISSUE, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THE, UM, HERE WE ARE HERE. 
          DO YOU HAVE A FORMAL PRESENCE OR YOU JUST WANT TO ANSWER QUESTIONS? WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL THEY POTENTIALLY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS, DENISE? WE CAN'T, UM, SHE CAN'T HEAR US OR WE CAN'T HEAR HER. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OLGA, LET ME ANSWER YOUR PHONE. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU CAN'T HEAR ME FROM THE COMPUTER. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHY. 
          THAT'S A QUICK QUESTION FOR KEN. 
          IS THE ELEVATIONS SAME CONSISTENT FROM THE APARTMENT TO THE TOWNHOUSE? LIKE, IS THERE VISUALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE COHESIVE. 
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GET A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK. 
          SORRY. 
          YEAH, I CAN'T GET TO MY SPEAKER. 
          HOLD ON. 
          LET ME GET THERE JUST A SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          BETTER NOW MATERIALS STANDPOINT, UH, BOTH ARE CONSISTENT AND THAT MASONRY IS THE DOMINANT MATERIAL, UM, AS TO COLOR, UH, I, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M JUST TALKING HYPE, LIKE THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT FUNDED THEIR FLOOR WISE. 
          THEY'RE THE SAME, BUT ARE THE HEIGHTS THAT THE RETAIL, SAME AS THE APARTMENT ON THE SECOND, THIRD AND FOURTH, BASICALLY, I WOULD SAY THE LIVE WORK UNITS, PARTICULARLY THOSE FRONTING BELTLINE WOULD BE MOST CONSISTENT WITH THE MULTIFAMILY. 
          UH, THE SCALE OF THE TOWNHOMES AND THE THREE-STORY LIVE WORK WOULD PROBABLY BE, UH, YOU'D HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TRANSITION TO THE MULTIFAMILY. 
          NO, I WAS SORRY. 
          I WASN'T CLEAR. 
          I MEANT JUST RIGHT THERE ON BELTLINE. 
          SO YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM THE QUESTION. 
          SO THE APPLICANT IS NOT OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ANYONE WHO WANTS TO SEE HAVE RIGHT. 
          COULD YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE? WELL, SARAH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE ADDISON GROVE PROJECT, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MAKE YOUR COMMENTS. 
          IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS TO BEGIN, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          COMMISSION, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND STAFF. 
          MY NAME IS JOSE GLOSSINESS AND I LIVE AT FOUR ONE, ONE SIX RUNYON ROAD, ADDISON, TEXAS, AND THE IN-TOWN HOMES, EDISON GROVE COMMUNITY. 
          MY WIFE AND I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE JUNE, 2020 HERE TO VOICE MY CONCERN AND COMMENT ON THE LACK OF VISITOR PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADDISON GROVE COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY TO THE PLANET EDITION OF THE 16 TOWNHOMES AND 17 LIVE WORK UNITS. 
          TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING CASE ONE SEVEN TWO NINE CURRENT STATE CURRENT BUILT TOWN HOMES AT ADDISON GROW BLOCK B IS 44 13 REMAINED TO BE COMPLETED FOR A TOTAL OF 57 THOUGHT B WILL ALSO HAVE THE LARGEST PUBLIC PARK OF THE COMMUNITY TO BE ENJOYED BY LARGE MEMBERS OF PEOPLE, GROUP PICNICS, CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA, COMMUNITY EVENTS, ET CETERA. 
          THE 57 TOWNHOMES AND PARK VISITORS SHARE 13 VISITOR SERVICE PARKING SPOTS FROM OUR MOVING DATE. 
          AND FOR THE CITY PARKING WARNINGS ARE FOUND. 
          NO PARKING IS ALLOWED IN THE DRIVEWAY OF THE HOME, UNLESS IT'S FOR LOADING OR UNLOADING. 
          THAT'S A HOMEOWNER. 
          I AGREE WITH THIS AUDIENCE, IF TWO CARS ARE PARKED SIDE BY SIDE, EMERGENCY OR SERVICE VEHICLES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ENTER OR EXIT THE BACK OR THE DRIVEWAY OF THE HOMES. 
          FURTHER, ALL SERVICE TRADE VEHICLES MUST BE PARKED ON A VISITOR SPOT OR THE SPACE ALLOCATED TO THE RESIDENT REQUESTING THE SERVICE. 
          THAT'S AN HOUR. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ASSIGNED PARKING SPOTS FOR SERVICE OR DISTRICT OR PARKING. 
          ALL PARKING IS SHARED TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING CASE ONE 72, 908 PERTAINS TO THE PLAN ADDITION OF THE 16 TOWNHOUSE AND 17 LIVE WORK UNITS FOR A TOTAL OF 33 NEW UNITS TO BE BUILT ON SECTION BLOCK AND BLOCK A WE'LL HAVE 33 COUNT HOMES AND WE'LL SHARE SIX VISITOR SERVICE PARKING SPOTS, THESE SIX PARKING SPOTS TODAY, OR TAKING EACH DAY BY THE RESIDENTIAL GUESTS OF ELAN ADDISON GROVE, APARTMENT COMPLEX LOCATED ACROSS THE BLOCK IN SUMMARY BLOCK A AND BLOCK B TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING CASE, BUT ADDISON GROVE WILL HAVE 90 10 HOMES AND SHARE 19 VISITOR PARKING SPOTS. 
          THESE 19 PARKING SPOTS WILL BE USED BY THE OWNERS OF THE TOWNHOME THROUGHOUT THE YEAR RESIDENTS 
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OR GUESTS OF ELAN, ADDISON GROVE, APARTMENT COMPLEX, AND FAMILY MEMBERS VISITING DURING SPECIAL HOLIDAYS DURING THE YEAR. 
          I'M CONCERNED AS THE TOWN HOME OWNER THAT THE ALLOCATED AMOUNT OF PARKING SPOT IS NOT ENOUGH TO SUPPORT THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWNHOMES FOR BLOCK A N B OF ADDISON GROVE. 
          AND AS THAT ADDITIONAL VISITOR PARKING SPOTS BE ALLOCATED IN BLOCK A OR B TO SUPPORT THE CURRENT OWNERS, SERVICE TRADE VEHICLES AND FAMILY VISITORS, THANK YOU, COMMISSION, COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPE YOUR ACTION HAS TAKEN ON DELIGHT THE VISITOR PARKING AND COMPARING THAT WITH THE APPLICANT'S RESPONSE TO THAT. 
          IT WAS CUTTING OUT A LITTLE BIT. 
          SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, IS SHE SAYING THAT IT LOOKS LIKE SOME BIG APARTMENT PEOPLE ARE USING THE PARKING ON OUR SECTION? WE PARKED THE CARS OF THE NIGHT. 
          I THINK THERE WAS NOT ONLY THAT, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT THERE'S JUST NOT ADEQUATE PARKING TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE NUMBER OF TIMES VERSUS THE NUMBER OF VISITORS. 
          WELL, LET ME, LET ME GO BACK ON THE APARTMENT IS BECAUSE THIS IS PUBLIC PARK AND WE WOULD LOVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE CAN DESIGNATE THOSE SPOTS DOWN OR THAT ARE ON OUR PROPERTY, THE TOWNHOME PEOPLE, BECAUSE THE APARTMENT PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE PARKING ON A PARKING SPOT. 
          THE ONLY PROBLEM IS, IS HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT EIGHT, PERHAPS THAT'S OUR QUESTION FOR YOU. 
          IF THE CITY ALLOWS US TO PUT SOME SIGNS UP THAT SAYS TOWN HOME TOWN, HOME VISITORS ONLY, I GREW OKAY WITH THAT. 
          THERE'S STILL AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, NATE DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN VISITORS AND APARTMENT DWELLERS IS IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE AN ALL OR NOTHING PROPOSITION. 
          YOU'D EITHER HAVE PARKING ONLY FOR SAY SERVICE VEHICLES ONLY DURING A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME DURING THE DAY WITH NO OVERNIGHT. 
          UM, OR YOU'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THE RESIDENTS OF THIS TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, UH, TO DEAL WITH THE TRAFFIC IS, AS KEN MENTIONED EARLIER OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY FIND A WAY TO WORK THROUGH THIS, BUT IF, IF THE, UH, UH, THE WOMAN WHO JUST SPEAKING, SHE SAYS, SHE'S BEEN THERE SINCE JUNE, I BELIEVE 2020. 
          AND SO IF SHE HASN'T QUITE FIGURED IT OUT NOW, THERE MAY, THERE MAY BE A BIGGER PROBLEM THAN WHEN THEY BELIEVE MORE THAN JUST EDUCATION YOU'RE ON MUTE, BOB. 
          SO, UM, ARE ALL OF THE, UH, RESIDENTS THERE, IS THERE SOME SHORT OF A, UH, PARKING STICKER OR SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE ON A FIXED TO THEIR WINDOW THAT WOULD IDENTIFY THEM AS EITHER A RESIDENT OR A, UH, A HOMEOWNER OR A CONDO OWNER OR AN APARTMENT, A RENTER, IS THERE SOME WAY TO IDENTIFY THE CARS THAT ARE THERE THAT WOULD, AND THEN YOU CAN FIND OUT THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THE STICKER, THEN YOU CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THEM, BUT IF ANYBODY WILL NEVER FIGURE THIS OUT, IF THERE IS NO IDENTIFYING STICKER THAT TAGS THEM TO THAT COMPLEX, IT WOULD SEEM THAT WOULD BE MOST LIKELY FOR THE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTS. 
          UM, IF IT MA FIGURALLY WHERE THE, THE, THE, UH, TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT IS AND ITS LIFE CYCLE, THEY MAY NOT BE THAT ORGANIZED. 
          WHAT, WHAT I WOULD OFFER AS A POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION FOR THIS ISSUE IS THE CITY IS OFTEN CHALLENGED IN ENFORCING PARKING AND ON, ON PUBLIC STREETS. 
          THAT THAT IS, THAT IS A CHALLENGING ISSUE ALWAYS. 
          AND IT, IT, UH, IS DIFFICULT TO ADDRESS, UM, HOWEVER, PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS, HOS MULTIFAMILY, UH, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANIES. 
          THEY DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, CERTAINLY FOR HOA ADOPTS DEED RESTRICTIONS THAT RESTRICT AND CONTROL HOW PARKING IS DONE WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          BUT THEN ON THE MULTIFAMILY SIDE, PROPERTY MANAGERS ENTER INTO CONTRACTS WITH THEIR TENANTS, AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLACE CONDITIONS ON THEIR BEHAVIORS AND HOW DO THEY UTILIZE THEIR PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS. 
          SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT I THINK TO START WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO ADDRESS WITH 
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THE PROPERTY MANAGER, FOR THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT OF THAT FOR THEIR TENANTS, BUT THEN ALSO ON THE DEVELOPER AND HOA SIDE AS WELL. 
          UM, UH, TALKING THROUGH PARKING CONDITIONS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND I THINK ONE THING THAT MAY NOT BE AS WELL KNOWN AS IT MAY BE IN THE FUTURE, OR NEEDS TO BE IN THE FUTURE IS THAT THE GROUND FLOOR OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE, UH, FOR THE MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY IS PUBLIC AND AVAILABLE FOR RETAIL VISITOR TYPE OF PARKING. 
          THERE IS SOME PARKING OPPORTUNITY ON THE SITE THAT MAY NOT BE GETTING WELL UTILIZED. 
          GRANTED, IT IS A LITTLE MORE LONGER OF A WALK. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          ONE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTROL VISITORS WITH PARKING. 
          I MEAN, STICKERS, AREN'T GONNA ELIMINATE SPECIFIC COMPONENT OF THAT. 
          IS THERE ANY WAY TO ASK OR CONSIDER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS OR WHATEVER, FOR SOME KIND OF TEMPORARY PARKING TO BE PLACED IN BLOCKS C OR D THAT AREN'T BEING ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. 
          CAUSE THEY PUT SOME EXTRA SPOTS IN THERE THAT ARE DEDICATED FOR JUST TOWNHOME OWNERS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S LOOK INTO THAT. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE USING FOR CONSTRUCTION STAGING. 
          YEAH. 
          I'D LET US LOOK INTO THAT. 
          WAIT TO BUILD WE'LL DO, I JUST DON'T WANT TO POUR A CONCRETE THAT KNOWING THAT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO TEAR IT UP, BUT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WE CAN MAKE IT WORK AND MAKE IT WORK. 
          YEAH. 
          RESERVED PARKING PLACES IN THE BUILDING. 
          TYPICALLY THEY'RE NOT RESERVED. 
          UH, WHAT YOU HAVE IN, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS THE GROUND FLOOR IS OPEN, BUT WHEN YOU GET TO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE, IT'S, IT'S SECURED TO RESIDENTS ONLY. 
          UM, SO THE SECOND THROUGH THE TOP FLOOR OF THAT PARKING STRUCTURE IS RESTRICTED ACCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANTS? I DON'T HAVE THE QUESTION, BUT I THINK IF WE, IF WE DON'T, UH, IF THIS ISSUE ISN'T RESOLVED, THEN IT'LL JUST FESTER AND GET WORSE AS IT GOES ALONG. 
          WELL, I'M ALSO WONDERING IF SOME OF THE CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE ARE USING THOSE SPOTS. 
          SO THERE WERE STILL, THERE WAS NO CONSTRUCTION PEOPLE THERE OVER THE WEEKEND. 
          WHEN I DROVE, WHEN I DROVE THROUGH THAT COMPLEX AND ALL OF THE PARKING PLACES WERE FULL, THERE WASN'T A SINGLE AVAILABLE PARKING PLACE, UM, ANYWHERE TO BE FOUND. 
          AND THIS WAS THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON. 
          SO THAT IS THE APARTMENT. 
          WELL, LET ME REPEAT THAT. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHO IT WAS. 
          UM, I CAN REACH OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT PEOPLE, BUT I THINK A JOINT EFFORT WITH ME IN THE CITY REACHING OUT TO THEM MAY BE BETTER TO TALK TO THE DEPARTMENT MANAGER AND MAYBE THEY CAN SEND SOME KIND OF EMAIL OR MAYBE, MAYBE I CAN'T, I'LL CALL YOU TOMORROW. 
          WE'LL FIGURE OUT SOMETHING HOW TO APPROACH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX. 
          I THINK SOME SORT OF EDUCATIONAL EFFORT AND MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THIS AREA, PARTICULARLY ON THE FRONT END OF THIS PROJECT BEFORE IT'S FULLY OCCUPIED, THAT PROBABLY A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HELP PEOPLE GET USED TO THE PARKING CONDITIONS AND THE CIRCULATION CONDITIONS IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. 
          BECAUSE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT WILL HAVE, UH, THE, THE BUSINESS OWNERS ON THE RESTAURANT SIDE AND THE HOTEL OWNER ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE PARKING WILL SPILL OVER INTO THEIR AREAS BECAUSE THAT'S AVAILABLE PLACES TO PARK. 
          THAT'S WHAT ULTIMATELY HAPPENS. 
          IT'S CONVENIENCE. 
          THAT'S WHY THE TOP FLOOR OF THAT PARKING GARAGE IS EMPTY BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS TO GO UP THERE AND PARK. 
          SO I WANT TO TURN TO THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE PARKING GARAGE AS PUBLIC. 
          IT, IT DOES NOT HAVE RESTRICTED ACCESS. 
          SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANY ADVERTISEMENT TO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, IT WOULD SEEM THAT THAT'S, THAT'S LIKELY PART OF THE PROBLEM. 
          OKAY. 
          I WILL MAKE SOME CALLS TOMORROW. 
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ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I'LL MAKE A MOTION, SAY 1821, Z AS IN DRY BLOCK, THE APPROVED AS REQUESTED WITH NO CONVICTIONS. 
          SO YOU FRANCISCO, IF YOU WILL, UM, VOTE ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE, RAISE YOUR PEOPLE ACTUALLY RAISE YOUR DAMN. 
          IT'S EASIER TO SEE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          HMM. 
          [4.  PUBLIC HEARING Case 1824-Z/TCA Middle School Addition. Public hearing, discussion, and take action on a recommendation regarding a development plan for the development of the first phase of the Trinity Christian Academy Master Concept Plan, including a site plan, landscape plan, preliminary utility and drainage plans, and building elevations for a new middle school building, in an existing Planned Development District (PD), through Ordinance O16-040, located on approximately 19.3 acres addressed as 17001 Addison Road.]
OUR SECOND CASE, THE SEASONING IS CASE 1824 Z TTA MIDDLE SCHOOL EDITION, PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE FIRST PHASE OF THE TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY MASTER CONCEPT PLAN, INCLUDING THE SITE PLAN LANDSCAPE PLAN, PRELIMINARY UTILITY AND DRAINAGE PLANS AND KNOWING ELEVATIONS FOR NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING IN AN EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR ORDINANCE 16 DASH. 
          SO YOU WERE ON FOUR, SO YOU ARE POSSIBLY 19.3. 
          I FIRST ADDRESSED AT 17 AND ONE, UH, STAFF REPORT PLEASE. 
          YES, MA'AM GOOD EVENING. 
          ONCE AGAIN, COMMISSIONERS KEN SCHMIDT, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          CAN YOU ALL SEE MY SLIDES? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF ADDISON ROAD AND SOJOURN DRIVE. 
          UM, SO THE LARGER TCA CAMPUS, UH, IS, UH, SHADED IN BLUE. 
          UH, THE AREA THAT WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON TODAY WITH THIS CASE IS REALLY A, UH, SMALLER SEGMENT, UH, WITH, UH, THAT IS JUST TO THE NORTH OF SOLDIER AND DRIVE. 
          IT IS A 2.3, TWO ACRE SEGMENT, UH, AND THE APPLICANT, UH, TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY IS PROPOSING A NEW MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING AS WELL AS AN ATTACHED LIBRARY AS PART OF THE, UH, FIRST PHASE OF THEIR MASTER CONCEPT PLAN, UH, AND OVERALL CAMPUS EXPANSION AND REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          UH, SO WITH THAT, UH, REQUEST, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A SITE PLAN, A LANDSCAPE PLAN, PRELIMINARY UTILITY AND DRAINAGE PLANS AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS, UH, FOR YOUR REVIEW, UH, FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE ADOPTED PLAN DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO THIS SITE. 
          UH, SO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT THIS SITE, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. 
          SO TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, AT THIS SITE, UM, IN 1976. 
          UH, SO WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, THIS AREA WAS ZONED, UH, RESIDENTIAL  AND THE, UH, PRIVATE SCHOOL USE WAS PERMITTED BY A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN JANUARY, 2016. 
          UH, THE ACADEMY ELECTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT MASTER CONCEPT PLAN, UH, FOR, UM, UH, EXPANDING, UH, THEIR OPERATIONS AT THIS SITE, MONITORIZING, UH, THEIR FACILITIES, UH, AND PROVIDING FOR AN OVERALL MASTER PLAN TO GUIDE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT ON THE CAMPUS. 
          SO, UH, ROUGHLY, UH, THIS, UH, MASTER CONCEPT PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE TOWN IN 2016, UH, ACCOUNTS FOR THE ADDITION OF 250,000 SQUARE FEET OF NEW BUILDING AREA. 
          AND THEN ALSO INCLUDES A PARKING STRUCTURE, WHICH YOU CAN SEE AT THE, UH, NORTHERN, UH, PORTION OF THE SITE. 
          AND THEN IT ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR THE, UM, DEMOLITION AND REMOVAL OF 150,000 SQUARE FEET OF EXISTING FACILITIES ON THE SITE. 
          UM, SO LAST MONTH, UH, WITH THIS APPLICATION, UH, TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY NOW PROPOSES THEIR FIRST PHASE OF IMPLEMENTATION FROM THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN. 
          THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO DESCRIBE THIS AS PHASE ONE A, UH, SO THIS PHASE ONE, A COMPRISES A MIDDLE-SCHOOL BUILDING, UH, WITH AN ATTACHED LIBRARY, UM, TO ORIENT YOU TO THIS SITE, UH, THIS PROPOSED NEW FACILITY IS, UM, IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST 
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OF THE ATHLETIC FIELD AND TO THE WEST OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT, AND PARKING THAT FRONT ON SOJOURN DRIVE. 
          UH, THE PROPOSED MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING, UH, WOULD BE A THREE STORY BUILDING, UM, NOT TO EXCEED 55 FEET IN HEIGHT. 
          AND THEN THEY ATTACH LIBRARY BUILDING AS A ONE-STORY BUILDING, UH, 22 FEET IN HEIGHT, UH, TOTAL FLOOR AREA FOR THESE TWO FACILITIES, UH, IS JUST OVER 45,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          ARE I MENTIONED THAT THIS IS REALLY PHASE ONE, A PHASE ONE B REALLY COMPRISED OF, UH, WHAT YOU SEE AND OUTLINE IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF THESE TWO PROPOSED FACILITIES, UM, THAT IS, UM, UH, PLAN FOR FUTURE CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND THAT WILL INCLUDE A FACILITY FOR FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE INSTRUCTION, AND THEN ALSO A CHAPEL, UH, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS, UH, OVERALL, UH, FACILITY. 
          HEY, KENNY, ARE YOU MEANING TO SHOW US ADDITIONAL SLIDES BEYOND THE FIRST SLIDE? YES. 
          WE'RE STILL CIRCLING YOUR FIRST SLIDE. 
          UH, I'M SORRY, LET ME SHARE AGAIN, YOU SEE BUILDING OUTLINES OF THE SITE PLAN. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, AS I MENTIONED, UH, THE LARGER PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING. 
          AND THEN THE SMALLER PORTION OF THE BUILDING IS THE LIBRARY TO THE NORTH WOULD BE PHASE ONE B, WHICH IS THE FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE FACILITY. 
          AND THEN ALSO, UH, THE CHAPEL, UM, THERE ARE SOME SITE ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED OFF OF SOJOURN DRIVE AS WELL. 
          UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING DRIVE THAT YOU CAN SEE, UH, OUTLINED IN RED HASHMARKS, UH, THAT WOULD BE REMOVED. 
          AND THEN A NEW DRIVE WOULD BE EXTENDED, UH, TO THE EAST OF THAT CONNECTING THE SOLDIER AND DRIVE AND THE ADJACENT PARKING LOT. 
          UH, THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS TO PROVIDE FOR BETTER STACKING, UH, OFF OF SOJOURN DRIVE AND THEN ALSO TO PROVIDE FOR, UM, UH, BETTER SPACING BETWEEN ADJACENT DRIVEWAYS TO BETTER MEET, UH, TOWN REQUIREMENTS FOR DRIVEWAY SPACING, UH, ON A COLLECTOR STREET. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I JUST SWITCHED SLIDES. 
          CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS STANDPOINT, UM, THIS SITE LARGELY COMPLIES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          WE'LL DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER INTO ONE ISSUE, UH, THAT, UH, WE NEED TO ADDRESS AND GET DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION ON, BUT FROM A, UH, BUILDING, UH, LOT AND MASTER PLAN DIMENSIONAL STANDARD STANDPOINT. 
          UH, THIS IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE. 
          UH, THIS BUILDING MEETS HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS, AND THE ADDITIONAL FLOOR AREA, UH, IS WITHIN THE MAXIMUM PERMITTED FLOOR AREA, UH, THAT IS PERMITTED BY THE PD ZONING AND THE, UH, MASTER CONCEPT PLAN ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SITE. 
          THE FACADE THAT YOU SEE IN THIS SLIDE IS THE STREET FACING FACADE. 
          SO THE SOUTHERN ELEVATION, UM, THIS, UM, BUILDING FULLY COMPLIES WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE ACCOMMODATED, UH, IN THIS, UH, PD DISTRICT LARGELY THROUGH, UH, BRICK AND STONE VENEER, MASONRY, UH, AND ALSO THROUGH THE PROPOSED GLAZING, UH, THAT ARE, IS ACCOMMODATED ON THIS FACADE, THE ISSUE THAT WE NEED DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION ON RELATES TO THE PROPOSED TREE REMOVAL, UH, FOR THIS SITE. 
          UM, SO THIS HAS A HEAVILY TREE COVERED SITE, WHICH IS CERTAINLY A VERY POSITIVE THING FOR AN INSTITUTIONAL USER LIKE THIS. 
          UH, HOWEVER, TO FACILITATE THIS MASTER PLAN IMPLEMENTATION THERE ULTIMATELY WILL BE NEEDED, UM, UH, TREE REMOVAL, ACCOMMODATE NEW BUILDINGS, PARKING AREAS, NEW ACCESS DRIVES, AND OTHER SITE FEATURES SUCH AS ATHLETIC FIELDS. 
          UH, WITH THIS PHASE, WE'LL GET PROPOSES TO REMOVE JUST UNDER 370 CALIPER INCHES OF, UH, TREE COVER, PROTECTED TREE COVER AND HAS PROPOSED TO REPLACE THAT ON-SITE WITH EIGHT, EXCUSE ME, 10, EIGHT INCH CALIBER TREES. 
          AND THEN FOR THE REMAINING 289.9 CALIBER INCHES OF REQUIRED MITIGATION, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO PAY A FEE AND LIEU OF ONSITE PLANTING TO THE ARBOR FOUNDATION OF ADDISON 
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IN ORDER TO ACCOUNT FOR TREE PLANTINGS IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE IN NEED OF TREE CANOPY. 
          THE REASON FOR THAT REQUEST, UH, REALLY DATES BACK TO THE, UM, APPROVAL AND REVIEW OF THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN. 
          UH, AT THAT TIME, THE APPLICANT PRESENTED THE STAFF THAT BASED ON THAT MASTER CONCEPT PLAN WITH THE NEW BUILDINGS AND, AND ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE TO BE MADE, UH, THERE IS NOT SUFFICIENT SPACE TO ACCOUNT FOR NEW TREE PLANTINGS WITHOUT ULTIMATELY IMPACTING THOSE AS THAT MASTER PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED. 
          THE OTHER ISSUE THAT CAME UP DURING OUR WORK SESSION YESTERDAY, UH, RELATED TO, UH, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, BOTH ON AND OFF SITE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS SLIDE, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED AN INTERIM TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT ULTIMATELY WILL PROVIDE FOR IMPROVED CONDITIONS AS IT RELATES TO, UM, LOADING AND QUEUING IN THE VICINITY OF SOJOURN DRIVE. 
          THE OTHER CONCERN THAT GOT BROUGHT UP, UH, RELATED TO PARKING ON, ON SOJOURN DRIVE. 
          UM, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO, UM, EVER COMMUTE AND TRAVERSE THAT CORRIDOR, UH, YOU'LL KNOW, QUITE A FEW, NO PARKING SIGNS, PARTICULARLY ON THE, THIS SIDE OF THAT CORRIDOR, BUT ALSO ON THE NORTH SIDE, A FULL JOURNEY IS A 34 FOOT WIDE COLLECTOR, UH, THEORETICALLY AND ACCOMMODATE TWO TRAVEL LANES AND ONE PARKING LANE, BUT IT IS NOT REALLY STRIPED FOR THAT, UH, FUNCTIONALITY. 
          THE STRIPING IS STRAIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE, UH, OR A FENDER LINE AND THERE'S NO PARKING STRIPE. 
          UM, SO WHEN THERE IS ON STREET PARKING ON SOJOURN, THAT CAN BE A CHALLENGE. 
          AND, AND, AND WHAT WE WOULD SUGGEST AS A DESIRABLE CONDITION FOR THIS INTERIM TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS, IS REALLY TO DISCOURAGE, UH, ANY ON-STREET PARKING ON SOLDIER AND DRIVE. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, UH, THE PROPOSED PLAN DOES COMPLY WITH THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF NEEDED DIRECTION FOR THE PROPOSED TREE MITIGATION OPTION THAT, UH, THE APPLICANT PREVIOUSLY WORKED THROUGH WITH BOTH THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND PARKS DEPARTMENT STAFF. 
          SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UH, SUBJECT TO COMMISSION DIRECTION ON THAT TREE MITIGATION ISSUE. 
          YOU HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, AGAIN, COULD WE, TO THE LANDSCAPE PICTURE OF THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, OR MAYBE TWO OR THREE SLIDES ARE ALL OF THE EXES TREES THAT WILL BE REMOVED IS YES, SIR. 
          AND, AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S A VERY LOVELY TREE CANOPY DRIVEWAY THAT GOES BETWEEN THE CONSTRUCTION SITE AND EXISTING BUILDINGS. 
          I'M ASSUMING, BASED ON WHAT I'M LOOKING AT HERE, THAT IS ALL GOING TO BE TORN OUT, THAT THAT DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE DEMOLISHED AND ALL THOSE TREES WE PULLED UP IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS. 
          AND ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH SOUTH DRIVEWAY, OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, UH, IS THAT, THAT EAST WEST WALKWAY? WELL, IT'S, IT, IT GOES BETWEEN I THINK THE DINING ROOM AREA. 
          UM, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, THERE ARE, THERE ARE VEHICLES THAT COME DOWN THROUGH THERE CAUSE I SAW A COUPLE OF THEM COME DOWN, SO IT IS A DRIVEWAY OF SORTS, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT UP AGAINST THE, UH, THE CURRENT LARGE FIELD ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE STADIUM. 
          AND ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT FIELD, UH, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY, VERY TREELINE THAT GOES BACK INTO THE CAMPUS AND IT IT'S KINDA CURVES AROUND. 
          UM, BUT FROM THIS DRAWING I'M SEEING, THERE'S NO CURVING DRIVEWAY. 
          IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S JUST A BEIGE COLOR ON THIS ONE PICTURE. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, AND WE DIDN'T GET INTO THIS YESTERDAY, CAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION, THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION SIDEWALK. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO RIP OUT THE ENTIRE DRIVEWAY. 
          MAYBE IT'S BETTER TO AFRICAN ANSWERS IS LATER ON, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. 
          BUT AS FAR AS YOUR QUESTION, UM, MY CONCERN IS THAT HOW DO YOU SET THE PRICE OF THESE TREES? AND THEN IF YOU GIVE THAT MONEY TO THE ARBOR FOUNDATION, WHAT CAN, WHAT RESTRICTIONS DO THEY HAVE USED FOR TREE PLANNINGS VERSUS SOME OF THE ART PROJECTS THEY'VE GOT GOING ON? UM, AND WHAT HAPPENS IF ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PLANTING AND THE TREES, UM, BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WE HAVE WITH FREEZING OR ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON RECENTLY THAT THERE'S HIGH DEMAND FOR LANDSCAPING, UM, AND FREEZE FOR INSTANCE, THAT THE COST ENDS UP BEING MORE THAN WHAT DCA HAS DONATED. 
          SO THOSE WOULD BE MY CONCERNS AS FAR AS THIS 
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MITIGATION FEE IS ONE IS WHO PUTS RESTRICTIONS ON THE ARBOR FOUNDATION. 
          NOW THOSE DOLLARS CAN BE USED, UM, WHO DECIDES WHERE THE TREE IS GOING TO BE PLANTED. 
          AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF THE COST ENDS UP BEING MORE THAN WHAT A TCA DONATED WE'LL GET BACK INTO THE DRIVEWAY ONCE THE APPLICANT COMES ON, I GUESS, OKAY. 
          I THINK THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE GREAT POINTS. 
          UH, YOU BRING UP AS IT RELATES TO, UM, HOW THE, UH, FUNDING OR HOW THE, THE MITIGATION FEE WOULD BE DETERMINED AND, AND HOW IT ULTIMATELY BE USED BY THE, THE ARBOR FOUNDATION. 
          UH, I DO THINK THERE WOULD NEED TO BE ADDITIONAL COORDINATION, UM, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, BETWEEN OUR PARK STAFF AND THE FOUNDATION TO, TO PUT IN SOME GOOD CONTROL MEASURES TO ENSURE THAT THE INTENT OF THAT FUNDING, UH, IS, IS ONE GETTING THE MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK. 
          SO YOU DON'T RUN INTO ISSUES WHERE, UH, WE'RE OVERPAYING TO AND NOT BEING ABLE TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE SHOULD ACHIEVE WITH THAT, THOSE FUNDS, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THERE'S, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS MADE FOR, FOR LONG-TERM MAINTENANCE OF THOSE TREES AND, AND THERE'S, UH, ASSOCIATED CONDITIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, WHAT THE TOWN WANT TO SEE FROM A TREE PLANTING STANDPOINT. 
          SO I DO THINK THERE'S MORE DIALOGUE NEEDED ON THAT END WITH OUR, OUR PARK STAFF, UH, TO, TO REALLY MAKE THIS, UH, A MUCH MORE FUNCTIONAL, UH, USE OF THOSE FUNDS. 
          HMM. 
          AND KEN, I KNOW THIS IS KIND OF BEING SOMEWHAT NITPICKY, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREE REMOVAL, THAT'S THE FURTHEST ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THIS PLAN THAT I GUESS IS WHERE A DRIVEWAY GOES TO YOU. 
          IT'S A ONE STAND-ALONE REMOVAL. 
          THAT ONE REALLY SEEMS TO BE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          AND I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE ADDING TREES TO GET REMOVED, JUST TO GO PAY A FEE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THEY CAN GET AROUND IT AT THIS POINT. 
          I'M A LITTLE OFF AS TO WHY THAT ONE IS OUT THERE AND IT'S LABELED LIKE NUMBER 100. 
          YES, I WILL LET APPLICANT ADDRESS IT. 
          I DO KNOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALSO HAVING TO DO SOME UTILITY AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL. 
          SO IT MAY BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT I'LL LET THEM CONFIRM THAT. 
          THANKS ALSO DANCING. 
          ALSO, I WAS WONDERING IN REGARD TO THAT FEE, IF MAYBE THAT COULD BE STATED INSTEAD OF DOLLARS, THEY STATED IN CALIPER INCHES OR SOMETHING AS AN IDEA, I'VE JUST SEEN THAT DONE IN A COUPLE OF PLACES. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GREAT SUGGESTION. 
          HEY KEN, THIS IS, THIS IS CHRIS NEW WAY. 
          THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US CALIBER INCHES, EITHER BEING, UM, YOU KNOW, RESERVED OR REPLACED. 
          AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A SHORTFALL OF 289. 
          DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY TREES IS THAT REALLY AMOUNT TO BASED ON MAYBE WHAT THEY'RE REPLACING IT WITH? SO THE, WHAT THEY ARE PLANTING ONSITE WOULD BE, UH, ATYPICAL, UH, AN EIGHT INCH CALIBER REPLACEMENT TREE IS NOT COMMON. 
          UH, TYPICALLY YOU WOULD SEE, UH, REPLACEMENT TREES IN THE, IN THE THREE TO FOUR INCH RANGE. 
          SO, UM, LOOKING, LOOKING AT THAT, YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE 70 TO 170 TO 95 TREES BASED ON, ON THE SIZE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT WOULD BE DIAMETER DIAMETER. 
          OKAY. 
          W W W WHAT I WOULD, I HATE TO, I HATE TO LOSE THE SCREEN. 
          I MEAN, I, IF YOU GO BACK THERE AND BUY THAT SOFTBALL FIELD AND FOOTBALL FIELD, I MEAN, THERE IS A SEA OF PARKING BACK THERE, A PARKING LOT. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF CONCRETE. 
          I MEAN, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THEY CONSIDER, UH, MAYBE, MAYBE ISLANDS WITHIN THAT PARKING LOT. 
          AND, AND THERE WERE SOME TREES UP IN THERE. 
          I, I JUST, I HATE TO LOSE THE TREES THAT THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL OPTION. 
          THE, THE ONE THING THAT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE FOR THAT ISSUE WOULD BE THEIR COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, SO RIGHT NOW THE PD IS, IS WORDED IN A WAY THAT, UM, THEY MUST MAINTAIN A MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING, UH, UH, THROUGHOUT THE, THE PHASED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CONCEPT PLAN. 
          UM, AND THAT MINIMUM AMOUNT OF PARKING IS WHAT EXISTS ONSITE CURRENTLY. 
          UM, WITH THIS PROJECT, 
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THEY ARE REMOVING FOUR SPACES, BUT THEY'RE REPLACING THOSE SPACES. 
          SO ANY OTHER PARKING REMOVALS WOULD TAKE THEM OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE PD. 
          UM, SO JUST AN ADDITIONAL COMPLAINT FOR ME TO, FOR THAT, BUT I, I WOULD AGREE THAT, UH, ADDING MORE TREES TO THE PARKING AREAS IS, IS, UH, IS CERTAINLY A GOOD OPTION FOR, FOR, UH, REPLACEMENT TREES. 
          ANOTHER POSSIBILITY MIGHT BE TREES ALONG FAR, WEST PROPERTY LINE. 
          UM, THERE, THE TOWNHOUSES OVER THERE THAT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE A NOISE BARRIER FOR THOSE TOWNHOUSES AND THEN THEIR FOOTBALL GAMES, THAT THAT CAN BE AN ISSUE. 
          SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD SOLUTION TO BE TREES ON THAT FAR WEST, UM, PROPERTY LINE. 
          EXACTLY. 
          SO THIS IS A QUESTION FOR TED. 
          IF WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ADDITION, AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEN TCAS TO COME BACK TO US WITH A PLAN, UM, ON WHAT TO DO WITH THE TREES. 
          CAUSE WE'VE THROWN OUT SOME SOLUTIONS, WE'VE THROWN OUT A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES AND OPTIONS, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SETTLE ON ONE OR TWO TONIGHT. 
          SO CAN WE MAKE A CONDITION TO ADD TO THIS MOTION THAT THEY COME BACK WITH A THREE PLAN AT SOME LATER DATE? I THINK YOU CAN MAKE A CONDITION THAT THE, I BELIEVE CAN DO THAT I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HEAR PARK AND ON THIS, UM, AND TCA AND THIS, I THINK THERE WAS A VARIETY OF SOLUTIONS. 
          I LIKED THE IDEA OF NOT DOING DOLLARS, BUT CALIFORNIA. 
          WE'VE GOT TO CONSIDERATION OF THE NOISE THING THAT EILEEN JUST SAID. 
          UM, AND TO BE HONEST, THE NEIGHBORS IN THIS AREA, I'M SURE HAVE GROWN USED TO KIND OF LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET AND STAYING UP THE WHOLE CAMPUS. 
          AND NOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF THAT BEING RIPPED OUT. 
          UM, AND SO IF ANYTHING, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LOT OF THESE TREES GO BACK INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AS OPPOSED TO, UM, TREES, EVEN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD HERE, OR, YOU KNOW, MIDWAY AREA, UM, LAY LOCK AREA, UM, FRESH, DON'T USE MANY TREES. 
          SO I, I, I THINK THERE'S A, I THINK THERE'S A BIG QUESTION ON ALL OF THIS, WHICH I THINK WOULD BE BETTER DRESSED, MORE DELIBERATE, UM, NEGOTIATIONS MADE. 
          I THINK IT'S THE NEXT SLIDE HAS ONE AFTER THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, SO BACK UP ONE, AND IF WE'LL LOOK AT THE PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE, IT APPEARS THAT THE PARKING THERE'S A LOOP THERE. 
          UM, THE SOUTH OF THE NEW PROPOSED STRUCTURE. 
          NOW I GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE CAN APPEARS TO BE VERY DIFFERENT CARD THING THAT WAS SHOWN PREVIOUSLY. 
          THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THERE THAT THAT CONCERNED ME. 
          AND THAT IS ON THE, LOOKING AT YOUR, YOUR PICTURE THERE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT, IT APPEARS THAT THE PARKING WOULD BE AN AVENUE FOR CARS TO LINE UP THROUGH THE PARKING LOT, RATHER THAN FILL ME IN THE SOLDIER. 
          THAT WOULDN'T BE A BETTER POSSIBILITY FROM THE TRAFFIC FLOW, THE PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO THAT COULD ACTUALLY COME IN EDISON ROAD AND AROUND IN FRONT OF THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE EXISTING PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO COME IN OFF ADDISON ROAD, UM, COVER AROUND AND THEN GO THROUGH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LOOP SO THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE A LINE OF TRAFFIC ON THE CITY STREETS. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY, I KNOW IT'S CONFUSING. 
          WHAT THEY SHOW HERE IS THE NEW BUILDING OVERLAID ON THEIR, THEIR BUILD-OUT PLANS. 
          SO THE MASTER CONCEPT PLAN. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS ASSUMING EVERYTHING IN THEIR CONCEPT PLAN GETS BUILT. 
          SO IT'S FINAL CONDITIONS. 
          AND THEN THIS SITE PLAN IS REALLY AN INTERIM CONDITION. 
          GOT IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW. 
          I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WEREN'T CHANGING FROM THE OTHER BECAUSE THE OTHER APPEARS TO BE A MUCH BETTER PLAN FOR HOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A TRAFFIC FLOW DEGREED. 
          AND ALSO THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER. 
          IT HAS THE PARKING GOING THE OTHER WAY OR 
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THE ACTUAL WAY THAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. 
          SO ARE THEY STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT ENTRANCE FURTHER DOWN? THAT'S ALMOST RIGHT NEXT TO THE, UH, THE INTERSECTION, RIGHT. 
          IS THAT GOING TO BE WALKED OFF? SHE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THERE SAYING AN ENTRANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          I SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          THEY'RE USING THAT SAME ENTRANCE, BUT THEY'RE MAKING A LITTLE LONGER, BUT NOT, I STILL THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A REAL, REAL BAD ISSUE THERE. 
          CARSON JUST DIDN'T LINE UP BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE WAITING FOR CHILDREN TO COME OUT AND THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY GOOD WAY OF IN FURTHER BACK WHEN I GET THERE, GET YOUR CHILD AND GET OUT. 
          SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE KIND OF A BLOCKED ISSUE. 
          HERE'S THE, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY. 
          YEAH, SURE, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND BE POSITIVE IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE BACKED UP ON TWO BOATS OR THE ANDERSON ROAD. 
          IT IS, IT DOES HAPPEN. 
          UH, I LEFT TURN COMING OUT OF THE MUSCLE AREA IS GOING TO DOMINO TRAFFIC ALL THE WAY BACK TO THAT BLUE MOON AND COME BACK OUT ON THE STORAGE SOLDIER. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY SOME DISCUSSIONS TO NOT HAVE A LEFT TURN COMING OUT OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AREA AND JUST HAVE IT RIGHT. 
          TURN ON. 
          UM, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ADDING MORE TRAFFIC ONTO ADDISON AND CURRENT APP RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO MY, MY CUTE LITTLE LIKE IDOLIZE TREELINE DRIVEWAY. 
          THEY CAN EGGS, THEY CAN COME IN OFF THE ROAD, BUT THEY CAN EXIT OUT TO THAT DRIVEWAY ON THE SOJOURN RIGHT NOW. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE THIS, THIS PROPOSED PLAN. 
          WE'RE GOING TO PUT ALL THAT TRAFFIC PEOPLE THAT TYPICALLY MIGHT PICK THE SOJOURN EXIT. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO FORCE THEM THEN THE EXIT MACRON AND SOME ROAD IT'S GOING TO BE PRETTY CONGESTED. 
          BUT I, BUT I DO THINK IN SOME AREAS THEY'RE ADDING DIDN'T, I READ A THOUSAND FEET TO IMPROVE THE CARPOOL LANES. 
          SO WON'T IT. 
          IF THAT'S TRUE, IT SEEMS LIKE THE FLOWS MIGHT BE BETTER THAN THEY HAVE IN THE PAST. 
          YEAH. 
          ONE QUESTION. 
          ARE THEY GOING TO MAKE IT TO THE ONLY MIDDLE SCHOOL PEOPLE CAN BE PICKED UP THERE? SO THAT'S, THAT'D BE A LESSER AMOUNT OF PEOPLE CONSIDERING RIGHT NOW IT'S FOR THE WHOLE SCHOOL, HAD A VERY DIFFERENT CHATTER AND FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR KIM, THIS ONE TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO SEE IF I CAN PROBABLY ADDRESS SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS BETTER. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KIM BEFORE WE DO THAT? ALL RIGHT. 
          IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO STATE? YES. 
          HELLO. 
          UM, MY NAME IS TESSA PHILLIPS. 
          I WORK FOR KIMLEY-HORN AND ASSOCIATES, UM, WHERE THE CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. 
          UM, ALSO ON THE LINE I HAVE WITH ME, UM, JEREMY ROHR, WHO'S THE ARCHITECT AT GFF, AND THEN I BELIEVE DAWN IS STILL ON AND SHE WORKS FOR TCA. 
          AND THEN BILL PITTS IS THE OWNER'S REP. 
          SO WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF PEOPLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          UM, SO JUST, JUST LET US KNOW WHAT YOU NEED US TO ANSWER. 
          WHY DON'T WE START WITH THE PARKING SINCE WE HAVE THAT NOW COULD ADDRESS THE PARKING ISSUE ALONG CITY STREETS, I GUESS. 
          WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS YOUR QUESTION? UM, SPECIFICALLY, IS IT GOING TO, IS THERE GOING TO BE QUEUING ON CITY STREETS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE DROP-OFF HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED? SO I DON'T BELIEVE SO. 
          UM, SCOTT, IF YOU WANT TO CHIME IN HERE, SCOTT'S OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          I DID THE, UH, TRAFFIC CONTROL PLAN, TARGET MANAGEMENT PLAN DURING THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN EFFORT AS WELL. 
          SO THIS IS AN INTERIM CONDITION. 
          THE MASTER PLAN USES ALL OF THOSE PARKING LOTS ALONG SOJOURN TO DEAL WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TRAFFIC. 
          SO THERE IS A LOT MORE SPACE IN THE FUTURE FOR THINGS IT'S JUST NOT SET UP THAT WAY YET TODAY WE'RE ROUGHLY DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT'S AVAILABLE ALONG SOJOURN OFF OF THE STREET, ON THE CAMPUS ITSELF, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO QUEUE UP OUTSIDE OF THE CITY STREET. 
          SO IT WILL BE A TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT OR WHAT'S HAPPENED. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS TODAY WITH THAT ONE SKULL AREA THAT USED ESSENTIALLY THAT AREA GETS DOUBLED FOR WHAT'S OUT THERE, UM, AS FOR THE EXIT TO ADDISON ROAD, WE BELIEVE THAT YES, THERE IS SOME PEOPLE THAT SNEAK THROUGH DOWN TO SOJOURN RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SEEING THAT AS ESSENTIALLY A POSITIVE THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE A KICKBACK TO THE HIGHER CAPACITY ADDISON ROAD AND OUT THROUGH THE, UH, POLICE OFFICER CONTROLLED INTERSECTION THERE. 
          BUT, UH, BASICALLY THIS IS AN INTERIM CONDITION JUST FOR THE MIDDLE 
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SCHOOL, BUT IT WILL IMPROVE THAT AREA ALONG. 
          SO IT MAY NOT BE COMPLETELY FIXING THAT PROBLEM. 
          THAT'LL BE FOR THE OVERALL ULTIMATE MASTER PLAN, BUT IT WILL BE A BETTER CONDITION THAN WHAT'S THERE TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT IS THE CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE BRING ALL THE FIRST PHASE THAT YOU COMPLETED? WE'RE TARGETING JULY, JULY TO AUGUST. 
          HI, THIS IS DAWN BAY AND I'M WITH TRINITY CHRISTIAN ACADEMY. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS GOING TO HELP WITH THE CARPOOL SITUATION IS THE STUDENTS CURRENTLY NOW ARE ON THE BUILDINGS RIGHT THERE ON THE EAST AND, UM, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE, THE DRIVE ON SOLDIER. 
          AND THAT'S CURRENTLY WHERE THOSE STUDENTS ARE LOCATED. 
          WE'RE MOVING THEM INTO THE NEW BUILDING, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE NOW PICKED UP FURTHER AWAY FROM SOJOURN ROAD. 
          THE TEMPTATION NOW IS WHEN MOM COMES INTO THAT LOT TO JUST JUMP IN THE CAR. 
          AND SO NOW WE FAST MOVING ALL OF THE STUDENTS DOWN TOWARD THE OTHER END OF THE CAMPUS. 
          WE BELIEVE THAT THAT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP. 
          AND THAT'S WHERE THAT ADDITIONAL THOUSAND FEET COMES INTO PLAY. 
          SO STUDENTS WILL BE LOADING INSTEAD OF LOADING RIGHT UP THERE, WHERE THEY FIRST ENTER INTO THE CARPOOL QUEUE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOADING AT THE END OF THE CARPOOL QUEUE, WHICH WE THINK WE'LL KEEP THAT MOVIE. 
          YOU MENTIONED THE, UH, PATROLMEN CONTROL EXIT ONTO ADDISON. 
          IS THERE ONE ON SOJOURN OR WOULD THAT BE A CONSIDERATION? THERE'S NOT ONE ON SOJOURN AT THIS TIME, BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING UP THERE AT ADDISON AROUND OUR HIGH SCHOOL IS CURRENTLY WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AND WHAT WE DO NOW. 
          SO THERE IS NO CHANGE TO THAT THAT REMAINS THE SAME AS IT'S ALWAYS BEEN. 
          THERE ARE SOME CARS, AS YOU DID MENTION THAT DO COME THROUGH THAT INTERIOR ROAD NOW TO EXIT OUT OF THAT QUEUE. 
          UM, AND THOSE ARE THE CARS THAT WE WILL BE ROUTING BACK AROUND TO THIS, TO THIS NEW AREA WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO QUEUE UP. 
          AND AM I CORRECT? THAT, THAT, THAT CUTE LITTLE DRIVE WAS GOING TO BE DISAPPEARING. 
          NOW, A PIECE OF THAT IS WE'RE TRYING TO GET TRAFFIC OUT OF THE INTERIOR OF OUR CAMPUS FOR SAFETY OF OUR STUDENTS. 
          AND SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT DESIGN AND ONLY LIKE SHOULD ONLY A PIECE OF THE DRIVER'S GOING, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ARE BEING SAVED. 
          I BELIEVE YOU MEAN THAT, THAT CONNECTION. 
          UM, IF YOU CAN SEE THE, THE PLAN ON THE SCREEN, UM, THERE'S THAT FIRE LANE ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE PLAN, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE YOUR CURSOR NORTHEAST. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE CONNECTION PIECE THAT USED TO GO SOUTH OF THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT THE PIECE OF CONCRETE IS GOING AWAY, BUT THOSE TREES, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE TREES ARE GRAYED BACK WITH THE PLUS SIGNS. 
          THOSE ARE ALL STAYING. 
          SO JUST A LITTLE SOUTH. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAD A QUESTION ON THOSE BEING REMOVED QUESTIONS. 
          WHY ARE THOSE THREE BEING REMOVED ON THAT PORTION OF THE CONSTRUCTION SITE? THOSE TWO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, I BELIEVE AS KEN DESCRIBED, SO THE ONE THAT ONE THAT'S LABELED 100, UM, WE'RE HAVING TO REBUILD THAT CURB AND MAKE IT TIGHTER FOR THE FIRE TRUCK TO FIT. 
          AND, UM, THE TREE IS JUST NOT GOING TO SURVIVE THE BEING ABLE, UH, MAKING THAT HAMMERHEAD AVAILABLE FOR OUR TARGETS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO UNDERCUT THE ROOTS SEVERELY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE TWO AT THE, UM, NORTH, UM, NORTHWEST CORNER. 
          YEP. 
          THOSE TWO RIGHT THERE. 
          PERFECT. 
          UM, THOSE ARE WHAT, UH, WHAT HE DESCRIBED IN THAT THOSE ARE UTILITY CONNECTION THROUGH THERE. 
          UM, WE'RE DOING ON-SITE DETENTION THAT WE'LL NEED TO CONNECT TO THE EXISTING STORM. 
          UM, AND WE DID OUR BEST TO BE EFFICIENT, TO AVOID UPSETTING TREES, AS MANY TREES AS WE COULD SAVE, UM, AND AVOID THE BASKETBALL COURTS THERE AS WELL. 
          AND THEN RIGHT. 
          CAN, IF YOU COULD MOVE YOUR CURSOR ONTO THAT ROAD, GET RIGHT THERE WHERE IT'S AT NOW GO UP, UP, UP TOWARD THE ROAD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AFTER JUST KIND OF FOLLOW THAT TO THE LAST, JUST COME DOWN SLOW, OR IT ENDS THAT CAN, THAT ROAD CONTINUES NOW. 
          SO JORN, AND YOU'RE GOING TO CUT THAT OFF. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND ALL THOSE TREES ALONG THAT THEY'RE JUST ALONG THAT ROAD RIGHT NOW, OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE COMING OUT? NO, THEY'RE STAYING. 
          THAT'S WHY THEIR GRADE BACK WITH PLUS SIGNS. 
          THAT MEANS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO SURVIVE. 
          WHEREAS THE ONES WITH BLACK XS ARE THE ONES THAT WE DON'T THINK WILL SURVIVE THE CONSTRUCTION. 
          SORRY. 
          ARE YOU GONNA MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO NOT DAMAGE THEM OR ARE YOU JUST GONNA ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THEM OUT? OH, OF COURSE WE'LL MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO, TO NOT DAMAGE THEM. 
          I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE, UH, CITY OF ADDISON, UH, YOU KNOW, STANDARD GUIDELINES FOR CONSTRUCTION AND, AND ALSO JUST, UM, OUR, OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IS VERY INVESTED IN LIKE THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL TREES AND IT'S NEVER OUR INTENT TO TAKE ON MORE THAN WE HAVE TO. 
          AND WHAT ABOUT RELOCATING THEM? LIKE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? IS THERE ANY WAY TO JUST SAVE THESE AND PUT THEM IN OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY, SINCE THERE'S KNOW, YEARS OF GROWTH ON THEM? YOU KNOW, JEREMY, I'LL LET YOU CUT ME OFF IF I'M SPEAKING OUT OF TURN, BUT I THINK THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT ON OTHER PROJECTS AND THE COST CAN BE PRETTY EXTREME FOR THAT. 
          AND THE TREES DON'T ALWAYS SURVIVE ANYWAYS. 
          EVEN IF 
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YOU TRY TO REMOVE THEM, ESPECIALLY LIKE YOU SAID, SOME OF THEM ARE OLDER AND HAVE LARGE ROOT, UH, ROOT BALLS. 
          AND SO SOMETIMES EVEN WHEN YOU TRY TO RELOCATE THEM, YOU THINK YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH OF THE ROOT BALL AND IT DIES ANYWAYS. 
          UM, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW, JEREMY, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT OR PHEW, THAT'S A GOOD, I WOULD, I WOULD AGREE. 
          AND JUST TO CHIME IN ON A COUPLE OF THE OTHER THINGS, UH, REGARDING THE TREES, UM, YOU KNOW, AS I THINK WAS KIND OF MENTIONED THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT IS PLANNED FOR THAT FULL FUTURE BUILD OUT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PLANNED THAT CAREFULLY TRYING TO LIMIT THE IMPACT IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE THAT'S KIND OF, WHAT'S GOTTEN TCA INTO THE PROBLEMS THEY'RE AT NOW. 
          THEY INITIALLY HAD ALL THIS SPACE AND THEY WOULD BE PLANNING BUILDINGS AND THEY WOULD JUST THROW IT IN THE OPEN SPACE. 
          WE'RE AT A POINT NOW TO WHERE THE LAST OPEN SPACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT THIS BUILDING, AND WE'RE NOT REALLY ABLE TO MITIGATE ONSITE UNTIL WE'RE TEARING OUT FUTURE BUILDINGS TO FULLY FIX THE TRAFFIC, TO CONSOLIDATE SOME OF THE CAMPUS BUILDINGS. 
          UM, AND ALSO JUST OBVIOUSLY IMPROVED THEM SINCE THEY ARE AGING. 
          UM, THE PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH, AS KEN MENTIONED BEYOND THE WHOLE ISSUE OF BEING ABLE TO, UH, CONTINUE TO MEET THE PD IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF SPACES IS THERE'S ALSO A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. 
          THERE THERE'S A CONSOLIDATED ATHLETIC CENTER AND ALSO A PARKING GARAGE TO, UH, MITIGATE THE SPACES LOST FROM THAT. 
          BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S LOTS OF NOW, UH, INTER INTERSTITIAL GREEN SPACE BEING ADDED IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO IN THE FUTURE PHASE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE TO, UM, YOU GOING FOR A FUND BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S NOT OUR INTENT. 
          UM, IT'S JUST THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE'RE WITH OUR HANDS BEHIND OUR BACK A LITTLE BIT, THERE WAS A RECENT RENOVATION TO THE, UH, PRE-K ON CAMPUS, WHICH INCLUDED A NEW CANOPY, WHICH CUT OUT A COUPLE OF TREES. 
          AND IT WAS, IT WAS HARD TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO MITIGATE THOSE ON SITE. 
          AND THOSE WERE JUST A FEW OF THEM. 
          SO, UH, REALLY IT'S, IT'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL. 
          WE WISH WE COULD SAVE MORE, BUT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO OBVIOUSLY LOOK AT ANYTHING WE CAN DO, UM, WITHIN REALITY OF, OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME WHEN THE NEXT PHASE IS GOING TO BEGIN? WE KNOW WHEN THIS ONE'S GOING TO FINISH, WHEN'S THE NEXT ONE TO BEGIN? WE, WE ARE, UM, IT'S ALL DRIVEN BY THE FUNDRAISING. 
          AND SO WE ARE IN, UM, FUNDRAISING RIGHT NOW TO TRY TO ADD THE OTHER PHASES ON, UM, IT'S HARD TO SAY IT TOOK US SIX YEARS TO RAISE THE FUNDS FOR THIS. 
          SO, UM, THE DONOR COULD STEP FORWARD AND IT COULD HAPPEN VERY QUICKLY OR IT COULD TAKE QUITE A FEW YEARS. 
          LIKE THERE'S NO WAY REALLY TO SAY. 
          SO DON, UM, CURRENT, DID YOU HAVE FUNDING FOR THE ENTIRE MIDDLE SCHOOL? CHAPEL LIBRARY AND FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE OR JUST FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL? JUST FOR THE MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE APPROVING TONIGHT IS JUST MIDDLE SCHOOL AND AGAIN, NOT, NOT THE LIBRARY, JUST THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LIBRARY TOO. 
          WELL, THE LIBRARY IS ATTACHED TO THE, THAT FIRST PHASE ONE, EIGHT MIDDLE SCHOOL. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS ALL WE'RE APPROVED TONIGHT, AND THEN WE GET ANOTHER BITE AT THE APPLE WHEN YOU GUYS COME BACK FOR THE CHAPEL AND THE FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADE, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, IF NOT, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ALL GOOD. 
          DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WHO IS GOING TO WANT TO SPEAK? NO. 
          AND IN THAT CASE WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND UM, SO WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          YEAH, I GUESS SINCE I BROUGHT IT UP, NOT AS PEER OR CASE 1824, DESI TCA, NO SCHOOL EDITION, UM, AND LIBRARY, UH, TO BE APPROVED, BUT WHAT'S THE CONDITION THAT TCA PREPARING PLAN OF TREE MITIGATION TO PRESENT IT TO THE TOWN FOR CONSIDERATION, AND THEN EVENTUALLY PLANNING DESIGN COUNSELING. 
          IS THERE A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND THE SAME SIGN MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          [5.  PUBLIC HEARING Case 1823-Z/4525 Belt Line Road. Public hearing, discussion, and take action on a recommendation regarding an ordinance changing the zoning on property located at 4525 Belt Line Road, currently zoned Planned Development (PD), through Ordinance 089-015, by amending the permitted uses and approving a Special Use Permit for a brewpub and restaurant with the sale of alcoholic beverages for on premises consumption only.]
OUR THIRD CASE OF THE EVENING EVENING IS CASE 18 2345 25. 
          PUBLIC HEARING THE DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE CHANGING THE ZONING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 45 25 
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CURRENTLY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THROUGH ORDINANCE ZERO EIGHT, NINE DASH ZERO ONE, BY MAKING THE PERMITTED USES AND PER A PREDATE, A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR OUR BREAKUP IN RESTAURANT WITH A SALAD ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR OUR OWN PREMISES CONSUMPTION OF WHAT CAN WE HAVE THE SACKLER COURT, PLEASE? CAN EVERYONE SEE THE SLIDES OR A SLIDE? OKAY, GREAT. 
          THIS REQUEST IS SPECIFIC TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 45 25 BELTLINE ROAD, WHICH WAS PART OF A LARGER PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AND COMPENSATING, APPROXIMATELY 11 POINT 66 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED BETWEEN ARAPAHO ROAD AND BELTLINE ROAD. 
          UH, JUST WEST OF THE BELTWAY, OR I'M SORRY. 
          UM, JUST WEST OF THE BELTWAY DRIVE INTERSECTION, UH, THE APPLICANT OPED, HANDCRAFTED, BARBECUE AND BREWERY IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE EXISTING PD TO INCLUDE BREWPUB AS AN ALLOWED USE THROUGH AN SVP SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, AND IS ALSO REQUESTING THE APPROVAL OF THE SET SUP FOR THE NEW BREW PUB AND RESTAURANT WITH, UH, THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION ONLY EXCLUSIVELY APPLYING TO THE RESTAURANT COMPONENT. 
          UH, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES A TOTAL OF 10,088 SQUARE FEET, UH, CONSISTING OF 66, UH, 6,647 SQUARE FEET OF INTERIOR BUILDINGS, 600 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN AIR, UH, SMOKE SHED, AND A TOTAL PATIO AREA, UM, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ENTRANCE OF 2,841 SQUARE FEET. 
          UH, THE PROPOSAL EXCEEDS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND EXTERIOR FACADE REQUIREMENTS SET IN THE ORIGINAL PD. 
          UM, AND I'M REALLY, THEY'RE JUST MAKING VERY MINOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXTERIOR BY ADDING SOME GLAZING AND THE, THE SHED ITSELF. 
          SO, UM, AS PROPERTIES UNDERGO THE REZONING PROCESS, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE BROUGHT UP TO CURRENT LANDSCAPE AND MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN STANDARDS, UH, WHERE POSSIBLE THE LANDSCAPE PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED FOR COMPLIANCE BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. 
          AND WHILE THEY DO NOT FULLY MEET THE REQUIRED 20% LANDSCAPE COVERAGE, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO FULLY COMPLY WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UH, SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS BY REPLACING THE EXISTING FIVE FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK THAT IS, UH, DIRECTLY ON THE BACK OF THE CURB FOR BELTLINE ROAD WITH AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK, AN EIGHT FOOT PARKWAY BUFFER AND ASSOCIATED LANDSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS THERE, I SHOULD ALSO BE NOTED THAT THEY ARE NOT REMOVING ANY OAKS. 
          THEY ARE REMOVING THREE DAMAGED BRADFORD PEARS. 
          UM, I THINK THEY'RE THERE ALONG HERE. 
          UH, IF YOU CAN SEE MY CAR, SIR, AND THEY'RE ALSO REMOVING THREE SMALLER ORNAMENTAL TREES, UH, ALONG THE FRONT, AND THOSE ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE MITIGATED. 
          UM, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, MOVE THE SITE CLOSER TO COMPLIANCE, UH, WHILE BALANCING THE FINANCIAL FEASIBILITY OF PROVIDING THE MORE DESIRED SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ALONG BELTLINE ROAD, UM, AS STAFF HAS KIND OF HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION IS, IS A PRIORITY. 
          UH, SO WHILE THE APPLICANT DOES NOT INTEND TO USE THE WORD BREWERY IN THEIR EXTERIOR SIGNAGE AND, UH, AND KEEPING WITH THE TOWN'S TYPICAL SUP REQUIREMENTS, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL NOT USE ANY TERMS OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS THAT RELATE TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN ANY EXTERIOR SIGNAGE AND HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          YEAH. 
          HI, THIS IS CHRIS. 
          I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS. 
          UH, UM, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, COMPLY WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN AS THEY IMPROVE THE SIDEWALKS. 
          UM, INCLUDE A BUFFER, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO EXPAND TO PATIOS. 
          ARE THEY LOSING ANY PARKING THERE OR NOT? CURRENTLY THE EXISTING PARKING, UH, CURRENTLY BE WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING THE PATIO IS JUST AN OPEN, UM, KIND OF, UH, LANDSCAPED AREA. 
          SO THEY'RE JUST TRANSITIONING THAT INTO A, UH, PATIO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN OFF OF BELTLINE, I THINK THEY'RE GREAT MYRTLES THERE. 
          I'M JUST ASSUMING THEY'RE GETTING RID OF THOSE BECAUSE THEY'RE WIDENING THE SIDEWALK AND W W WHY ARE WE NOT REQUIRING THEM TO REPLACE THOSE? IT'S JUST A SPACE ISSUE. 
          I BELIEVE CREPE MYRTLES ARE CONSIDERED AS, UH, ORNAMENTAL TREES AND THEY DO NOT REQUIRE MITIGATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          COULD YOU CONFIRM IF THEY'RE ADDING SOME LANDSCAPE ISLANDS IN THE REAR PARKING LOT THAT WOULD LOSE SOME PARKING SPACES? I'M SORRY. 
          YES, YOU ARE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YES, YOU'RE CORRECT. 
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I FORGOT ABOUT THE ISLANDS. 
          YES, THERE, THEY ARE ADDING, UM, ISLANDS, BUT THEY'RE STILL, UH, OVER PARKED BY 10 PARKING SPACES, I BELIEVE. 
          AND THAT IS, UH, BECAUSE, UM, AS PART OF THE INITIAL PD ORDINANCE, UH, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO USE THE PARKING ALONG, UH, THIS ACCESS EASEMENT HERE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, KEN. 
          SO THE, UM, THEY'RE NOT QUITE UP TO THE 20%. 
          IF WE WERE TO FORCE THEM TO DO THAT, THEN THEY WOULD LOSE ENOUGH PARKING THAT THEY'D BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND PARKING IS KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS HERE. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S A BALANCE IF THE COMMISSION CHOOSES TO, UH, UH, REQUEST ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, BE PROVIDED, UM, UP TO THE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT LOSING THE 144 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED. 
          SO I THINK THE 10 PARKING SPACES THAT YOU COULD UTILIZE, UM, YOU, YOU COULD MAKE THAT A CONDITION, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT? WOW. 
          IF NOT, AS THERE'S SOMEONE HERE IN FROM THE APPLICANT THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, UH, YES. 
          UM, THIS TRAVIS DO SKY, SO I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND ON THE PHONE OR OUR GUESTS IN THE MEETING AS WELL. 
          I BELIEVE THERE'S A CLINTON NORTON, UH, OWNER, UM, UH, VOTE AND ALSO, UM, ROBERT KIRK, UH, THE ARCHITECT, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE AS FAR AS THE PERCENT LANDSCAPING. 
          WE DON'T HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT ON THE PHONE WITH US, BUT, UM, WE DID LOOK AT THAT AS FAR AS, OKAY. 
          WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE MET THE, UH, THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS AND IT, IT ATE UP A LOT MORE PARKING THAN WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MEET CODE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS COME INTO A HAPPY MEDIUM TO GET TO WHERE, UM, UH, WE'RE MEETING THE INTENT OR THE BEST WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE NEEDED TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH THE AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPE AND WAY WE HAD PROVIDED. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, SO THAT WAS THE, UH, THE, IN THE ATTEMPT THAT WE'VE, THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          UM, WE ALSO KNEW THAT THE BELTLINE, UM, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WAS A, WAS A MAJOR FOCUS FOR, FOR THE TOWN. 
          AND, UH, WE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO WORK REALLY HARD ON THAT FRONT AREA TO HELP, UM, HELP GET THAT PART OF THE PROJECT IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT, WHAT THE TOWN HAD, UH, ENVISIONED ALONG BELTLINE. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT PARKING LOT? UM, IT'S NOT REALLY A STRAIGHT BEAR, BUT YOU KIND OF TURN ON THE STREET RIGHT NOW. 
          IT REALLY LOOKS TERRIBLE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO SOMEBODY'S SHRUBS AND TREES IN THERE THAT HAVE DIED. 
          SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT AREA IS PROBABLY SHOWING A RESULT OF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND THE FACT THAT IT IS SUCH A NARROW STRIP OF LAND, AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE TREES THAT HAVE DIED, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE, UH, THE BRADFORD PEARS THAT DON'T GO AS POINT OUT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE THREE ALONG THAT, UH, THAT AREA, I THINK THAT'S DIRECTLY CORRELATED. 
          I'M NOT A LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT, BUT JUST HAVE DONE ENOUGH OF THESE PROJECTS TO KNOW THAT THAT WAS A REALLY NARROW STRIP OF LAND PROBABLY THROUGH TIME JUST DIDN'T SURVIVE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE IF, TRY TO PUT ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT PROPOSED, THERE'S SOME EXISTING SHRUBS ALONG THERE THAT LOOK THEY'RE IN PRETTY DECENT SHAPE. 
          SOME OF THEM HAVE DIED, BUT, UM, THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT WHAT WE CAN GET DONE IN ALONG THAT, ALONG THAT AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          I DIDN'T ANTICIPATE YOU CAN PUT A TRAYS IN THERE, BUT I CERTAINLY WOULD THINK SOME KIND OF SHRUBBERY OR SOMETHING BECAUSE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA, YOU WANT TO BUILD A BEAUTIFUL FACILITY. 
          YOU WANT THE PROPERTY TO LOOK GOOD ALL THE WAY AROUND, AND THAT'S JUST AN AREA OF CONCERN THAT I HAVE. 
          OH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, GLEN, I DON'T KNOW IF CLINTON MADE IT ON OR NOT. 
          YES, I'M HERE. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. 
          YES. 
          WE PLAN TO CLEAN ALL THAT UP. 
          UH, AND I HAVE A VERY NICE AND DURABLE PLACES WE GO FORWARD. 
          SO, UH, WE'LL GET TO THE, THE MAIN DETAILS LIKE THAT. 
          THE 
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OTHER QUESTION THAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE CREPE MYRTLES IN THE FRONT OF THE FACING BELTLINE, I THINK THE MAIN REASON THOSE ARE BEING, UH, HAVING TO BE TAKEN OUT IS BECAUSE TO ACCOMMODATE THE, A NEW SIDEWALK. 
          THAT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, AND THAT'S APPRECIATED THAT YOU'RE COMPLYING WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          SO YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE IN SOUTH DALLAS OR DOWN SOMEWHERE. 
          IS IT ALSO A BREWERY? NO, SIR. 
          SO THIS IS YOUR FIRST CONCEPT OF BARBECUE AND BREWERY TOGETHER. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MISNOMER, I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY GOOD STATE, IT'S REALLY A MICROBREWERY. 
          IT'S NOT VERY LARGE. 
          UH, SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S, UH, IT'S A FEATURE THAT WE THINK THAT LONG-TERM WILL, THAT WILL ADD VALUE TO IT WHERE PEOPLE CAN, WE CAN CRAFT OUR OWN BEERS, SEASONAL BEERS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          SO I'M NOT GOING TO SIT DOWN IN EITHER THE PATIO AREA OR CERTAINLY THE INSIDE AREA AND SEE THE BARBECUE BEING COOKED AND ALSO THE BEER BEING BREWED. 
          WELL, YOU, YOU CAN SEE, YOU CAN SEE THE BREWERY AND THE, UH, INSIDE AND FROM THE OUTSIDE ON THE FRONT, THAT'S FACING, UH, BELTLINE, THE PIT SHED IS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY. 
          AND WILL IT BE VISIBLE TO THE PATRONS AT THE RESTAURANT? YOU'RE MUTED, SIR. 
          YEAH, YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          HEY, CLINT, YOU WERE ON MUTE. 
          WE COULDN'T HEAR I'M SORRY. 
          I APOLOGIZE. 
          WE'RE HAVING A FEW CONNECTION PROBLEMS. UH, THE, UM, THE, UH, PITS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER WILL HAVE WINDOWS ON THE INTERIOR AND THEY'LL ACTUALLY HAVE SOME, UH, SCREENS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT YOU COULD VIEW, BUT THE REAL VIEW WILL BE FROM THE INSIDE, NOT FROM THE PATIO, IT WAS A GREAT CONCEPT AND LOVE THEM TO ADDISON. 
          I THINK IT'S GOING TO REALLY ADD TO THAT PART OF TOWN. 
          ALSO, HONESTLY, WE WON'T BE BREWING BRAIN ONE DAY, TWO DAYS, PROBABLY MAX THERE. 
          UH, THE REASON FOR THE TIME, BECAUSE IT TAKES FROM ABOUT 12 TO 28 DAYS FOR FREE TO FINISH THE PROCESS IN HOLDING TANKS AND ALLOW EVERYTHING TO MATURE AND TO, UH, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          BUT THE BREWING TIME IS VERY SHORT TIME. 
          SO THE MOUTH BREWING DOESN'T TAKE THAT LONG. 
          IT'S REALLY ALL THE HOLDING AND AGING OF THE BEERS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALSO THE MAIN THING IS WE TRY TO KEEP THE BASIC EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, WE'LL CLEAN UP THE LANDSCAPING, ENHANCE IT ON THE OVERALL PLAN. 
          ONCE WE GO TO THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS AND GET MORE DETAILS OF THAT. 
          UH, BUT WE THINK BY DOING THIS, WE'LL ENHANCE THE, THE PROPERTY AND THE VALUE AND THE INTEREST LEVEL FOR THE CITY BATHS SENSE OF RENOVATIONS. 
          WHEN YOU GUYS PLAN TO BE OPEN, BE FIRST QUARTER 2022, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TO THE APPLICANTS HEARING, THEN WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OVER THAT. 
          WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WISHES TO SAKE. 
          NOW MA'AM THANK YOU. 
          IN THAT CASE, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION 1823 Z, UM, 45, 25 BELTLINE ROAD, UH, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL NOT USE ANY TERMS OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS IN REALLY RELATED TO ALCOHOL BEVERAGES AND THEN EXTERIOR SIGNAGE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ALL IN FAVOR. 
          RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE. 
          [6.  PUBLIC HEARING Case 1822-SUP/The Biscuit Bar. Public hearing, discussion, and take action on a recommendation regarding an ordinance changing the zoning on property located at 5294 Belt Line Road, Suite 106, which property is currently zoned PD, Planned Development, through Ordinance O19-22, by approving a Special Use Permit for a new restaurant with the sale of alcoholic beverages for on premises consumption only.]
THAT IS CASE 1822, AS SHE PAID THE BISCUIT BAR PUBLIC HEARING DISCUSSION AND TAKE ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE CHANGING THE ZONING ON PROPERTY LOCATED AT 52 94 BELTLINE ROAD, SUITE ONE OH SIX, WHICH PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR ORNAMENTS ON 19 DASH 22, BY CREATING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEW RESTAURANT FROM THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION. 
          UNLIKE THE STAFF REPORT, PLEASE, UH, THE PROPOSED NEW TENANT IS INTERESTED IN A GROUND FLOOR. 
          THE SPACE IN BUILDING D THE FORMER SERVICE MERCHANDISE WITHIN THE PRESTON WOULD PLACE A SHOPPING CENTER LOCATED AT 
          [01:35:01]
THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF BELTLINE ROAD IN MUMFORD DRIVE. 
          UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS RECENTLY REZONED, UM, TO, UH, PD DISTRICT AND PROVIDES ENOUGH PARKING FOR FULL OCCUPANCY FOR THE ENTIRE CENTER. 
          THE LANDSCAPING AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS WERE ALSO ADDRESSED AT THAT TIME. 
          AND THE CENTER WAS BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE AS PART OF AS MUCH AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN. 
          UM, AS PART OF THAT REZONING PROCESS, UM, THE BISCUIT BAR IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A NEW SUP FOR A RESTAURANT WITH THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES FOR ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION. 
          ONLY THE NEW RESTAURANT SPACE WOULD TOTAL 3,482 SQUARE FEET, INCLUSIVE OF 386 SQUARE FOOT OUTDOOR PATIO, UM, UH, INTERIOR DINING ROOM AND AN INTERIOR DINING ROOM SEATING, 123 WITH OUTDOOR PATIO SEATING, 34. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MAKE JUST SOME VERY MINOR EXTERIOR IMPROVEMENTS, UM, IN A FORM OF PAINTING AND ADDING SOME LIGHTING. 
          BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE KEEPING THE NEW FACADES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED AS PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS BUILDING. 
          UM, SO THE ONE UNIQUE THING ABOUT THIS CASE AS WELL, SIGNS ARE NOT TYPICALLY APPROVED THROUGH THE SUP PROCESS. 
          UH, AS YOU'VE SEEN, WE TYPICALLY REGULATE THE TERMS AND GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS RELATED TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. 
          UM, HERE STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT THE TERM BAR IS A PROMINENT PART OF THE RESTAURANT'S IDENTITY AND ITS SIGNAGE. 
          AND, UM, IN SIMILAR CASES IN THE PAST, UM, THE TERM BAR WAS EQUATED MORE TO TERMS LIKE A SALAD BAR OR DESSERT BAR. 
          SO FOLLOWING THOSE PREVIOUS EXAMPLES, UH, STAFF BELIEVES THAT IN THIS CASE, THE TERM BAR SHOULD NOT BE ELIMINATED FROM THE RESTAURANTS, EXTERIOR SIGNAGE, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE BUSINESS NAME BISCUIT BAR, THE BISCUIT BAR. 
          UM, SO WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE TYPICAL CONDITION. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT SHALL NOT USE ANY TERMS OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS THAT RELATE TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AND ANY EXTERIOR SIGNAGE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THEIR FULL BUSINESS NAME, THE BISCUIT BAR  WELL, GOOD. 
          YOU MUST'VE DONE A GREAT JOB MATH QUESTIONS HERE TO SEE, I DON'T THINK SO. 
          OH, NO, WAIT, APPLICANT. 
          THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE HERE. 
          HOLD ON, ALICIA. 
          YOU, THERE YOU ARE. 
          HEY OLGA. 
          HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? GOOD. 
          ALICIA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? WHAT'S BEEN SAID, UH, NO, MA'AM THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, VERY EXCITED TO COME TO ADDISON. 
          WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT LOCATION. 
          LET'S SEE QUESTIONS FOR ALICIA. 
          I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO HOW, HOW MANY BISCUITS CAN YOU POSSIBLY SELL IN FRONT OF PROFIT? UH, YOU WOULD BE QUITE SURPRISED AT THE NUMBER OF BISCUITS THAT COME OUT OF THE DOOR, BUT, UM, I'M ORIGINALLY FROM TENNESSEE. 
          AND WHEN I FIRST MET, UH, JANIE, BURQUETTE THE OWNER AND FOUNDER OF THE BISCUIT BAR, UM, WHO IS NOT AVAILABLE ON THIS CALL TODAY BECAUSE HER SON JUST HAD TO HAVE THE SURGERY YESTERDAY. 
          UM, I HAD TO TELL HER I WAS FLOORED BECAUSE IT IS LITERALLY THE BEST BISCUIT I'VE EVER HAD. 
          AND I COME FROM LIKE THE HOME OF BISCUITS AND MY ENTIRE LIFE. 
          IT'S PERFECT. 
          SO YOU'LL UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. 
          A BISCUIT BURGER, A BISCUIT, BLT, CHICKEN BISCUIT, CHICKEN, GRAVY, SAUSAGE, EVERYTHING PILED ON A BISCUIT. 
          AND THE TATER TOTS ARE THE BEST TATER TOTS HANDS DOWN IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, JUST KIND OF CURIOUS, ARE YOU GOING, YOU'RE ON TAP. 
          ARE YOU GOING TO, UH, FOCUS ON SOME, OUR LOCAL ADDISON CARROLLTON, FARMERS, BRANCH BREWERIES? ARE YOU GONNA BE IMPORTING CORES? NO, THERE'S A VARIETY. 
          THERE'S A VARIETY OF THE BEERS ON TAP. 
          A LOT OF LOCAL BREWERIES AS WELL. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE COCKTAILS ON TAP AS WELL. 
          LIKE, UH, BRUNCH PUNCH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, IF NOT GOING WELL. 
          UM, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, GOING TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO STAY CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          HEY, JOHN WANTS YOU TO TAKE THIS ON. 
          DON'T DELIVER ON YOUR OTHER ONE. 
          I FORGOT TO UNMUTE MYSELF, 
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BUT I, UH, WE'RE STILL, WE APPROVED CASE ONE EIGHT TWO TO SET UP THE BISCUIT BAR WITH THE, UH, STIPULATIONS THAT THE APP CAN, SHALL NOT USE ANY TERMS OF OR GRAPHIC DEPICTIONS THAT RELATE TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN ANY EXTERIOR SIGNAGE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FULL BUSINESS, STAIN THE BISCUIT BAR, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. 
          OPPOSED. 
          SAME SIGN MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY, AND SOLUTIA YOU WENT FORWARD TO THE BISCUITS. 
          THANK YOU ALL YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING. 
          [7.  PUBLIC HEARING Case 1825-SUP/ Dutch Bros Coffee. Public hearing, discussion, and take action on a recommendation regarding an ordinance changing the zoning on property located at 14310 Marsh Lane, which property is currently zoned Planned Development (PD) through Ordinance 007-034, as amended by ordinances O13-026, O16-017, O16-018, and O19-06, by approving a Special Use Permit for a new restaurant with drive-thru only service.]
OUR NEXT CASE IS CASE 1825 AS SHE PAID DUTCH BROTHERS PUBLIC HEARING SESSION AND TAKE ACTION ON A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING INFORMANTS CHANGING THE ZONING ON PROPERTY AT 14 THREE ONE OH MARCH LANE, WHICH FOR ME IS CURRENT REASON FOR IN DEVELOPMENT FOR ORDINANCE ZERO SEVEN DASH ZERO 44 AS AN ORDINANCE 13 DASH ZERO TWO SIX, UM, 16 DASH ONE SEVEN AND 16 DASH ZERO ONE EIGHT AND 19 DASHES OF SIX BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR NEW RESTAURANT WHO THRIVE THROUGH POLICE SERVICE. 
          CAN WE HAVE THE STAFF REPORT PLEASE? OKAY. 
          THIS REQUEST IS FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 43 ONE ZERO MARSHALING, WHICH IS CURRENTLY A VACANT SITE WITHIN THE BROOKHAVEN VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER. 
          UH, THE CENTER IS ACTUALLY BLOCK OF TWO 11 OF THE VITRUVIAN PARK DEVELOPMENT, AND THIS, UH, PAD SITE WAS INCLUDED AS A POTENTIAL DRIVE-THROUGH TENANT WITHIN THE PDS CONCEPT PLAN. 
          UM, THE PD ORDINANCE ALLOWS RESTAURANTS WITH THE DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITIES THROUGH APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE PERMIT, SPECIFICALLY LIMITED TO THIS BLOCK, UM, OF THE ENTIRE VITRUVIAN PARK. 
          UH, DUTCH BROTHERS IS REQUESTING A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT WITHOUT ALCOHOL SERVICE, UH, TO FULLY DEVELOP THIS PAD SITE WITH A DRIVE-THROUGH CONSISTING OF A 950 SQUARE FOOT COFFEE SHOP, WHICH WILL SOLELY BE USED FOR KITCHEN AND ORDER INTAKE, UH, AND A DOUBLE, UM, A DOUBLE DRIVE THROUGH LANE B, UM, APPLICANT WHILE KNOWN FOR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ONLY, UH, AND IS CURRENTLY PROPOSING DRIVE-THROUGH SERVICE ONLY. 
          UH, THEY HAVE INCLUDED THE 336 SQUARE FOOT COVERED, UH, PATIO AREA THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE WALK-UP ORDER WINDOW, UH, AS A POTENTIAL SEATING AREA, BUT THAT IT'S SO SMALL. 
          IT WOULD REALLY JUST HOLD, UM, TWO, FOUR TOP FOUR TOP TABLES, AND THAT IS INDICATED ON THE PLANS. 
          SO TECHNICALLY THE TOTAL SUP AREA IS 1,286 SQUARE FEET. 
          UH, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT COM UH, COMPLIES WITH THE REST OF THE PD REQUIREMENTS. 
          IT EXCEEDS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND IT MEETS THE TOWN'S LANDSCAPE STANDARDS. 
          THE STREETSCAPES FOR, UH, THIS PROPERTY, UM, WERE ALREADY DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE OVERALL SHOPPING CENTER REDEVELOPMENT, AND THEY CURRENTLY COMPLY WITH THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, A FULL TIA WAS REQUIRED AT THE TIME OF VITRUVIAN PARK CAME FORWARD WITH THE REZONING, UH, INITIALLY, UH, BUT GIVEN THE SCOPE OF WORK, THE TOWN'S CONSULTANT ENGINEER REQUIRED A, UM, THE APPLICANT TO PERFORM A FOCUS TIA, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO DETERMINE TRIP GENERATION AND TRIP DISTRIBUTION IN AN EFFORT TO, UM, ANTICIPATE SITE VOLUME, BUT FOR THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY AND THE EXISTING, UH, SHARED ACCESS DRIVEWAY, THE FOCUS TIA DETERMINED THAT ANTICIPATED TRIPS GENERATED BY THE DRIVE-THROUGH IN THE CONTEXT OF THE FULL BUILD-OUT, UH, DID NOT WARRANT A DECELERATION LANE FOR THE EXISTING OR THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAYS. 
          AND THIS REPORT WAS REVIEWED, ANALYZED AND APPROVED BY OUR, UH, CONSULTANT ENGINEER, UM, TRAFFIC ENGINEER. 
          UM, SINCE THERE'S NO ALCOHOL SERVICE HERE, STAFF SIMPLY RECOMMENDS, UH, APPROVAL WITHOUT CONDITIONS. 
          UM, HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. 
          SO AUGUST, SINCE YOU SAID THEY'VE ALREADY OUTLINED, DOES THAT MEET THEIR POTENTIAL OF MOVING THE DRIVE, THE DISCUSS THE OTHER DAY TO THE NORTH OF THAT VACANT LOT? I'M SORRY, COULD 
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YOU, COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? I THINK MY CONNECTION IS BREAKING UP. 
          YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE, THE DRIVES AND ALL THAT ALREADY BEING APPROVED IN THE PRIOR, UH, PLANS, UH, AM YESTERDAY, WE TALKED ABOUT MOVING THE DRIVEWAY ON, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT VACANT LOT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF IT, IS THAT MEAN THAT CAN'T BE DONE? THE DRIVEWAYS, UM, WERE APPROVED AS PART OF THE PD, UH, FOR THE CENTER. 
          UM, I THINK IF YOU WANT TO POTENTIALLY MANIPULATE THE INTERIOR OF THE SITE, YOU COULD REQUEST OR MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF, OF, UH, OF THE APPROVAL, BUT THE ACTUAL DRIVEWAYS FROM MARSH LANE, UM, WOULD NOT BE A PART OF THIS. 
          UM, I DON'T BELIEVE, OH, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, THEY SHOULD BE BECAUSE THEY HAD SENT CAN A PICTURE OF ANOTHER LOCATION. 
          SO IT'S VERY MUCH LIKE THE, THE, THE MARSH. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD THINK. 
          AND SO I GUESS I THINK SOME OF DENISE'S QUESTIONS MAY BE ANSWERED IF WE, ONCE THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS, UH, BASED ON THE SITUATION YOU CAN. 
          YES. 
          AND I BELIEVE ERIC SHOULD BE ON THE LINE, BUT WE WILL MAKE TWO QUESTIONS FOR THE ADVOCATES, ERIC. 
          UM, WHEN DO YOU ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF SLOS SO THAT WE CAN GET A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE? ERIC? I WAS, I WAS MUTED. 
          UM, SO HI, MY NAME IS ERIC NUNNALLY I'M WITH TNS ARCHITECTS. 
          I AM THE ARCHITECT ON THE, FOR THE PROJECT AND ON OUR, ON OUR CALL. 
          I HAVE, UH, AUSTIN CARR, UH, WITH DUNAWAY ASSOCIATES. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAVE JEFFREY BENNETT, MANDY HURST, AND TONY SCARDINO, UH, FROM DUTCH BROS. 
          AND WE HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, REPRESENTATIVES, CHRIS WILLIAMS AND ROB ST. 
          JOHN, UM, AUSTIN, CAN YOU ADDRESS, UM, THE TRAFFIC QUESTION PLEASE? SURE. 
          I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO MY BEST. 
          UH, WE HAD OUR, OUR SENIOR TRAFFIC ENGINEER DAWN SAYS THE, UH, PERFORM THE, THE REQUESTED, UH, FOCUS, TIA, UM, LOOKING AT BOTH TRIP GENERATION AND TRIP DISTRIBUTION, UH, FROM SPRING VALLEY FROM MARSHALL LANE. 
          AND THE CONCLUSION WAS, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOKING AT THIS FROM A, A CITY PERSPECTIVE IN, IN TERMS OF, OF QUEUING  DETERMINED. 
          WE DIDN'T NEED THAT DIESEL LANE. 
          AND IN TERMS OF ON SITE, UH, OPERATIONAL, UM, EXPERIENCE, UH, DUTCH BROS HAS WORK PLANS, UH, THAT THEY GO THROUGH WITH EVERY SHIFT. 
          AND I THINK MINDY COULD PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TO THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT BEING A DRIVE-THROUGH OPERATION, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY DON'T WANT TO SACRIFICE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO, UH, THEY HAVE GOALS TO, TO GET FOLKS THROUGH HERE. 
          SO THAT QUEUING, UH, IS NOT AN ISSUE. 
          SO I GUESS IT, IT MIGHT HELP. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UM, HAVE THAT PDF OPEN THAT YOU SENT THE CAM, BUT AS I MENTIONED IT VERY MUCH, WHAT'S LABELED HERE ON THIS PICTURE IS DEMERY STREET COULD BE MARSH AND THE STREET UP TO THE NORTH, UH, COULD BE SPRING VALLEY. 
          AND IN MY QUESTION IS, ARE YOU PLANNING TO HANDLE THE TRAFFIC IN MUCH THE SAME WAY THAT'S ON YOUR PDF, WHICH BASICALLY IS ANYBODY ENTERING FROM MARS, EITHER GOING NORTH OR SOUTH ENTERING THE SHOPPING CENTER WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TURN INTO YOUR PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY THAT FIRST, UM, UH, AVAILABLE SPOT, THEY ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE DOWN THE PARKING LOT, A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE THE BLUE CARS ARE, THE DOUBLE LINES, OR THEY CAN COME IN FROM SPRING VALLEY AND ALSO GET INTO WHERE IT'S LABELED  ON THIS PDF. 
          BASICALLY. 
          YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYBODY ENTER IN THROUGH DBT C3, UM, ON THE PLAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE PROPOSED FOR THIS REQUEST. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? BECAUSE 
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THE ATTACHMENT THAT KEN SENT TO D TO WHAT BB, WHATEVER YOUR REPORT NOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A FEE WITH A 10 CENT AND YOU GOT TO KIND OF GO, GOT TO GO THROUGH IT. 
          YOU GOT TO GO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM. 
          YOU GOT THERE'S A BUNCH OF, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNS. 
          THERE'S SOME NARRATIVE IT'S TO KEEP ON GOING TO THE BOTTOM. 
          AND YOU'RE GOING TO RUN A THING CALLED FINDINGS PLAN. 
          IT'S CALLED OPENING DAY STACKING PLAN, BUT I WOULD LOOK FURTHER DOWN. 
          OKAY. 
          CAUSE I COULDN'T SEE STREET NAMES ON THE ONE I WAS LOOKING AT. 
          SO THAT'S, TO ME IT'S NOT THE SAME LAYOUT THAT THEY HAVE FOR THE ADDISON SITE. 
          ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT THE SITUATION HERE. 
          AS FAR AS AGAIN, THE STREET THEY'RE RUNNING NORTH SOUTH WOULD BE MARSH AND STREET WEST WOULD BE SPRING VALLEY. 
          AND THEY HAVE EVERYBODY COMING IN THROUGH THAT DBT C2, WHICH BASICALLY, AND AGAIN, THIS LOOKS ALMOST EVEN LIKE THE SHOPPING CENTER THAT'S THERE. 
          UM, THEY COME IN AND JUST QUEUE UP IN THE, IN THE PARKING LOT AND THE NOBODY IS LAUGHING TO ENTER INTO THE DRIVE-THROUGH OFF OF MARSH DIRECTLY. 
          YOU'VE GOT TO KIND OF WIND THROUGH THE PARKING LOT OR COME INTO THE SPRING VALLEY. 
          SO I'M JUST TRYING TO VERIFY, THIS IS THE SAME PLAN THEY HAVE FOR THE ADDISON'S LOCATION. 
          TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE WERE ABLE TO TURN RIGHT AND THEN RIGHT. 
          TO GET RIGHT INTO THEIR THING AND NOT GO TO THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROJECT. 
          I MEAN, THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE THE SAME LAYOUT THAT THAT IS NOT THE SAME LAYOUT, BUT WE CAN, DUTCH ROSE WOULD PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TOGETHER, UH, FOR, FOR THE ADDISON OPERATION, JUST THAT YOU HAVE A POINT OF REFERENCE OF WHAT OUR CONCERN IS. 
          ONE, NOT HAVING A TURN LANE THERE, LARGE LANES OF SUPER HEAVILY TRAFFICKED ROAD. 
          AND WE HAVE ONE OF YOUR COMPETITORS ON ANOTHER HARD CORNER AND IT HAS BEEN A PROBLEM SINCE THEY PUT IT IN. 
          AND WE WOULD LIKE TO AVOID THAT AGAIN. 
          HI, MY NAME'S MANDY AND I WORK FOR A DUTCH BROS COFFEE HEADQUARTERS IN GRANTS PASS OREGON. 
          UM, FIRST I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK AND TELLING US WHAT YOUR EXPECTATIONS ARE UPFRONT. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TRAFFIC SPECIALIST THAT WORKS ON OUR GRAND OPENING TRAFFIC PLANS, AND SHE WOULD ACTUALLY CONTACT THE APPROPRIATE PERSON WITH THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR GUYS'S REGULATIONS ARE BEFORE WE DRAW SOMETHING UP AND WE WILL SUBMIT THAT FOR APPROVAL. 
          SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU GUYS ARE JUST NEEDED AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WOULD PROVIDE AT THAT POINT IN TIME. 
          UM, SO WE DON'T NORMALLY DESIGN THEM BEFORE THESE MEETINGS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GET HER INVOLVED THIS EARLY, IF I NEED TO. 
          UM, JUST SO THAT YOU GUYS ARE AWARE TOO, UM, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE OUR TRAFFIC TO BE AS HEAVY AFTER OUR GRAND OPENING. 
          UM, AND THAT WHEN WE DO OUR GRAND OPENINGS, UM, WE WILL DEVELOP A TRAFFIC PLAN SUCH AS THIS. 
          BUT, UM, I ALSO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DON'T HAVE SPEAKER BOXES THAT PEOPLE ORDER FROM, WE HAVE MULTIPLE RUNNERS, PEOPLE THAT COME OUT TO YOUR VEHICLE AND TAKE YOUR ORDER. 
          SO THERE'S MULTIPLE OCCASIONS WHERE PEOPLE WILL ACTUALLY RECEIVE THEIR DRINK BEFORE THEY EVEN GET TO THE DRIVE-THROUGH WINDOW AND HAVE THAT ONE-ON-ONE PERSONAL INTERACTION. 
          SO THAT MIGHT HELP EASE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT YOU'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO GET MY TRAFFIC PERSON. 
          UM, I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO HER TONIGHT, BUT I CAN GET HER ON THE LINE AND WE CAN GET SOMETHING GOING FOR YOU GUYS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          I GUESS, MANDY, UM, I THINK OUR CONCERN IS GOING TO BE THAT WE HOPE YOU HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS AND THAT IT WILL BE VERY BUSY. 
          AND IF, IF YOU'RE LOOKING, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, UM, UH, WHAT'S CALLED THE OVERALL SIDE PLAN, UM, IF YOU TURN EITHER GOING NORTH AND SOUTH OFF OF MARSH LANE, AND ALL YOU DO IS TAKE ON ANOTHER HARD RIGHT IN, INTO YOUR FACILITY. 
          AND IT WOULDN'T TAKE VERY MANY CARS TO BACK UP INTO MARSH. 
          UM, AND, AND WE STAYED IN THIS AGAIN, DENISE MENTIONED WHEN YOUR COMPETITORS ON, AT MIDWAY, UM, HERE IN EDISON, BUT THERE'S EVEN A WORST ONE DOWN. 
          IT'S NOT IN ADDISON, BUT IT'S IN DALLAS. 
          UM, ALONG INWOOD, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER COMPETITOR OF YOURS AND THEY BACK UP ON INWOOD AND THEY HAVE EVEN MORE, UH, CUING SPACE HERE. 
          THEN, THEN IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS GOT, SO IF YOU ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL, THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC BACKING UP ON MARSH, FISCALLY NORTH. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE A GOOD BACKUP COMING SOUTH AS PEOPLE WAIT TO TRY TO JUMP IN. 
          SO OUR CONCERN IS THAT I WOULD MUCH PREFER TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE YOU HAD SENT TO US IN PDF WHERE IT'S COMING IN OFF OF MARSH. 
          IT'S ALMOST A NON-NEGOTIABLE EXCEPT FOR GETTING INTO 
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THE SHOPPING CENTER. 
          AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK YOUR WAY INTO ANOTHER ENTRANCE TO YOUR FACILITY AS OPPOSED TO BEING TURNED DIRECTLY INTO IT, WHICH IS WHAT THE CONCERN WAS. 
          I THINK, WELL, REAL QUICK, THERE THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITY TO THE ONE HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT ON INWOOD ROAD, PREP SCHOOL, HIGH SCHOOL, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, RIGHT THERE. 
          YOU HAVE THE SAME THING HERE WITH BUSH SCHOOL IN HILL. 
          SO I, I DO THINK TRAFFIC IS SOME OF A CONCERN JUST TO WATCH OUT FOR, BUT I THINK THAT'S ALMOST EVEN A BETTER EXAMPLE BECAUSE INWOOD ISN'T AS HEAVY A TRAFFIC STREET AS MIDWAY SLASH BELTLINE IS, BUT YET THERE'S A LOT OF SAME SIMILARITIES OF FACILITIES AROUND THERE AND THE TYPES OF PEOPLE THAT WILL BE COMING THERE. 
          PERFECT. 
          AND WELL, YEAH, I'M HAPPY TO GET HER TO DRAW SOMETHING UP AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT WE WILL WORK WITH YOU GUYS IN ANY WAY WE POSSIBLY CAN TO MITIGATE ANY ISSUE. 
          WE DO NOT GO TO DELAY APPROVAL. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT MAY BE, WE MAY BE IN A SITUATION CAN WE'RE UNTIL YOU GET THERE TRAFFIC PLAN. 
          I'M NOT CERTAIN WE CAN GO CONTINUE TO GO FORWARD. 
          I'D LIKE YOUR OPINION ON IT. 
          ONE THING I WOULD ADD TO THE DISCUSSION AND IT MAY BE SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF HOW MUCH STACKING ROOM IS, IS AVAILABLE ON SITE. 
          UM, SO LOOKING AT THE PLANS AND PRIOR TO THIS DISCUSSION OCCURRING, I, I DID SOME, SOME ROUGH MEASUREMENTS AND IT WOULD APPEAR THAT YOU COULD STACK AT LEAST 18 VEHICLES WITHIN THIS SITE WITHOUT OBSTRUCTING ACCESS TO OR FROM THE SITE. 
          AND, AND DEFINITELY WITHOUT HAVING ANYTHING STACKING ONTO THE MARSH LANE AT THIS LOCATION, THAT THAT'S A, THAT'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF STACKING. 
          GRANTED, IF YOU DO HAVE A, AN ACTIVE BUSINESS, IT CAN CERTAINLY PUSH THAT. 
          THE OTHER THING I WOULD SHARE IS THIS PROJECT IS REALLY DUE TO ITS SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE MINIMAL PARKING, UH, MUCH LESS THAN, THAN WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY PROVIDING. 
          I THINK THAT PROVIDES A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS THAT MAY NOT WISH TO WAIT IN THE DRIVE THROUGH LINE OR DUE TO STACKING ISSUES, UH, CANNOT WAIT IN THE DRIVE LINE TO PARK AND THEN WALK UP TO GET COFFEE. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING LIKE AN ISSUE THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          THIS IS A JEFF BENNETT, UH, WITH DUTCH BROS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO WORK, WORK IT OUT WITH THE, WITH THE LANDLORD, BUT I SEE AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERN, UM, AND TAKE MAYBE, MAYBE, UH, CREATE THE, A, AN ENTRY AND AN EXIT, UH, AWAY FROM, UH, MAR. 
          SO WE DON'T HAVE THE CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE, UH, COMING OFF OF MARS WOULD NOT HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THE PARKING A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT WORK, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS THAT IN MORE DETAIL AND REPRESENT THIS, HEY, JEFFREY, KEN BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT. 
          LIKE HOW MANY CARS CAN YOU STAT? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A DOUBLE DRIVE-THRU. 
          SO I TOOK THE STACK. 
          OUR TYPICAL STACK IS ABOUT 19 GENERALLY. 
          AND IN LOOKING AT THIS ONE THAT APPEARS, IT APPEARS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ABOUT 18 SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 19 AND 21 OR SO, BUT OUR TYPICAL JEFFREY THAT WOULD BE WITHOUT OBSTRUCTING ANY OF THE ADJACENT DRIVE AISLES. 
          RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          OR TYPICALLY FROM THE POINT OF, FROM THE BACKUP? WELL, OUR TYPICAL, UH, OUR SPACE ALLOCATION IS A BY 20. 
          AND SO IF YOU TAKE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE ENTRY TO THE DRIVE-THROUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE EXIT OR TO THE, EXCUSE ME, TO THE ORDER POINT, WHICH IS THE WINDOW ITSELF. 
          UM, TYPICALLY WE WILL HAVE 19 WITHOUT, WITHOUT HAVING THE CARS ON THERE DISAPPEARS. 
          IT'S LIKE, IT'S GOING TO BE 19 TO 21 FOR FOUR CARS, CAR STACK OF THIS LEFT. 
          OKAY. 
          IF NOT FOR ME, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          WE HAVE ANYONE TO SPEAK. 
          NO, MA'AM, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          I MAKE A MOTION THAT 
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WE APPROVE 1825, SUP UH, DUTCH BROTHERS COFFEE, UM, SUBJECT TO A, UM, AN APPROVED ENTRANCE AND EXIT PLAN BY THE TOWN. 
          AND, UH, JUST TO CONFIRM, UH, COMMISSIONER DE FRANCISCO, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR REALIGNMENTS OF, OF THE DRIVEWAYS WITH THAT AS A REQUIREMENT OR A POTENTIAL CONSIDERATION, OR WOULD A MITIGATION PLAN IF AN APPROPRIATE ONE COULD BE WORKED OUT, BE APPROPRIATE? I DON'T EVEN KNOW FOR ME, IF A MITIGATION PLAN IS NEEDED. 
          I, I THINK, UM, WHAT MANDY SAID WAS, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A, UM, A PLAN YET FOR THIS. 
          SO I JUST LIKE TO SEE IT. 
          I THINK IT'S AN ACCOUNT SPED TEACHERS TO AT LEAST SEE IT. 
          IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND? AND JUST TO CONFIRM BEFORE YOU'LL VOTE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH STAFF WORKING THROUGH WITH THE APPLICANT, OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION? UM, COULD USE SOME FEEDBACK ON, ON THAT POINT. 
          AND I THINK YOU'VE HEARD OUR CONCERNS AND I PERSONALLY AM QUITE CONFIDENT. 
          YOU CAN HANDLE THIS ON GROUND. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER COMMENTS BEFORE WE VOTE? SAY, OR SHOW YOUR HANDS? SORRY. 
          I'M SO USED TO SAY NOT OPPOSED. 
          SAME SIGN. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE, UM, ONE DISSENTING, SIX IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION CARRIES. 
          NO, I DIDN'T. 
          NO, I DIDN'T. 
          I JUST DON'T. 
          IT'S THE, VIDEO'S NOT ON, I'M SORRY. 
          I STAND CORRECTED. 
          IT CARRIED THE ANIMALS. 
          OH, WHERE MY VIDEO WENT. 
          OKAY. 
          OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS. 
          THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          GOOD NIGHT. 
          OUR 
          [8.  Discuss and take action on the 2020 Planning and Zoning Commission Annual Report.]
NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS SIN IS TO ASSESS AND TAKE ACTION ON THE 2020 PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IN YOUR REPORT HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED. 
          ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE? THIS IS NANCY. 
          COULD SOMEBODY HELP ME WITH THE IDEAS ON HOW TO GET BACK TO WHERE I CAN SEE EVERYBODY? ALL RIGHT, NANCY. 
          I AM. 
          ONE OF THE EXHIBITS IS STILL AT THE LAST HEARING. 
          THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ANNUAL REPORT THAT KEN HAS UP. 
          LET ME UNSHARE MY SCREEN. 
          HEY MAN. 
          DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. 
          THANK GOD. 
          WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT. 
          NOW. 
          I JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP, BUT  ERIC, MY SCREEN STILL SHOWING. 
          YES, YES, YES. 
          I CAN SEE YOUR KITCHEN NOW. 
          SEE YOUR KITCHEN REALLY? AND YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SCREEN SHARE. 
          THERE YOU GO, MAN. 
          THAT BELONG TO Y'ALL. 
          OKAY, HERE WE GO. 
          SORRY. 
          NOW, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE TO THE ANNUAL REPORT? AND WAIT A MINUTE. 
          LET ME GET MY NOTES. 
          I DON'T HAVE IT UP IN FRONT OF ME BIT. 
          OKAY. 
          PAGE TWO. 
          AND THE FIRST FULL PARAGRAPH, SHOULDN'T IT BE REFERENCING A 4% IMPROVEMENT. 
          SHOULDN'T IT READ FROM 2019? NOT 2020. 
          YES. 
          THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT. 
          GOOD CATCH 
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NANCY. 
          YAY. 
          I READ THE SEND THREE TIMES AND YOU CAN SEE THAT. 
          DO YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU MY REALLY PICKY PICKY ONE? OKAY. 
          ON PAGE TWO, ADAM WINE UP THERE. 
          OH, THAT'S ON THE MINUTES. 
          NEVERMIND. 
          I DIDN'T EVEN BRING THAT ONE UP. 
          NEVERMIND. 
          OTHER ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? NO, I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE CAM PLAIN ON THE CONCLUSIONS. 
          HOW, HOW ARE YOU ACTUALLY GOING TO GET THOSE TWO DONE? THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. 
          WHAT I WOULD SHARE AND IT REALLY GOES BEYOND THAT. 
          SO IN MY ROLE, UH, I'VE BEEN HERE A MONTH. 
          I'M STILL GETTING USED TO THE TOWNS, PAUL, AND WE HAVE SOME, SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE, UH, ON MY PLATE THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO START ADVANCING SOME LARGE PROJECTS THAT, THAT, THAT IMPACT THE COMMISSION AS WELL. 
          WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO WITH THIS GROUP IS PREPARE A WORK PLAN THAT THAT WILL ALSO APPLY TO MY STAFF, BUT WE'LL START TO REFLECT AND, AND, AND REFLECT, UH, SOME OF THE GOALS AND PRIORITIES THAT THE COMMISSION HAS. 
          SO I WILL BE VISITING WITH YOU, UH, AT SOME FUTURE MEETINGS AND, AND WE'LL PRESENT SOME, SOME DRAFT ITEMS FOR, UH, TO ADD TO OUR WORK PLAN. 
          AND WE WANT TO GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU AS WELL FOR ITEMS THAT WE MAY NOT BE TARGETING, OR WE MAY NOT SEE THAT THAT ARE ISSUES THAT Y'ALL WOULD LIKE US TO FOCUS ON AS WELL. 
          JUST ON THE FIRST ONE, YOU'RE SAYING THE SIGNAGE, UH, USER GRABBING ADDICTIONS, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES, THAT'S KIND OF SPECIFIC. 
          WHEREAS THERE MAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REDOING THE WHOLE IDC THING, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SIGNAGE ISSUE REALLY A BIG PART OF, OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO COME OUT WITH, SO THAT ACTUALLY MAY GET TAKEN CARE OF. 
          SO MAYBE INSTEAD OF SAYING THE ALCOHOL BEVERAGE THING, IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT GOING THROUGH AND REVIEWING AND ADOPTING, YOU KNOW, THE IDC STANDARDS ONCE THEY BECOME AVAILABLE OR SOMETHING. 
          OKAY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YES. 
          THAT, THAT PROJECT SPECIFICALLY THE, THE UPDATE OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, I'LL, I'LL BE BRINGING IN AN ITEM FOR THE CITY COUNCIL NEXT MONTH TO, TO REINITIATE THAT PROCESS. 
          AND REALLY OUR GOAL WITH THAT MOVING FORWARD IS TO HAVE SOMETHING, UH, READY TO ADOPT AND IN EARLY 20, 22, SO THAT WE'LL, WE'LL PICK UP AGAIN HERE SOON. 
          AND DID Y'ALL HAVE ANY FEEDBACK OR SPECIFIC CONCERNS RELATED TO THE, UM, UH, COMMISSION PROCEDURES AS FAR AS ONLINE OR IN PERSON STILL? UH, NO. 
          I BELIEVE ONE OF THE, THE SECOND ITEM, UH, THAT'S REFERENCED IN THE ANNUAL REPORT. 
          AND THIS WAS, THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION, UH, PROVIDED BY MS. WHEELER, UH, WAS, WAS RELATED TO, UH, COMMISSION PROCEDURES. 
          I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WITH WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'D BE A GOOD ITEM FOR A FEATURE AGENDA. 
          THEN ANY OTHER FEEDBACK OR ITEMS STAFF NEEDS TO ADDRESS ON THE ANNUAL REPORT? IF NOT, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL REPORT? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          AS CORRECTED ON FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND MOTION CARRIES. 
          UM, AND 
          [9.  Discuss whether the Planning and Zoning Commission prefers to continue holding meetings virtually or return to in person meetings.]
THEN I THINK THE OTHER THING ON THE AGENDA IS DISCUSSION ON WHETHER FIGHTING ANXIETY PREFERS TO CONTINUE TO HELP MEETINGS VIRTUALLY OR RETURN TO IN-PERSON MEETINGS. 
          SO NOW WE HAD SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. 
          UM, WHEN SOMEONE LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT TOPIC, I WAS THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE MEETINGS LIKE THIS WITH THE TECHNOLOGY PROBLEMS, THEN WE PROBABLY SHOULD MEET IN PERSON. 
          IF WE CAN FIX THE TECHNOLOGY, THEN I'M GOOD WITH, I'M GOOD DOING EITHER ONE, YOU CAN MEET SOME PEOPLE IN PERSON AND SOME PEOPLE VIRTUALLY, UH, ORDINARILY THAT REQUIRES A FOUR ON BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW THE GOVERNOR HAS THAT'S ONE OF THE PORTIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT THAT THE GOVERNOR IS SUSPENDED. 
          SO YOU COULD ACTUALLY HAVE LESS THAN A FOUR ON PHYSICALLY PRESENT AND THEN HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE VISIBLE BY ZOO AT THE LOCATION WHERE YOU'RE PHYSICALLY PRESENT. 
          YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE THEIR CHOICE PRIOR TO THE DAY OR SOMETHING. 
          YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCEDURES 
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ARE, I THINK FROM A TECHNOLOGY STANDPOINT, PROBABLY PRIOR TO THE DAY WOULD BE HELPFUL TO CITY STAFF AND GET THINGS SET UP. 
          BUT, UH, NO, YOU WOULD POST IT STILL AS A VIDEO MEETING. 
          UH, BUT YOU HAD JUST NOTED THE POSTING THAT YOU HAD A PHYSICAL LOCATION WHERE MEMBERS WILL PRESENT. 
          AND WHAT I WOULD SHARE IS I CAN GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. 
          WHAT I WOULD SHARE IS WE ANTICIPATE HAVING A, A, A PRETTY LIGHT AGENDA NEXT MONTH. 
          UM, SO IT MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO, UH, IF THERE'S CONCERN THAT, THAT PERHAPS NOT ENOUGH FOLKS HAVE BEEN VACCINATED OR FULLY VACCINATED, UH, PERHAPS ONE MORE VIRTUAL MEETING. 
          AND THEN, UH, IN MAY, AS WE, AS WE GET READY TO MEET, UH, THAT MAY BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MAKE THE TRANSITION. 
          UM, THE ONE APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE FOR NEXT MONTH IS, IS WE'LL PROBABLY BE, UH, OF LIMITED INTEREST AND WHO WILL COMMUNICATE TO US WHEN THE GOVERNOR'S RULES CHANGE. 
          THAT WOULD BE ME. 
          I JUST DON'T HAVE TIME TO ALL HIS RULES WHEN THEY COME OUT. 
          THAT'S ALL I UNDERSTAND. 
          THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE CAN, WHAT A YEAR'S WORTH OF MEETINGS NOW VIA ZOOM. 
          AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD IN THE WORLD TECHNOLOGY. 
          UM, BUT IN A YEAR IT WAS BOUND TO HAPPEN AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON HOW WE WANT TO PROCEED THERE? SOMEONE DON'T NO, THAT WE NEED TO EMOTE JUST THE PROCEDURAL THING IS THAT IT ROTATE IT. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU DON'T NEED A MOTION NECESSARILY. 
          IT'S JUST INSTRUCTION TO STAFF ON HOW YOU WISH TO PROCEED. 
          I GUESS MY, MY ONLY COMMENT IS WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO DO. 
          SO IF IT IS MAY WHERE WE TRY TO GET BACK IN PERSON AGAIN, I, I STILL THINK OUT OF RESPECT FOR EVERYONE, WE SHOULD TRY TO HAVE A, UM, AN ONLINE OPTION AS WELL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL THEN STAFF, THAT IS YOUR DIRECTION. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE ON. 
          AND IF WE HAVE A FACE-TO-FACE STARTING IN MAY, I THINK IN APRIL, WE'LL DO, UM, VIRTUAL, AND THEN IN MAY, WE CAN HAVE BOTH OPTIONS AVAILABLE AND WE CAN, WE CAN ALSO, WE CAN POST THIS ON THE AGENDA IN APRIL AGAIN, TOO. 
          AND UNLESS SOMETHING UNFORESEEN HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, IT'S SPRING BREAK AND WE HAVE A MAJOR SPIKE AND WE NEED TO HUNKER DOWN AGAIN. 
          I GUESS WE'LL HUNKER DOWN AGAIN. 
          DON'T JINX IT. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY IS IT NEEDS TO BE CONDUCTED. 
          I HOPE NOT. 
          THANKS FOR A VERY GOOD MEETING. 
          WE'LL SEE.
* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.