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UM, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD FIRST JUST KICK OFF BY SAYING, WELL, UNLESS YOU ALREADY HAVE CAN, UM, HOW, HOW FORMAL INFORMAL DO YOU WANT THIS MEETING TO BE? DO YOU WANT TO JUST WALK THROUGH THE AGENDA? DO YOU WANT TO JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION? DO YOU WANT US TO KIND OF FORMALLY TALK ABOUT EACH ITEM AND THEN IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR YOU, YOU TELL US WHAT YOU WANT.I'LL STEP IN HERE BECAUSE I GUESS WE HAVE A NEW MEMBER AND I WANT TO SAY WELCOME.
AND SO IF YOU WOULD JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO MEET YOU IN PERSON, SO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE OF THE OTHERS, BUT I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOU DID THAT FOR A MINUTE.
UM, I HAVE LIVED IN ADDISON SINCE ABOUT, I'M GOING TO THINK ABOUT THIS LATE 1999.
I USED TO LIVE IN WATERFORD COURT APARTMENTS, AND THEN I BOUGHT A HOUSE ON CHATHAM COURT IN 2002.
I WORK IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.
SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH REAL ESTATE ZONING, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.
I'M TRYING TO THINK REALLY NOTHING TOO TERRIBLY EXCITING.
I KNOW SEVERAL ON THE COMMITTEE ALREADY, BOB AND I GO TO CHURCH TOGETHER.
CHRIS AND I HAVE A CHURCH, CHRIS AND I KNOW EACH OTHER THROUGH REAL ESTATE.
UM, HIS OFFICE, WE USED TO OFFICE AND WELL, PART OF HIS OFFICE USED TO BE IN MY BUILDING.
HE DIDN'T OFFICE THERE, BUT I'D SEEN HIM AT THE OFFICE OCCASIONALLY.
UM, NOT MARRIED, NO CHILDREN HAVE A FOUR LEGGED FOR ANYONE AT MY FEET CURRENTLY SNORING.
SO IF YOU HEAR THAT, I'M SORRY.
THAT'S PROBABLY ABOUT THE EXCITEMENT OF MY LIFE.
I USE THE GYM, THE DOWN'S GYM A LOT.
UM, PRIOR TO THIS, I DID SIT ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS GROUP.
UM, BUT WE ONLY HAD ONE LITTLE MEETING AND IT DIDN'T END UP GOING TO FORMAL THEN.
SO IT WASN'T THAT TIME CONSUMING AND IT LOOKED FORWARD TO SITTING WITH ALL OF YOU.
SO THANK YOU, RIGHT, MARCH 2ND, NANCE, UH, UH, DENISE, NANCY TOO.
AND I USED TO SHARE A TRAINER.
SO SHE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THE OATH AND SWEAR YOU IN.
UM, AND EILEEN, I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU WHENEVER WE HAVE A BREAK OR, YOU KNOW, MAYBE TOWARDS THE END BEFORE WE COMPLETELY ARE DONE.
UM, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL GO GET HER.
LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND SWEAR HER IN NOW.
SO WE'RE NOT DOING A SEPARATE, OKAY.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR AN INVITE FOR A ONE O'CLOCK BUT THAT'S OKAY.
YEAH, WE FIGURED AS WELL WHILE WE'RE STILL HERE, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND GET IT DONE.
LET ME RUN AND GET CARLA REAL QUICK.
SO GLAD YOU'RE PART OF THE GROUP.
HOW ARE YOU BEN? WE'RE BACK TO THE OFFICE PRETTY REGULARLY.
YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE HEADED THAT DIRECTION OR THE SAME I'M AT HOME TODAY THOUGH.
I JUST THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE EASIER TO DO HERE.
AND I WAS OUT ALL LAST WEEK SKIING.
SO I TOOK IT BACK EASY TODAY, BACK TO THE OFFICE INSTEAD OF RUSHING TO BE DOWNTOWN.
AND WHILE, UH, WHILE OLGA IS GETTING CARLA, I'LL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE MYSELF.
SO I I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH Y'ALL A LITTLE BIT LEANED INTO THE MEETING.
I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGING TO DO INTRODUCTIONS AND THE TIME OF THE PANDEMIC, BUT MY NAME'S KEN SCHMIDT.
I'M THE NEW DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, A VERY OPPORTUNITY, VERY HONORED TO SERVE THE ADDISON COMMUNITY AND VERY HAPPY TO JOIN THIS GROUP.
UH I'VE I'VE MENTIONED IT TO SOME OF Y'ALL THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLES IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I'M VERY HONORED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU AS YOU WORK THROUGH POLICY DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE OF ADDISON, UH, DO WANT TO THANK MY PREDECESSORS, UH, CHARLES GOLF, UH, PHYLLIS GERALD, WHO FILLED IN FOR CHARLES.
AND THEN OF COURSE THE EXISTING TEAM, UH, OLGA AND WILSON, UH, DID A GREAT JOB, UH, IN THE INTERIM PERIOD.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGE, UH, FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
AND COUPLED WITH THE PANDEMIC, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY BEEN A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING AND DYNAMIC TIME FOR THE COMMISSION.
UH, I KNOW WE HAVE A HEAVY AGENDA COMING UP FOR TOMORROW.
I DID NOT PLAN IT THAT WAY, BUT UH, VERY EXCITED TO SEE ALL THE NEW INVESTMENT AND A ADDISON.
AND, UH, IF THERE ARE ANYTHING THAT COMES UP AS FAR AS REFINEMENTS TO OUR PROCESS, HOW WE
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CAN BETTER COMMUNICATE THINGS TO THE COMMISSION, UM, WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON AS FAR AS KEY POLICY AREAS AND, UH, PLANNING WORK PLAN, UH, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME AND OLGA WE'RE HERE FOR YOU.I KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGING ROLE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE THIS SMOOTH AS A PROCESS FOR YOU.
SO THANK YOU ALL AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE COMING MONTH.
UM, DENISE, DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE TO OWN THE BOX? THAT WHAT IRMA SENT ME EARLIER? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I ASKED HER A QUESTION ABOUT IT AND SHE HASN'T REPLIED BACK TO ME YET, BUT, UH, HOW MY NAME IS WRITTEN ON HERE IS NOT HOW I SIGNED.
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT VIRTUALLY RIGHT NOW.
SO IF YOU'RE READY, GO AHEAD AND JUST, LET'S START WITH THE I, AND THEN, THEN PUT AT THE END WITH GOD.
DO I NEED TO BE DOING ANYTHING HERE OR ANYTHING OR JUST PREGNANT? JUST HAVE TO WATCH IT, DO IT.
YEAH, I, DENISE FANSLER, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I AM NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY PAID, OFFERED PROMISE TO PAY, CONTRIBUTE, OR PROMISE TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY OR KIND OF VALUE OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT FOR GIVING OR WITHHOLDING OF A VOTE TO THE ELECTION AT WHICH I WAS ELECTED DENISE A REWARD TO SECURE MY APPOINTMENT OR CONFIRMATION, WHICHEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
SO HELP ME, GOD, DENISE, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IS CALLED THE OATH OF OFFICE.
DO SOME OF THESE SWEARING, DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR AND I'M, I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE.
I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE.
WELL, THE TOWN OF ADDISON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER OF THE TOWN OF ADDISON PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONER FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WE'LL DO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY FOR SIR PROTECT AND DEFEND PRESERVED.
ONE MORE TIME PER SERVE, UM, PROTECT AND DEFEND, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF LAWS, THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.
UM, OH, THE UNITED STATES IN THIS STATE.
SORRY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? UNITED STATES AND OF THE STATE.
AND AT A LATER TIME, YOU'LL COME BY AND I'LL NOTARIZE THIS.
WE'LL GET YOU TO SIGN UP WITH YOUR RIGHT NUMBER NAME.
[1. Discussion regarding items on the agenda for the March 16th, 2021 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, including: Election of Chair Minutes from prior meeting Development Plan Approval request at 4120-4126 Belt Line Road, 14991-15015 Oak Street, and 4129-4147 Runyon Road (Addison Grove, Block A) Special Use Permit request at 5294 Belt Line Road (The Biscuit Bar) Rezoning and Special Use Permit request at 4525 Belt Line Road (Oak'd Handcrafted BBQ and Brewery) Development Plan Approval request at 17001 Addison Road (Trinity Christian Academy) Special Use Permit request at 14310 Marsh Lane (Dutch Bros Coffee) Draft 2020 Annual Report to the City Council Discuss Planning and Zoning Commission meeting procedures]
AS THE AGENDA IS CONCERNED, I THINK THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE PRETTY STANDARD.THE ONLY PLACE WHERE I'M GUESSING THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS WOULD BE ON ADDISON.
SO DO ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WANT ADDRESS FOR THAT? YEAH, I, I DO.
I LEAN, I HAVE, I HAVE QUESTIONS ACTUALLY ABOUT, UM, MAYBE ALL OF THEM, BUT MOST OF THEM IS ABOUT ADDISON GROVE.
I GUESS THE FIRST QUESTION IS HOW MANY, HOW MANY ADDITIONAL BUILD-OUTS ARE THERE IN ADDISON GROVE AFTER THIS IS COMPLETE? SO THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.
I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE.
UM, I DO NOT KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT QUESTION DOWN IF YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING.
AND WHEN, WHEN WOULD THAT QUESTION, DO YOU MEAN LIKE HOW MANY MORE PHASES THERE WILL BE? YES.
I THINK THAT WILL BE THAT THERE'S MORE BLOCKS OBVIOUSLY TO COME.
UH, SO THEY STARTED ON THE WEST SIDE WITH THE TOWNHOMES AND THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE GRADUALLY MOVING EAST.
SO THERE'S SEVERAL MORE BLOCKS.
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WE ULTIMATELY NEED TO VISIT WITH THE APPLICANT ON, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL, THEY'LL DICTATE THE TIMING OF THEIR PROJECT, BUT IF THEY TAKE IT DOWN BY BLOCK, THERE'S AT LEAST TWO MORE BLOCKS.
COMPLETE A BLOCK, ONE BLOCK B BLOCK B IS WHAT YOU SEE UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW AND APARTMENTS ARE COMPLETE.
IF, IF WE'RE JUST TALKING BLOCKS, I BELIEVE THEY GO UP TO BLOCK E OKAY.
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I HAVE A QUESTION ON JUST WHY, WHY ARE WE EVEN REVIEWING THIS AGAIN? W WHAT'S THE NEED AS PART OF THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WE HAVE TO APPROVE THE ACTUAL PLAN, THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UH, FOR EACH PHASE.SO, UM, THEY CAME FORWARD FOR BLOCK B AND THAT WAS APPROVED.
UM, SO NOW THEY'RE COMING FORWARD FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL BLOCK.
IF THEY HAD COME FORWARD WITH THE PLANS READY TO GO AT THE, UH, PD, UH, ZONING, WE COULD HAVE DONE IT THEN, BUT SINCE THEY DIDN'T, OUR ORDINANCES REQUIRE US TO APPROVE EACH INDIVIDUAL SET MOVING FORWARD.
SO REALLY THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE SOLD SO MUCH ON A PREVIOUS BLOCKS, OR IS IT JUST A PURE BLESSING OF THE NEXT LOCK? NO REQUIREMENT ON THE NORMAL.
YEAH, SO REALLY THE, THE INTENT OF THIS ACTION IS Y'ALL ARE CONFIRMING THAT WHAT THEY PROPOSE TO CONSTRUCT IS COMPLIANT WITH THE ZONING THAT WAS ADOPTED BACK IN 2016.
MY SECOND QUESTION, AND THIS IS ALL PROBABLY INFORMATION THAT OTHERS ON THE COMMISSION MAY HAVE, BUT I DON'T.
UH, SO, UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO THE NUMBER OF TOTAL PARKING PLACES THAT ARE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE BOTH IN A GARAGE, UM, MORE PUBLIC SHORT OF PARKING AND THEN THE ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGES OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE, AND THEN THE INDIVIDUAL PARKING ON THE STREET, UH, IN AND AROUND THOSE AREAS.
AND WHICH LEADS ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION, WHICH WOULD BE WHATEVER THE ANSWER TO THAT IS.
UM, W W WHAT IS SORT OF THE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC GONNA BE ALREADY IN A HORRIBLE TRAFFIC AREA OF BELTLINE AND MIDWAY, AND NOW SPILLING OVER BELTWAY.
SO, AND, AND I'M SURE THEY'VE DONE THE STUDY AND I'M SURE THE ANSWER IS THERE'S NO IMPACT.
AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT BEFORE I LOSE MY MIND TOMORROW, UH, WHEN THEY TELL US THAT, UH, UM, I'M NOT SURE ON THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON, UM, WITH REGARD TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT.
THAT'S THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REVIEWED AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL ZONING.
SO AT THIS TIME THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE WERE LOOKING AT.
UM, I, I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO, TO THE PREVIOUS ZONING AND GO BACK AND CHECK THAT TIA TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT WAS.
I WOULD THINK THAT WHATEVER THE RESULT WAS, IT WAS PROPOSED TO BE MITIGATED IN SOME SORT OF WAY, WHICH I SEE THE DECELERATION LANE, UH, WAS INSTALLED, UH, IN FRONT OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE OF THE MITIGATION EFFORTS FOR, FROM THE TIA STUDY, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE ACTUAL TRAFFIC BOB, AS I REMEMBER, IT WAS SEVEN CARS, UM, BELT WAY, THEY, I DON'T REMEMBER LINE OR MIDWAY.
UM, CAUSE I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS ABOUT WAY, BUT THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THEY WERE GOING TO MITIGATE THAT WAS PUTTING BOLLARDS AT THAT, UM, INTERNS.
AND AT THE ONLY WAY THAT THOSE WOULD BE USED WOULD BE BY EMERGENCY VEHICLES.
SO IT WOULD BE FOR POLICE AND FIRE ONLY, THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT ONTO BELT.
AND CHRIS, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT BETTER SINCE YOU WERE ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.
I MEAN, THAT WAS, I WAS ALREADY OFF COUNCIL WHEN THAT WAS VOTED ON, BUT, UM, YEAH, BUT LIKE THAT WAS, THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES WE HAD THAT PARKING STUDY DONE AND I DON'T THINK ANYBODY BELIEVED IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MAKE A CONNECTION BETWEEN EDISON GROVE AND BELTWAY AND, UM, I, YEAH, AND I, AND I GUESS REALLY THAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
IT'S LIKE, I GUESS WE COULD, ARE WE GOING TO REHASH ALL THOSE ISSUES? CAUSE I KNOW NO ONE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED WHAT WAS GOING ON THERE.
UM, BUT I GUESS AT THIS POINT, THE CONVERSATIONS ON TRAFFIC AND PARKING DOES IT REALLY MATTER.
AND THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE REALLY ALL CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE REZONING PROCESS.
SO RIGHT NOW, AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, WE'RE CONFIRMING THAT THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH THE ZONING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ULTIMATELY APPROVED.
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SOME FRUSTRATING ASPECTS OF THAT, BUT THEY ARE SIMPLY HAVING TO DEMONSTRATE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING THAT WAS ADOPTED.SO THE, THE ISSUE OF TRAFFIC AND HOW THEY'RE MITIGATING IT, THAT WAS ADDRESSED DURING THE ZONING REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, CAUSE WHEN I WAS OVER THERE YESTERDAY, UM, DIFFICULT SUNDAY, THERE WAS A LOT, A LONG LINE DRIVE INTO THAT COMPLEX.
UM, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO IS WAIT FOR THE LIGHT AT RUNYON TO TURN RED OR UP AT MIDWAY TO TURN RED FOR WHEN YOU TURN IN OR OUT.
UM, SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE COMPLIED WITH A STUDY DONE FIVE YEARS AGO, MY QUESTION TOMORROW, AND I GUESS IT'S BETTER TO BRING IT UP NOW IS WHAT OBLIGATIONS IS TOWNHOUSE TO THAT PLAN, SEE WHERE THEY'RE NOT STILL APPLICABLE AND THEN TO GO FORWARD WITH SOME REMEDIATION, IF REQUIRED AS FAR AS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC LIGHTS OR, OR OTHER THINGS.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT ON THE DEVELOPER, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT DOES FALL ON THE TOWN.
AND I'M SURE THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE CHANNELS BEING PROACTIVE IN THIS WHOLE THING.
SO THE OTHER THING, BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION, JUST THROW IN THE MIDWAY ROAD, UM, PROJECT THAT'S THAT IS STARTING, WHICH IS GONNA BE A NIGHTMARE.
UH, AND, BUT I REALIZED THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE TEMPORARY.
THE REST OF THAT STUFF IS ALL PERMANENT.
AND THE IDEA THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO, UH, RUBBER STAMP THIS TOMORROW NIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WAS APPROVED I'VE YEARS AGO WITH NO CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THE REALITY IS FIVE YEARS LATER, IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING THEN.
UH, JUST LET ME KNOW AND I'LL BE, I'LL BE SILENT TOMORROW, BUT IF THAT'S, UH, IF THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE DOING THAT I'D LOVE TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I JUST THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL PROBLEM EVERYWHERE.
SIR, WHAT I WOULD SHARE IS I THINK TOM BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT SO THAT THE DEVELOPER'S OBLIGATION TOMORROW IS TO CONFIRM THAT THERE THEY'RE MEETING THE REGULATIONS THAT WERE ADOPTED TO REGULATE DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SITE BACK IN 2016.
BUT ONCE AGAIN, THAT, THAT DOESN'T PREVENT THE TOWNS FROM DOING ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION AND ADDRESSING TRANSPORTATION, PLANNING NEEDS IN THAT AREA.
I THINK YOU ALL BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU DO DRIVE IN THAT AREA, IF IT'S A BUSIER TIME AND YOU'RE MAKING THAT LEFT TURN, THAT IS BETWEEN THE MIDWAY INTERSECTION AND THE RUNYON INTERSECTION, THERE IS SOME QUEUING ISSUES.
SO THE EASTBOUND TRAFFIC ON BELTWAY OFTENTIMES CAN BLOCK THAT LEFT TURN LANE IN THE ADDISON GROVE.
UH, THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT IS PROBABLY PRETTY ON, ON BELTLINE, CERTAINLY, BUT THERE'S ISSUES FROM A TRANSPORTATION PLANNING AND INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING STANDPOINT, BUT THE TOWN CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT OUTSIDE OF THIS PROCESS.
THE DEVELOPER'S OBLIGATION IS, IS TO COMPLY WITH THE REGULATIONS THAT AT THE TOWN DEVELOPED FROM THIS SITE.
SO CAN I ASK YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION? YES, SIR.
THERE'S THERE, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WE CAN, THAT THE TOWN USES TO DETERMINE TRAFFIC FLOW OTHER THAN THE COMPANY THAT WE USE? BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE USE THAT COMPANY, THERE'S NO, THE ANSWER THAT COMES BACK, THERE'S NO IMPACT TRAFFIC IN THE AREA.
IF IT'S ON IT'S ON BELTLINE, IF IT'S ON MIDWAY, DOESN'T REALLY MATTER OR THEY'RE THE ONLY OUTFIT IN TOWN OR CAN WE USE ANYBODY ELSE? I WOULDN'T HAVE TO VISIT WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM TO DISCUSS THAT IT'S MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATION FOR THEM, BUT THEY WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE SOME MORE CONTEXT ON THAT.
UH, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO CHANGE IT.
I THINK SOME COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT THE TOWN CAN DO TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED CERTAINLY IS IMPORTANT.
BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE CAN DO IS TO HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE ON NOT OPENING UP THOSE BOLLARDS AND MAKING THAT A THROUGH STREETS WHERE ALL THE TRAFFIC COMES TO BELTWAY AND THIS WALK WAS PROMISED TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADHERE TO THAT.
YEAH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY TYPICALLY COMMISSIONED BY THE TOWN OR BY THE DEVELOPER WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO GET A PROJECT APPROVED.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PROPOSING THE REZONING LIKE ADDISON GROVE WAS DID BACK IN 2016, THE OBLIGATION TO PERFORM THE TRAFFIC STUDY IS TYPICALLY THE DEVELOPER'S OBLIGATION.
I'VE WORKED FOR A DEVELOPER AND I WILL TELL YOU, THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OF WHAT THAT TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS.
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THEY CERTAINLY, THEY ARE THE, THE STAKEHOLDER, THEY ARE A STAKEHOLDER IN THAT.UM, IT IS PERFORMED BY A PROFESSIONAL, UH, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER.
AND THEN ON THE CITY SIDE, A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IS REVIEWING IT.
SO IT'S CERTAINLY, I WOULDN'T CHARACTERIZE IT AS A, JUST A, A RUBBER STAMP TYPE OF PROCESS IT'S REVIEWED BY, BY TRAFFIC ENGINEERS AND BOTH REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY.
AND, AND THERE, THERE TYPICALLY IS, UH, SOME BACK AND FORTH AND MODIFICATIONS THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT IT IS AN OBLIGATION TYPICALLY, AND IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT UNIQUE TO ADD US.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S TYPICAL AND ALL CITIES ACROSS THE METROPLEX THAT THE PERSON PROPOSE ENTITY PROPOSING DEVELOPMENT IS FUNDING AND PERFORMING THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDY, A CITY CAN BE PROACTIVE CERTAINLY AND DO THEIR OWN STUDY.
AND IF THAT'S THE TOWNS, SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN WANTS TO CONSIDER THAT ABSOLUTELY CAN BE DONE.
W WELL, THEIR REPORTS ARE, ARE UNBELIEVABLE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TH THERE'S JUST, YOU SCRATCH YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU GET FINISHED WITH IT AND SAY, REALLY, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CONCLUSION THAT THEY CAME UP WITH ON MINE.
WELL, I'M JUST TELLING YOU I'VE DONE DEVELOPMENT.
AND AS A DEVELOPER, YOU HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL IN WHAT THOSE REPORTS SAY.
AND ESPECIALLY IF THEY WANT TO REPEAT A CLIENT THERE, THERE IS SOME, YOU KNOW, CAVING ON THAT.
SO I PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE CITY TO DO THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT STUDIES AND THEN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW THEY VARY, BECAUSE THEN MY GUESS IS THEY'RE GOING TO VARY WIDELY, YOU KNOW, I, THIS THING BLEW UP BACK WHEN IT FIRST STARTED, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO LOST THEIR SEAT, DID IT, ALL OF THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S PARAMOUNT THE TOWN TO SHOW THEY'RE BEING PROACTIVE FOR THE RESIDENTS, OR THIS BECOMES A REAL PROBLEM, UM, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, BEING REACTIONARY ON IT.
SO OBVIOUSLY FOR TOMORROW, WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING.
WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT I THINK WE ALL COULD GO ON RECORD AS SUPPORTING SOMETHING FOR THE TOWN TO DO.
THE THING WE DID A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, ALMOST OFFER WAS, YOU KNOW, IT HAD THE RESIDENTS ALL UP IN ARMS ALSO BECAUSE THAT TRAFFIC STUDY WAS ALSO PRETTY MUCH RUBBER STAMP.
AND I'M SURE WE DID THE SAME THING ON YOUR POINT, EILEEN, AS FAR AS THE BOLLARDS, I'VE ENSURED THAT THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE WE TRIED TO GET THAT DONE HERE, FOLKS NORTH AND WERE TOLD CLEARLY PRETTY PLAINLY THAT THE ONLY PLACE THAT'S EVER BEEN DONE IN ESSENCE, THEY'RE AT BELTWAY AND THEY WILL NEVER DO IT AGAIN.
BUT I WAS ASSURED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T DO OURS BECAUSE THEY'D ALREADY DONE IT ABOUT BELTWAY MORE OR LESS SO, WELL, I AGREE WITH WAS THAT IN WHAT EILEEN SAID ABOUT JUST MAKING SURE WE HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE, BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WOULD WANT IS TO START COMPLAINING ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOWS AND THEN THEY, AND THEY COME BACK TO THE TOWN AND SAY, WELL, HEY, LET'S JUST OPEN UP THAT ROAD AND CUT THE CUT THROUGH TO BELTWAY.
W WE'LL HAVE MORE, WE'LL HAVE BETTER FLOW.
AND THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY THE LAST THING I WOULD WANT.
I PROMISE YOU THAT WAS IN THEIR MIND THE ENTIRE TIME.
AND WE'VE BEEN IN ONE REGARD, YOU DON'T HAVE THE FULL EFFECT OF WHAT THAT TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE LIKE GOING FORWARD BECAUSE FOR THE LAST YEAR, MOST PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STAYING HOME OR THEY'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WORKING INTERMITTENTLY FROM THEIR OFFICE AND FROM HOME OR DOING WHATEVER'S THERE.
SO WE'RE NOT GETTING THE FULL EFFECT OF ANYTHING RIGHT NOW, AND FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE, BUT IT'S NOT COMPLAINTS.
AND THE OTHER ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THERE IS SOME OF THAT IS YOU TURNING TO GET TO STARBUCKS SNUFFERS AND WHATEVER THE MEXICAN JOINT IS CALLED.
I MEAN, YOU DO GET A LOT OF THAT THERE.
SO I QUESTIONED MAYBE THE CITY NEEDS TO GO BACK AND PUT A NOTE.
AND JUST TO, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE DEVELOPER IS NOT PROPOSING TO CREATE A CONNECTION TO BELTWAY FOR VEHICLE TRAFFIC.
IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE USED TO BE BOLLARDS THERE.
A CONNECTION IS NOT BEING PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER, NOT AT THIS TIME.
AND I, I DO HAVE ONE OTHER COMMENT NOW THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT AND I APOLOGIZE I'M HAVING ISSUES WITH ONE DRIVE.
SO I'M NOT SURE IF, IF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TOMORROW COVERS THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHAT, WHAT WE'LL BE FACING.
UM, UH, W SORT OF FACING THE PARK THERE'S NEW UNITS.
I, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY KNOCKED DOWN THE WALL AND I CAN REMEMBER PART OF THAT APPROVAL REQUIRED SOME SORT OF FENCING IN BETWEEN THOSE UNITS AND THAT PARK, JUST SO WE STILL HAVE
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THE FEELING THAT, THAT THAT'S A PARK AND NOT, YOU KNOW, OWNED BY THOSE RESIDENTS.AND I, I HOPE THAT THEY FOLLOW THROUGH WITH THAT.
SO I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE THE PLANS, UM, BUT ON THE, WHEN YOU DO GET A CHANCE ON THE FIRST SHEET OF THE ADDISON GROWTH PLANS, THAT THERE'S A CALL OUT AT THE SOUTHEASTERN LIMIT OF THE, UH, PLANS THAT SAYS PROPOSED FENCE.
SO THERE'LL BE A, UH, ORNAMENTAL TYPE FENCE, UH, IN THE INTERIM, WHILE CONSTRUCTION IS UNDERWAY.
UH, THERE WILL BE A, A CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT HAS AN OPAQUE COVERING.
YOU CAN SEE SOME OF IT NOW THERE'S A THERE'S, IT WILL BE EXTENDED FURTHER TO THE EAST AS, UH, CONSTRUCTION CONTINUES.
AND CAN TO KIND OF ADDRESS SOME OF BOB'S QUESTIONS ORIGINALLY, AND MAYBE IT'S THE KIND OF PLANS THAT ARE BEING FILED WITH THE CITY, BUT ON THAT SECOND PAGE, YOU'LL SEE, THEY START DISCUSSING SQUARE FOOTAGES OF OPEN PARKING SPACES IN THAT, BUT NOT ACCOUNT I'M NORMALLY USED TO SEEING PARKING COUNT SOMEWHERE ON THESE PLANS.
SO THE PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR EACH UNIT IS TO ENCLOSE GARAGE SPACES.
SO THEY MEET THE PARKING REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
SO HOW MANY UNITS ARE IN HERE AGAIN? 30 THERE'S 33 17 OF THOSE ARE LIVE WORK UNITS, AND 16 ARE TOWNHOME UNITS.
SO WE'RE NOT, THIS BLOCK IS NOT GETTING ANY STREET PARKING, SO THEY, YOU CAN SEE ON, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EAST SIDE OF BLOCK, A, UH, ALONG, UH, OAK STREET, YOU SEE A, UM, A HANDFUL OF, UH, STREET PARKING SPACES.
AND THEN ON THE SOUTH SIDE WITH A BLOCK ALONG RUNYON, YOU SEE WHAT I WOULD CALL THE INTERIOR OF THIS BLOCK.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE EDGE OF THIS BLOCK.
I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE MORE LIKE OFF STREET SPACES, LIKE HEAD END TYPE OF SPACES.
IT WOULD BE ALL GARAGE PARKING, CORRECT.
BECAUSE I HAD NOTHING ELSE TO DO ON SATURDAY AFTERNOON AT THREE O'CLOCK.
THERE WERE OVER A HUNDRED CARS PARKED OUT IN ANYWHERE THAT THEY COULD PARK.
AND, AND HALF OF THOSE, UH, UNITS ARE EITHER NOT COMPLETE, NOT OCCUPIED ARE COMBINATION OF BOTH.
SO THE A HUNDRED, IN ADDITION TO THE TWO CAR GARAGE, IN ADDITION TO THE PARKING GARAGE IS A HELL OF A LOT OF SPACE, A WHOLE HECK OF A LOT OF CARS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, UH, AN ADDITIONAL THERE, NOT TO MENTION PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO COME VISIT AND DO ALL THAT OTHER SORT OF STUFF.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT WAS A BAD IDEA FIVE YEARS AGO, IT'S COMING HOME TO ROOST RIGHT NOW, AND IT'S EVEN WORSE WHEN YOU HAVE TO LIVE IT.
DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION, BOB, OTHER THAN THAT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK ON ADDISON GROVE? AND I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S A BIG CASE IN, IN A CHALLENGING PROJECT.
I JUST, I CAN ANOTHER COMMENT JUST, I, I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT BOB SAYING, CAUSE I LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND I FEEL THE SAME EXACT WAY, BUT LIKE AT THIS POINT, I MEAN, COULD WE PUT THE BRAKES ON IT? I MEAN, COULD WE SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT TO DO ANOTHER TRAFFIC STUDY BEFORE WE APPROVE, UM, YOU MOVING FORWARD WITH ANY ADDITIONAL UNITS AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS, THEY HAVE ZONING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF THEY SUBMIT PLANS THAT COMPLY WITH THAT ZONING, UH, THE TOWN SHOULD APPROVE THOSE PLANS.
BUT THE, THE, SO THAT IS HOW I WOULD ADDRESS THAT IS TAD OR, OR OLGA.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ON THAT? I AGREE WITH THAT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT, UH, I'LL VISIT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY ABOUT IT THIS AFTERNOON, BUT, UH, I THINK 10 IS ACCURATELY DESCRIBED TO THE PROCESS.
HEY, KEN, ONE CLARIFICATION REAL QUICK KIND OF SIDEBAR, BUT YOUR KIND OF ADDISON DO APARTMENT ANNUAL INSPECTIONS IS AS FAR AS LIKE INDIVIDUAL UNITS OR PROGRAM, IT'S COMMON IN A LOT OF PLACES.
I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER IF THEY REQUIRED THEM HERE OR NOT.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE HAVE A REGISTRATION PROGRAM.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE INSPECT INDIVIDUAL UNITS, BUT LET ME CONFIRM THAT.
CAUSE I, I KNOW WHAT BOB IS GETTING AT AND HIS POINTS AND I AGREE WITH HIM, BUT WHILE THIS IS ALL UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT GOING ON THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT FORCING PEOPLE TO PARK IN THOSE GARAGES.
SO THERE WAS AN IN FOR AN HOUR OR TWO PARKING
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OUT ON THE STREET, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING PROBLEM.BUT PART OF THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE MANAGED THROUGH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND KEEP IN MIND SOME OF THAT PARKING, UH, IS LIKELY CONSTRUCTION, UH, PARKING AS WELL.
YOU DO HAVE FOLKS, UH, WORKING OUT ONSITE, BUT OF COURSE NOT ALL OF IT.
YOU PROBABLY DO HAVE SOME, SOME FOLKS LIVE IN, IN THE MULTIFAMILY THAT ARE, UM, UH, TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE CURB, PARKING, ANY OTHER ADDISON GROVE, UH, QUESTIONS OR, OR FEEDBACK TRINITY CHRISTIAN.
I, I HAVE ONE MAJOR ONE AND THIS KIND OF GOES LONG.
ALSO I'LL HAVE THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE, UH, UM, THE OAK HANDCRAFTED BARBECUE.
UM, I WENT OVER THERE AND TCS UNFAIR, NOT TCU, TEXAS.
AND, UM, TO SEE WHERE THIS IS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IN THE BIG SOCCER FIELD THERE BEHIND THE STADIUM.
AND THERE'S A DRIVEWAY HAS GOT A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.
IF A LOT OF THOSE TREES ARE GONNA BE PULLED OUT, THEY'RE GONNA REMAIN IN THERE.
I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE WRONG PLACE.
IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FIGURE OUT, TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IT IS.
I MEAN, THE JUST EASE THE STADIUM.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S EAST OF THE STADIUM IS A BIG SOCCER FIELD AND ALSO THE BIG TENNIS COMPLEX THERE.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S WHERE THE BUILDING'S GOING TO GO, BUT I'M A LITTLE UNCLEAR, BUT REGARDLESS IT MAY HELP.
BUT THE SAME THING ALSO IS TRUE FOR THE OAK PAN CRAFT OF BARBECUE.
THERE ARE ALSO SOME TREES THERE THAT I THINK SOME REAL LARGE LIFEBOATS, IT COULD BE A JEOPARDY WONDERING IF ON BOTH OF THESE CASES, IF WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT THEY'RE KEEPING OR NOT.
CAUSE I COULDN'T TELL THEM THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT I SEE A LOT OF PROPOSED TREES, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT THEY'VE GET THAT THERE'S DESIGNATION.
THEY'RE GOING TO KEEP A LOT OF EXISTING DRINKS.
SO THE, THE LANDSCAPE PLANS THAT WERE PROVIDED WERE REVIEWED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND THEY DO REVIEW FOR TREE MITIGATION.
UM, SO THOSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET.
UH, SO IF, IF, AND I CAN CHECK WHICH TREES THEY ARE REMOVING, WHICH THEY'RE KEEPING, BUT IF THEY ARE REMOVING A TREE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REPLACE IT, THAT'S WHY YOU SAW NEW TREES BEING PROPOSED EITHER ONE-TO-ONE OR I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A MINIMUM.
SO, UM, UP TO A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE, UM, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CALIBER AND OLDER, IF THEY DON'T REPLACE THAT ONE TO ONE, THEY HAVE TO PAY THE BALANCE INTO A FUND.
I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT'S A REQUIREMENT YET.
I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN DISCUSSIONS, BUT IF THEY CAN'T REPLACE ONE-TO-ONE, THEN THEY TAKE THE MAXIMUM OF THAT CALIBER OF THE EXISTING TREE AND THEY SUB THEY PROVIDE.
SO IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S LIKE A 20 INCH TREE, THEN THEY'D PROVIDE MAYBE THREE TREES AFTER A CERTAIN CALIBER TO ADD THAT, TO THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE A QUESTION I'M GOING TO ASK THESE APPLICANTS TOMORROW FOR THEM TO DEFINE A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE LANDSCAPE CAUSE THESE ARE, YOU KNOW, I, I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THIS WHOLE ISSUE ABOUT TREE REMOVAL AND STORMS WE'VE HAD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE TOWN OF MADISON HAS LOST A LOT OF VERY LARGE TREES, THE CONS AND LIVE OAKS AND SOME OF THESE ON TCA AS WELL AS ON THE OAKS LOCATION ARE RATHER LARGE.
UH, AND I DON'T SEE THAT THEY CAN REPLACE THEM WITH NUTRIENTS AND USER.
SO I'M GOING TO SENSOR THAT ISSUE TOMORROW.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID A LOT OF, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTION OVER HERE AT OPERATION KINDNESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND, UH, UH, THE CITY OF CARROLLTON DID A GREAT JOB OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT EVERY TREE THAT WAS REMOVED FROM HERE WAS, UH, REPLACED AND IT DIDN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE SAME LOCATION, BUT IT HAD TO BE REPLACED AND WE HAD MORE WINS.
SHALL WE? WE DID A GOOD JOB OF DOING THAT.
AND THERE, THERE WAS A STIPULATION, A LITTLE WHAT THE SIZE OF, YOU KNOW, THE CALIPER OF THE TREE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO REPLACE IT WITH.
SO YEAH, IT'S A BIG DEAL AND OH, AND WE SHOULD MAKE IT A BIG DEAL LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW TOO.
AND SO I CAN, I CAN SHARE WHAT THE TCA PLAN SAY.
SO THEY'RE PRESERVING JUST UNDER 1200 CALIBER INCHES, BUT THEY'RE REMOVING, UH, APPROXIMATELY 370 CALIBER INCHES.
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BACK 10, EIGHT INCH CALIPER TREES.UH, BUT THEN, UH, THEY, THAT WOULD LEAVE JUST UNDER 290 INCHES REMAINING THAT ARE NOT MITIGATED ONSITE.
AND THEY HAVE A FOOTNOTE ON THE PLANS THAT SAYS, IF TREES CAN NOT BE MITIGATED ON THE, ON THE SITE, A PAYMENT MUST BE MADE TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON ARBOR FOUNDATION.
SO THE TREES CAN BE REPLANTED IN TOWN.
HOW OFTEN DOES THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, NOT HAVING EXPERIENCE IN THIS, UH, I, I WOULD NOT BE BEST SUITED TO ADDRESS THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD DIALOGUE TO HAVE WITH THE APPLICANT TOMORROW TO SEE IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY THERE TO REPLANT TREES ON SITES, THEY KEEP IN MIND, THEY DO HAVE A LARGER MASTER PLAN.
UH, SO THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE OF, OF A MUCH LARGER CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
SO THE SITE WILL GET MORE COMPRESSED, BUT THERE COULD CERTAINLY BE OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT REPLANTING ELSEWHERE ON THE CAMPUS.
AND I KNOW CAN, YOU'VE ADDED SOME LANGUAGE THAT IF THE APPLICANT MEETS ALL THE REGULATIONS AND WE HAVE TO APPROVE, UM, AND IF ALL THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS SAY, THIS LOOKS GOOD AT THIS, BUT IT'S GOOD.
AND SO NOW THE PARKS DEPARTMENTS COME IN AND SAID ON ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS FINE WITH US.
IF THEY EITHER REPLACE OR GIVE A PAYMENT KNOW, QUOTE, UNQUOTE, HAVE SATISFIED, THE REGULATIONS ARE, DO WE STILL HAVE THE LATITUDE TO GO WITH THAT? I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S, UH, THERE MAY BE A TIME ON THAT CAMPUS WHERE IT'S VERY HARD TO GET MORE TREES.
UH, I DOUBT THAT WE'RE AT THAT POINT.
SO WHAT I WOULDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS PLANT NEW TREES AND, AND A PLACE ON CAMPUS WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A NEW BUILDING EVENTUALLY AND THEY GET REMOVED AGAIN.
BUT IF THERE'S AREAS THAT THEY KNOW CAN TAKE ON NEW TREES THAT CAN GROW TO MATURITY AND REMAIN, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S IN MY MIND, THAT'S A PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT VERSUS PAYING INTO A FUND, BUT THAT'S A POLICY PREFERENCE.
REALLY? I DO THINK YOU HAVE LATITUDE TO ADVISE AND QUESTION THE APPLICANT ON THAT.
AND I DON'T MEAN TO PICK JUST ON TCA.
IT'S ALSO COMES UP WITH THE, UH, THE OLD CHAMBERLAIN FINISH RESTAURANT ALSO ABSOLUTELY PARKING ON THE BACK THAT THEY CAN PUT TREES.
THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO TAKE SOME OUT.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF ROOM BACK THERE, THE TREE BACK IN IT'S A HECK OF A LOT.
IT'S A HECK OF A LOT EASIER TO WRITE A CHECK THAN IT IS TO PLANT THE TREES.
WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THEY PLANT THE TREES.
I'M GOING TO BE, I'M GOING TO BE ON A PARKING KICK ALL DAY.
SO, UH, WITH THESE NEW BUILDINGS IN THE AREA AND NOT A PARKING, BUT A TRAFFIC, IT DOES MEAN THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY THERE.
NOW I TRY TO ADDRESS THAT ONE SINCE I USED TO WORK AT TC, THE REALITY IS THAT YOU WILL NOW HAVE MORE TRAFFIC ON SOLDIER, TAKE IT OFF OF ADDISON ROAD, PROBABLY GOING TO BE BETTER FOR FLOW IN THAT AREA THAN IT HAS IN THE PAST.
MY BIG CONCERN ABOUT THIS IS I HAVE TO TEAR DOWN BUILDINGS TO BUILD BUILDINGS.
SO WHAT IS THEIR INTERIM PLAN? YEAH.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT.
SO, AND TO ANSWER THAT, BECAUSE THIS IS A BRAND NEW BUILDING THAT THEY WILL REMAIN IN THEIR EXISTING FOR THE TIME BEING, AND THEN ONCE THIS IS BUILT, THEN THEY'LL OCCUPY.
SO THERE, IF THEY W THEY'RE NOT REPLACING THE LATEST THERE AT THE MOMENT, SO I'M SURE TO PULL THOSE OUT.
OH, AND I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE ARE PART OF THE, UH, SUP THAT CAME FORWARD WITH IT LAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO FOR, FOR THE EXACT SAME THING YOU'RE ASKING AS THEY WERE WORKING ON RENOVATING THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I THINK, UM, THE LOWER GRADES THEY PUT IN THE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS TO HOUSE BEFORE THAT TWO YEARS AGO.
THERE'S STILL SOME IN THE BACK THERE.
SO WE'RE IN THE SAME LOCATION THAT THIS HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO BE BUILT.
THERE'S A LOT OF, AND THAT WAS GOING TO BE JUST ONE OF MY CONCERNS TOO, BECAUSE OVER THE YEARS, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN AN ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU GET SOME OF THOSE HIGH SCHOOL DRIVERS PARKING, UM, ON THE STREET OR HOW THEY QUEUE DURING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DROP OFF OR PICK UP AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M HOPING, I'M HOPING THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE TO MITIGATE THAT AS WELL.
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IT CAN, I WAS GOING TO JUST ASK YOU, IS THAT, IS THERE ANY, YOU KNOW, I LIVE ON SOLDIER AND SO I SEE THE TRAFFIC ALL THE TIME THERE.AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THAT SINCE THEY HAVE PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THE STRIPPING IS DONE THAT CENTER, IS THERE SOME WAY THAT MAYBE THE CITY COULD THINK ABOUT MOVING THAT LINE OVER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT GOING AROUND WHEN THEY HAVE EVERYBODY PARKING THERE OR WAITING FOR THEIR KIDS OR WHATEVER, TRYING TO GET AROUND THE TRAFFIC YOU'RE RUNNING INTO TOO, THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC IS YOU HAVE TO GET OVER TO THE OTHER, OTHER SIDE OF THAT.
UH, THE, UH, YOLA, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN TRAFFIC'S BACKING UP ON THE HERE? YEAH, NO.
IN THE MORNING, IN THE EVENING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO PICK UP KIDS AND FOOTBALL GAMES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, CAUSE THEY PARKED ALL OVER.
WAS THAT STRIP THAT STREET, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE ROOM TO HAVE PARKING AND A LANE OF TRAFFIC GOING WEST.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ROADWAY IS REALLY INTENDED FOR ON-STREET PARKING.
I CAN, I CAN CERTAINLY VISIT WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM TO CONFIRM THAT.
AND, AND CERTAINLY THE, THE MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN WOULD, WOULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE SOME DIRECTION ON THAT TO YOU.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S MORE INTENDED AS A, AS A TRUE COLLECTOR AND NOT NECESSARILY ONE THAT IS INTENDED TO, TO HAVE PARKING BECAUSE IT DOES CREATE SOME CHALLENGES.
BUT THE THING IS, YOU'VE GOT TO SIGN UP, THEY'RE SITTING THERE SAYING YOU CAN ONLY PARK UP TO THIS POINT IN TIME, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT POINT IS.
IS THAT INTENDED MORE FOR FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, PICKING UP FOR, FOR SCHOOL? WELL, I THINK IT'S, WELL, IT'S ACTUALLY FOR SCHOOL AND THEN ALSO LIKE FOR FOOTBALL GAMES AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO THEY ALL PARKLAWN THERE IN THE PARK OVER IN THE GYMNASIUM AREA, UH, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THE SPORTS CENTER, I SHOULD SAY FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
SO IT'S JUST KIND OF A CONCERN FOR ME, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN AND OUT OF HERE.
I ALWAYS HAVE TO GO OUT THE OTHER WAY AND HAVE TO TAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, WEST GROVE IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET AROUND AND SAME WAY WITH, AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN THEY'RE PICKING UP KIDS, THAT LINE GOES ALL AROUND ADDISON ROAD, YOU KNOW, PLUGS UP PAST THE ROAD.
I, THAT THAT'S MY ROUTE IN FROM THE MORNING.
I'LL, I'M GONNA TAKE, UH, A SITE VISIT AND DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THE SOJOURN TO SEE THE PARKING CONDITION.
THAT IS SOMETHING I HAVE NOT SEEN YET.
SO LET ME LOOK INTO THAT, THAT PARKING CONDITION OUT THERE, AND I'LL, I'LL HAVE SOME MORE FEEDBACK READY FOR YOU ON THAT ISSUE.
YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS, JOHN.
IT APPEARS THE WAY THAT THEY'VE ADDED THAT PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE TCA CAMPUS.
THEY HAVE TRIED TO BE CUING WHERE IT WILL NOT BE ON THE STREETS.
SO I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE ADVANTAGEOUS, BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE PARKING ON THE STREET.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE TOWN CAN BE SOMETHING AND PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE ADDRESSED.
SO I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD, AND ONE THING I WOULD ADD WITH THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL ADDITION, IT'S NOT JUST THE BUILDING THEY ARE DOING.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO SOME OF THE DRIVE AISLES TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THIS MIDDLE SCHOOL BUILDING.
SO THERE'LL BE A LITTLE MORE QUEUING ONSITE AS WELL.
UM, CERTAINLY YOU MAY STILL HAVE THE, THE CONDITION THAT YOU SEE AT, AT PEAK TIMES IN THAT AREA.
AND THAT'S KIND OF JUST ONE OF THE FACTS OF LIFE FOR, FOR, UH, UH, INSTITUTIONAL FACILITIES LIKE THIS, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY THINGS WE CAN DO TO MITIGATE THAT AND ADDRESS THAT AND, UH, PARKING AS A, AS A, AS A VERY GREAT POINT TO POINT OUT.
SO LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION FOR ME.
UM, SO WHEN IS THIS SCHEDULED TO BEGIN AND HOW LONG WILL THE CONSTRUCTION BE GOING ON? OLGA HAS THE APPLICANT SHARED THAT I DID NOT HAVE A TIMELINE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ASK THEM AND, AND HAVE AN ANSWER READY.
I WOULD BET THAT WHATEVER THE LAST DAY OF SCHOOL IS IS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO START THE DAY WHEN YOU GET AS MUCH DONE IN THE SUMMER AS THAT CAN FOR DON'T.
YEAH, MY TOO, BUT I HOPE THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THEY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE DONE IN THREE MONTHS, BUT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, IT, WON'T, IT'S GOING TO BLEED OVER INTO THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR, WHICH WILL MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING.
WELL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP WITH THE APPLICANT ON THAT, SIR.
UM, WE WANT TO LOOK AT OUR NEXT CASE THEN
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IS THE ONE, IS THAT, IS THAT ANY QUESTIONS? UH, JUST A GENERIC ONE CAN.UM, SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION IS I THINK CHARLES MAY IS KNOWN, BUT UNDERSTAND YOURS.
UH, AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO THE SIGNAGE, THE ALCOHOL IN THE NAME.
UM, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION A LOT AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME RIGHT, THAT THAT'S A KIND OF AN UNENFORCEABLE REQUIREMENT THAT WE JUST HOPE THAT THE RE THE APPLICANTS KIND OF ABIDE BY IT.
BUT THIS IS ONE WHERE, AGAIN, THE LANGUAGE HAS BEEN ADDED IN THE LETTER THAT IF THEY MEET ALL REGULATIONS, THEN WE NEED TO APPROVE, WELL, IF THEY PUT ALCOHOL IN THEIR NAME THAT THEY STILL HAVE MET ALL UP AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS FINE, THEY STILL HAVE MET THE REGULATIONS.
SO ARE WE STILL COMPELLED? ARE WE STILL GOING TO APPROVE THESE WITH THAT CONDITION OR DO WE JUST CONDITION OUT WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON THAT? SO THE, THE OAT PROCESS, SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY REQUESTING A REZONING AND AN, AN SEP.
SO THOSE ARE BOTH DISCRETIONARY REVIEW PROCESSES.
SO THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE ADDISON GROVE AND, AND TCA PROJECT.
UH, SO THEY DO NEED A REZONING.
UH, THEY NEED TO AMEND THE PD, UH, TO ADD BREWPUB AS A, UH, PERMITTED USE.
UH, THEY DO PLAN THE, UH, BREW BEER ONSITE, A SMALL OPERATION, AND THEN WITH THAT, THEY NEED AN SEP FOR THAT BREW PUB USE AS WELL, THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE BOTH ON AND OFF PREMISES CONSUMPTION.
AND THEN THAT SEP ALSO NEEDS TO COVER ON PREMISES CONSUMPTION FOR THE RESTAURANT USE.
UM, AS TO YOUR QUESTION, TOM, I HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO DIVE DEEP INTO THAT ISSUE.
SO I'M GOING TO MAINTAIN HOW STAFF HAS ADDRESSED THAT, UH, IN THE PAST, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, IT'S A CONCERN, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION, UH, I BELIEVE, UH, MS. WHEELER ACTUALLY POINTED OUT A SIMILAR ISSUE IN, IN THE P AND Z ANNUAL REPORT.
SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD TOPIC TO ADD TO THE COMMISSION'S WORK PLAN IN THE FUTURE AND TAKE A DEEPER POLICY DIVE INTO THAT ISSUE.
BUT AT THIS TIME I'M GOING TO MAINTAIN, UH, STAFF'S PAST.
SO CAN I MAKE A COMMENT? YOU KNOW, PROHIBITION WAS A FAILED EXPERIMENT IN AMERICA AND WE'RE LIVING IN 20, YOU KNOW, 20, 21.
I THINK THE, UH, THE, UH, ARCHAIC VIEW ABOUT ALCOHOL IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER THE TOP.
YOU KNOW, I, I, I GET WHAT PART OF THE STATE WE LIVE IN.
I LIVE, I, I GET WHAT WAS HISTORICALLY PREVALENT HERE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, I THINK IT'S A REAL STRETCH.
IS THERE REQUESTS TO ACTUALLY GO BY THE NAME OF HAND CRAFTED BARBECUE EMBROIDERY? TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONFIRM THAT I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK? UM, I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE-CHECK WITH THE APPLICANT? UM, I, THEY DO HAVE IT AND THEY DO HAVE AN EXISTING LOCATION.
UM, UH, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF HERE, UH, ALONG CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, UM, AT, UH, GREENVILLE AND SOUTHWESTERN, WE CAN CONFIRM, UH, IF THAT SIGNAGE HAS, UH, ANYTHING, UH, THAT WOULD RUN A FALL OF THAT ISSUE AS WELL, OR THEIR SIGNAGE SAYS, OH, WITH THE TREE HANDCRAFT BBQ UNDERNEATH IT.
AND THEN THE WEST SIDE, DOESN'T, IT REALLY APPEARS TO ONLY SAY, OH, TO BBQ.
I THINK THAT'S PART OF IT, BUT THAT, AND SO WHEN AN FOR NAME DOES NOT INCLUDE ALCOHOL AND TO HAVE ALCOHOL RELATED NAME AND SIGNAGE, I GUESS AGAIN, IT GETS BACK TO, SHOULD WE EVEN BE RAISING THIS ISSUE UNLESS WE THINK IT IS AN ISSUE, UM, CERTAINLY ON THE SEABISCUIT BEDFORD, THE BARB IS DOING WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY.
I DON'T THINK, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S AN UNENFORCEABLE STATEMENT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HERE, AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD RAISE IT AS AN ISSUE WHEN THERE'S NOT ONE.
I GUESS WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT
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I JUST, I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM HIGHLIGHTING SOMETHING DESIGNED FOR US.THEY DO SELL ALCOHOL BIT OTHER LOCATIONS.
IT ONLY SAYS LOCAL BEER AND COMMUNITY BAR.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BISCUIT BAR, A BREWERY AND THE BANG.
I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT IN THE WAY THAT THEY ARE VIEWED.
NO, NO, I AGREE WITH THAT, EXCEPT THAT THE APPLICATION HAS THE SAME CONDITION APPROVAL CAN DO THAT.
THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING ABOUT ALCOHOL, SO IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
AND I'M SURE YOU ALL SEE THIS TOO, IS, IS IT'S BECOME MORE OR LESS A STANDARD CONDITION FOR, FOR RESTAURANT, UH, WHOLESALES SCPS.
WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE THAT ISSUE MORE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WE CAN WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THESE CASES, BUT CERTAINLY WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS IT MORE IF WE NEED TO TOMORROW.
WELL, RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN ORDINANCE.
AND SO WE HAVE TO ADHERE TO THAT.
AND SO THERE'S A DECISION TO CHANGE THAT.
AND, AND THE OTHER THING, AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD SHARE, KEEP IN MIND, AND IT IT'S BEEN ON HIATUS FOR A LONG TIME.
SO IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY EASY TO FORGET.
WE'RE ALSO LOOK UPDATING THE, THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODE, UM, THAT IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TACKLE, UM, ISSUES LIKE THIS AND OTHER CHALLENGING, UH, LAND DEVELOPMENT, POLICY ISSUES.
SO CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT ON THE WORK PLAN THAT TACKLE WITH, WITH THAT PROCESS.
DOES YOUR GROUP DO SIGN APPROVAL OR DOES IT FALL UNDER? YES.
MA'AM AND TOM, I AGREE WITH ME ABOUT THE TREES ON THAT WEST SIDE OF THE OLD FISH MARKET.
THEY USED TO BE A TON OF TREES THERE, AND THEY'VE ALL EITHER DIED DOWN OR TAKEN DOWN OR WHATEVER.
SO YEAH, THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR THEM TO GO AROUND AND MAKE THAT LOOK NICE AGAIN.
BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME, THREE OR FOUR EXISTING LIVE OAKS IN THAT SAME AREA THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO PUT THEIR PATIO IN.
SO IT LOOKS AS IF THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE TWO AND THOSE BIG ONES, UM, AND 3M, BUT THAT ONE AND, YOU KNOW, TCA THE THREE STREAMS. YOU OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON OAK BISCUIT, BAR, DUTCH COFFEE QUESTIONS? UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT THAT EILEEN IS, YOU KNOW, I'M SHORT A BIT ON THIS KICK ALL DAY, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IS WHAT USED TO BE A NOT VERY HIGH TRAFFIC AREA HAS TURNED INTO A PRETTY MUCH OF A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA.
FOR WHATEVER REASON THAT SHOPPING CENTER IS A HECK OF A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT IT USED TO BE.
AND IT'S ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO GET BETTER AND HAVING A DRIVE IN RIGHT OFF OF MARSH LAYING RIGHT THERE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE, WHICHEVER WAY YOU'RE GOING ON MARSH, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE COMING OUT OF THAT PARKING LOT OR GOING INTO THAT PARKING LOT INTO WHERE THE TOM THUMB STORE IS, UH, IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE TO GET OUT ON MARSH NOW.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT MY QUESTION IS, BUT IS, IS, IS THAT GOING TO BE ANOTHER, UH, FOCAL POINT FOR HOW TRAFFIC IS FLOWING IN AND AROUND THAT AREA? BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN EXTREMELY CONGESTED YOU'RE RECENTLY MY CONCERN IS A LITTLE MORE OF TRAFFIC FLOW AND I DON'T WANT ANOTHER SITUATION LIKE WE HAVE AT STARBUCKS AND MIDWAY YES.
NORTHBOUND ON MARSH, OR I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A TURN LANE SOUTHBOUND NORTHBOUND ON MARSH TO GO RIGHT INTO WHAT APPEARS TO BE A DRIVEWAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD OR A ROAD TO THE NORTH SIDE.
YOU KNOW, I QUESTIONED IF YOU CAN'T REARRANGE THAT, SO THAT TRAFFIC BACKUP ENDS UP IN THE CENTER AND NOT OUT ON MARSHALL LANE.
THERE WAS A HUGE AREA OF LAND DOWN THERE AND CERTAINLY I CAN FIGURE OUT A BETTER WAY TO GET THE TRAFFIC AROUND AND SHOWN RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, MAYBE THE RUG GOES ON THE KNIFE, THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT PATCH OF LAND AND FORCES IT TO COME BACK TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING
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AND TURN IN THERE.SOMETHING THAT I PERSONALLY HAVE.
WHAT IS WHAT I FORESEE HAPPENING ON MARSHALING? YEAH.
IS YOUR, IS YOUR CONCERN THE, THE ACCESS TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING? YEAH.
THAT IT'S GOING TO BACK UP ON TOMORROW AS THEY ALL GO TO TURN RIGHT IN THERE AND IT IS LONGER LINE, I DON'T KNOW, JUST PLACES AS POPULAR STARBUCKS TO BE QUITE HONEST.
MAYBE WE WEREN'T TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO BECOME THAT.
I MEAN, IF YOU, I KNOW YOU'RE PRETTY NEW TO THE TOWN, BUT TRY THE STARBUCKS THAT MARK AT MIDWAY AND BELTLINE ANYTIME OF THE DAY, AND IT'S A PROBLEM, THEY HAD TO READJUST THEIR EXIT OUT OF THERE AND NO ENTRANCE IN A CERTAIN WAY.
AND IT IS STILL A BIG PROBLEM.
I AM FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE AND I CERTAINLY SEE THE, SOME OF THE CUING CHALLENGES THERE.
I'M NOT SURE TO ME, IF YOU DO THAT, THAT ENTRANCE, THAT THEY'RE DRAWN TO THE OTHER GO FURTHER NORTH ON THE BLANK DIRT THAT CREATES A LOT MORE FLOW OF BACKUP TRAFFIC THROUGH THE CENTER THAN IT DOES, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT SHOULD DEFINITELY THE FLOODS SHOULD BE INTO THE PARKING LOT.
IS THAT GOING TO BE A BOTH, IF IT WAS, IT WAS JUST AN EXIT MIGHT BE BETTER FROM HIGH SCHOOL.
SO EVEN IF IT'S AN EXIT LANE, THERE'S SO MUCH TRAFFIC MARS INSTEAD OF BACK UP THROUGH THAT LINE.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER WAY TO APPROACH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S TO JOHN'S POINT.
I THINK YOU NEED SECOND EXIT, MORE EXITS OUT OF THERE BECAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GOING TO FORCE ALL THE EXIT IN BETWEEN THE CHASE BANK AND THE COFFEE SHOP AND THAT WE ALL KNOW THAT'S ALREADY NOT GREAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, THERE'S LOTS TO TALK ABOUT TOMORROW, OBVIOUSLY.
SO I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE NEED TO ASSESS IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ELECTION TOMORROW FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND ALL THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL HAS PUT THEIR NAME IN THE HAT FOR THOSE POSITIONS.
YOU SHARE WITH US HERE SO FAR FOR CHAIR, WE HAVE, UH, TOM TOWERS AND EILEEN RESNICK FOR VICE CHAIR.
I DO NOT KNOW IS ANYONE INTERESTED THAT WANTS TO VOICE THEIR INTEREST AT THE MOMENT, BUT LIKE YOU DIDN'T GO FOR THE VICE CHAIR.
NO, I WAS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WAS IT.
YES, TOM OR EILEEN ARE EITHER OF YOU INTERESTED IN CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR IF YOU DON'T GET CHAIR OR IS IT CHAIR NOTHING.
WELL, I'VE SERVED AS VICE CHAIR THIS YEAR.
UM, I GUESS I COULD, I WOULD BE DENISE.
WITHOUT I KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A PRESS PRESTON.
SO FOR THE SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN WITH IT.
SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT FOR THE FOUR YEARS, I'VE BEEN WITH IT, IT WAS JUST USUALLY WHO RAN FOR WHAT? AND THAT WAS IT.
IT'S KIND OF AN ALL OR NOTHING.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT RUNNING FOR CHAIR? WELL, I THINK WHEN OLGA FIRST SENT OUT THE EMAIL, SHE, I GUESS IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING NOT ELAINE'S, SHE SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE ANSWERED IN THE POSITION AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO SERVE, YOU KNOW? AND MINE'S PRETTY SIMPLE.
IT'S ACTUALLY FAIRLY SELF-CENTERED AND THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST GET A LOT OF PERSONAL SATISFACTION ON GIVING BACK TO THE ADDISON COMMUNITY.
UH, AND HOW I GOT HERE IS, IS KIND OF THE STORY OF WHY I WANT TO SERVE AS CHAIR.
YOU KNOW, WE MOVED TO EDISON AND MY WIFE AND I AFTER IS EMPTY.
AND AFTER LIVING HERE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, UM, I WANTED TO GET A LITTLE MORE INVOLVED IN THE TOWN.
SO I ENROLLED IN THE FALL 2008, SPRING 2009 SESSION OF EDISON CITIZENS ACADEMY.
UM, AND WE GOT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, PEAKING ABOUT ALL THINGS ADDISON AND JUST REINFORCE OUR, OUR DECISION TO MOVE ABSENT FIRST PLACE.
UM, INTERESTINGLY, UH, IN THAT CLASS AS BRUCE ARSON, WHO WENT ON TO SERVE ON COUNCIL, RALPH DOHERTY, WHO WENT ON TO SERVE AS CHAIR OF THE P AND G MARGIE GUNTHER, WHO WAS ON COUNCIL EVENTUALLY, AND ALSO BIG VOLUNTEER IN ADDISON, UM, AND COINCIDENTALLY
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NOODLE WAS, WAS IN THAT CLASS, EILEEN.UM, IT WAS THEIR COLLECTIVE ENTHUSIASM.
THOSE, THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CLASS THAT REALLY MADE ME WANT TO GIVE BACK TO EDISON, UH, ANOTHER PERSON ATTENDING THAT ACADEMY WAS, UH, FRAN PAL HERE IN OAKS, NORTH, UH, WHERE I LIVE AND SHE CONVINCED ME TO JOIN OAKNORTH HOMER ASSOCIATES, OR I'VE SERVED SINCE 2009 STILL SERVE.
UM, I'VE BEEN PRESIDENT FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS AND OUR HOA HAS A LONG HISTORY OF SERVING TOWN WORKING WITH THE TOWN OF VARIOUS PROJECTS.
AND THROUGH THAT, I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW PAST AND CURRENT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, STAFF, UM, THE GENERAL LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME, YOU, I WAS WORKING WITH CHARLES BACK IN 2013 AS A MATTER OF FACT FOR HOA.
UM, AND OF COURSE I HAVEN'T USED THIS FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WORKED WITH HIM FOR MANY YEARS.
AND THEN MARLIN IS ONE OF MY, ONE OF OUR OR WHITE ROCK TRAIL LOVERS.
AND SO I WORK WITH MAREN A LOT TOO, BUT, UH, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE HOA, JUST VARIOUS PROJECTS WE'VE HAD, I'VE WORKED WITH THE, UH, PAUL CHIEF, PAUL SPENCER, CHIEF DAVID JOHNS WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, AS WELL AS JANET TIDWELL PARK AND HER PREDECESSOR SLATE STRICKLAND.
SO THE HOA HAS ACTUALLY BEEN A REAL WAY FOR ME TO GIVE BACK TO DATA.
SO IN ADDITION, OBVIOUSLY TO THE P AND Z, WHICH I'VE BEEN ON SINCE JANUARY, 2018, UH, I WAS ALSO ON THE MASTER OF TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THAT IN A LOT OF OUR APPLICATIONS.
UH, I'VE BEEN, UH, UH, UH, PARTICIPATE IN AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE ADDISON FOUNDATION.
I'M A BIG FAN OF THE ABS AND ARBOR FOUNDATION.
AND I WAS ELECTED IN THIS STATE, IN THE METRO PRESS LEADERSHIP IN, UH, 2018 THROUGH 19 CLASS.
UM, AND JUST RECENTLY, UH, I ENDED UP, UH, YEARS' TENURE ON THE TRAILS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS GOING TO HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE COMING YEARS, AS FAR AS WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY.
AND SO, AND ALSO IN ADDITION TO THOSE, I'M ALSO CO-CHAIR OF A MAJOR DALLAS CHARITABLE FOUNDATION, AS WELL AS OUR CHURCH'S SCHOLARSHIP COMMITTEE FRONT AND SERVE STUDENTS IN THIS AREA.
SO I JUST, I JUST LOVE GIVING BACK AND HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE CHAIR AND BE ABLE TO GIVE BACK IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAT IT HADN'T BEFORE.
AND SO I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME CONSIDERATION NOW HOW I WOULD SERVE, YOU KNOW, I PLAY, I'M GONNA WORK WITH CANNES AND TOWN STAFF TO MAKE THE DISEASE ARE EFFICIENT AND, AND IS CAM.
UM, BUT, UH, I THINK A GOOD LEADER LEADS BY EXAMPLE.
AND I THINK ALL OF YOU KNOW, THAT I LOVE ASKING QUESTIONS, BUT I HOPE WHAT I WANT TO BE REMEMBERED FOR.
AND THE EXAMPLE I'LL SET IS THAT WE BALANCE THE NEEDS OF OUR BUSINESS OWNERS WHO PAY OFF A LOT OF OUR TAXES, 87% WITH ALSO THE NEEDS OF OUR 50,000 PLUS RESIDENTS.
AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE CAN DO IS STRIKE THAT BALANCE AND MAKE SURE THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WE CAN GIVE TO COUNCIL ARE, UM, ARE WELL THOUGHT OUT VETTED, UH, AND PRACTICAL.
AND I'M JOY THE KIND OF SPECIALISTS TODAY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT GETS US TO THOSE ANSWERS.
AND I WOULD JUST CONTINUE TO URGE THIS PROCESS.
SO YEAH, FOR THE RECORD, EILEEN IS A CANDIDATE.
I HAVE NOTHING, BUT THE UTMOST RESPECT FOR OUR LANE WORKED WITH HER FOR THREE YEARS, GOING ON FOUR ON, ON HERE ON P AND Z.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I, IF I'M NOT ELECTED, WE'RE STILL IN VERY GOOD HANDS, BUT I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WELL, TOM, THAT WAS VERY GOOD.
AND GOSH, IT MAKES ME SAY I'M A NATIVE RESIDENT FOR SOME OF YOU TO THE TOWN OF ADDISON WHERE YOU'VE BEEN HERE 27 YEARS.
WE HAVE A REBUILT OUR FIRST HOUSE, ACTUALLY 27 YEARS AGO.
THIS MONTH WE BROKE GROUND ON OUR NEW HOUSE WHILE WE WERE ON OUR HONEY MATE JUST HAD AN ANNIVERSARY LAST WEEK.
AND INSTEAD OF BUILT OUR FIRST HOUSE HERE, UM, MAYBE DIVERT TO ADDISON CIRCLES.
SO I'M HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE TERM HOUSE LIVING, WHICH HAS SOME ISSUES THAT COME WITH IT.
AND SO I THINK BRING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN JUST BEING A SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNER.
AND THEN, UM, THIS HOUSE, WHICH WAS ALWAYS THE HOUSE THAT I WANT TO LIVE IN.
AND, UM, I BOUGHT IT FOR ME FOR A BIRTHDAY PRESENT AND SHE WAS KIND OF A FUN SURPRISE.
SO WE FINALLY HAVE OUR LAST HOUSE.
THEN I TOLD NEIL THAT HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO CARRY ME OUT OF HERE IN A BOX, BECAUSE THIS IS A BIT I'M DONE.
WE'RE ON OUR THIRD ONE MADISON, BUT THIS IS IT.
UM, HAVE DONE, NOT NEARLY AS MANY THINGS THAT AS TOM HAS, THEY HAVE SERVED
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ANY OF THE ZONING AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE BACK.AS HE MENTIONED, MY HUSBAND WAS ON THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO I LITERALLY HAVE NOT GONE EVERY DOOR WITH THE EXCEPTION OF APARTMENTS BECAUSE I MADE NEIL DO MOST OF THOSE.
I DID A LOT OF BEST IN THE TOWN OF MADISON, UM, FOR PROBABLY, WELL, I GUESS THREE TIMES.
SO THAT'S A LOT OF DOORS TO KNOCK ON SOME MANY OF YOU, I, IN THAT WAY.
UM, AND MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORS IN THAT WAY.
SO I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE DEALT WITH.
WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED PROMOTING CANDIDATES FOR COUNCIL THAT WE THINK WILL SERVE THE TOWN WELL AND OF WORK ON CAMPAIGNS TO HELP THEM ELECTED.
AND SO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED MORE ON SIDE OF, BUT CERTAINLY I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE BACK AS TOM MENTIONED, AND SO FLAGS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, ENJOYED SERVING AS VICE CHAIR.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT I THINK THIS ROLE IS SOMEWHAT IMPORTANT AND HAS BEEN ALLUDED TO, I THINK IT'S OFTEN SET UP TO SERVE ON COUNCIL.
AND SO IT GIVES LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
THAT'S NOT SAYING I WANT TO RUN FOR COUNCIL.
ANY OF YOU GET THAT IDEA, NEVER SAID THOSE WORDS, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MAY WANT TO DO THAT.
SO, UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE HAVING SERVED AS CHAIR THIS YEAR, HOPEFULLY BE ELECTED TO CHAIR NEXT YEAR AND I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ONE YEAR AND THEN I WOULD WANT YOU TO LET SOMEBODY ELSE SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, TO BUILD THE LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES IN THE TOWN, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF THOSE DO COME FROM PLANNING AND SEMI.
SO, UM, AGAIN, IF YOU'D LIKE TO TOM, HE'LL BE FANTASTIC AND I'LL SUPPORT HIM IN EVERY WAY.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE YOUR CHAIR AND JOHN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE VICE CHAIR POSITION? SURE.
UH, AGAIN, IT'S JUST LIKE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN IN THIS TOWN.
I'VE BEEN IN THIS TOWN SINCE 1992 ACTUALLY BOUGHT OUR HOUSE THAT, UH, WHICH IS GOING TO BE OUR FOREVER HOME CAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, FIXING IT UP AND, UH, BEING UP AT THE NORTH END OF TOWN WHERE I CAN SEE OTHER THINGS FROM STANDPOINT, THE AIRPORT, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I KIND OF FIGURED OUT THAT, UH, IT'S A GOOD TIME TO SIT THERE AND TRY TO GET BACK TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU WANT TO BE FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
SO I STARTED, OH, I THINK ABOUT GOOD 13, 14 YEARS AGO WITH THE FIRST THING THAT I DID, I ACTUALLY WENT TO THE VERY FIRST, UH, CITIZENS ACADEMY WENT THROUGH THAT AND IT ACTUALLY CAPTAIN KATHERINE WHEELER WAS IN THAT SAME CLASS WITH ME.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE BECAME FRIENDS DURING THAT TIME, WORKED THROUGH THAT GREAT EXPERIENCE, LEARNING EVERYTHING, WHAT THE CITY DOES, HOW IT WORKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND GOT A LITTLE MORE INTERESTED IN.
AND BY THAT TIME I HAD ACTUALLY GOT A VERY GOOD FRIEND AND WAS ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HE ASKED ME WHAT I HELPED SET UP THE CITIZENS ON PATROL AT THAT TIME, NOT THE ONE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT THE FIRST ONE, AND IT WAS REALLY SUPPOSED BE A HUNDRED PERCENT NONPROFIT FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
I ACTUALLY ORGANIZED IT AS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
WE ACTUALLY DID FUNDRAISERS FROM THE STANDPOINT TO RAISE MONEY, TO SUPPORT THE POLICE.
UH, WE DID THE NIGHT OUTS, UH, DURING THE, UH, UH, THE FALL.
SO THEY'RE BRINGING A LOT OF PEOPLE.
WE ACTUALLY HAD BIG PARTIES, UH, DOWN BY THE ATHLETICS CENTER WHERE WE HAD A HUNDRED, AT LEAST A HUNDRED PEOPLE SHOW UP AT FACE PAINTINGS AND ALL, I THINK HIS STUFF HAD A LOT OF FUN THERE DOING THAT.
THOSE FIRST TWO YEARS, WE ACTUALLY HAD THE SISTERS ON PATROL, UH, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WHICH DID, UH, I FELT DID A REAL GOOD, UH, GROUP.
WE ACTUALLY HAD ABOUT 15 PEOPLE AT THAT TIME WITH THE GROUP.
WE HAD TRAINING SESSIONS ORGANIZED THOSE FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE GETTING BACK TO THE, TO THE CITY FROM THAT STANDPOINT, GETTING THE SUPPORT TO THE PROPERTY FROM THERE, I THEN WENT TO, UH, WAS INVITED TO GO TO THE METRO CREST, ATTENDED METRO CREST ON THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY OF THEIR TEACHINGS AND WAS ASKED TO HELP WITH THE 21ST IN PLANNING AND DOING SOME OF THE, THE PRESENTATIONS AND HELPING WITH THE PLANNING OF THE ACTUAL CLASS FOR THE 21ST GROUP FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
SO I DID THAT DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, AGAIN, FINDING OUT MORE ABOUT THE CITY, HOW IT WORKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, UH, HAVING A LOT OF FUN, DOING THAT AND GIVING BACK TO THE CITY AGAIN, DYLAN WAS ASKED TO BE ON THE P AND Z, WHICH WAS GREAT.
I WAS VERY, VERY TAKEN BACK WHEN I DID GET THE INVITATION.
SO I FEEL THAT I'VE BEEN DOING SOMETHING FOR THE CITY FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN ON THE A P AND Z EVER SINCE.
SO HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, THE LAST
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TWO YEARS AND LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I LIKE JUST GET A LITTLE MORE EXPERIENCE IN GETTING WITHIN THE CHAIR PART.SO UNDERSTANDING MORE ABOUT HOW THAT WORKS AND LEADING TOWARDS WHATEVER IT WAS I MIGHT HAVE, HAVE TO DO WITH HELPING THE CITY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS US TODAY? NO.
KEN, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO ADDRESS? NO, NOT UNLESS THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THE MINUTES.
SO THE PNZ ANNUAL REPORT, ACTUALLY, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
UM, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A COPY OF THE INTERIM REPORT.
AND DOES IT REQUIRE APPROVAL BEFORE IT'S PRESENTED TO COUNCIL? IT, IT, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE PACKET.
WERE YOU ABLE TO DOWNLOAD THE PACKET FROM THE WEBSITE AT THE VERY, VERY END AT THE END? CAUSE UM, WE CAN EMAIL THAT TO EILEEN.
FOR SOME REASON I DIDN'T GET THAT.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO DID NOT GET IT OR WOULD LIKE IT AGAIN? I GOT IT.
ALL OUR BASES COVERED TO GO BACK TO YOUR QUESTION.
UM, UH, WAS YOUR QUESTION, IF THERE'S ANY FEEDBACK ON IT, UH, LOOK, LOOK FINE.
AND OUR INTENT WOULD BE FOR THE WHOMEVER IS ELECTED CHAIR TO, TO PRESENT IT TO THE COUNCIL AT THE MEETING ON THE 13TH.
UM, IF WHOMEVER THAT IS, IS NOT AVAILABLE, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT A DIFFERENT MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANKS EVERYBODY.
WHAT WERE WE GOING TO DISCUSS IF WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IN ZOOM MEETINGS OR IF WE'RE GOING TO GO TO EARLY, WE NEED TO DO THAT AT AN ACTUAL MEETING TOMORROW.
WE CAN INTRODUCE THAT DISCUSSION IF YOU'D LIKE FOR IN PERSON, BUT THAT'S ME.
WELL, WE STARTED, WE CONTINUED ZOOM MEETINGS AFTER COUNCIL MOVED, UH, TO THE TREE HOUSE, UH, OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, UM, BY SOME OF THE MEMBERS MYSELF INCLUDED.
UM, AND THE QUESTION NOW IS THEY HAD AN ISSUE HAD BEEN RESOLVED, I BELIEVE AT LEAST ONE, IF NOT TWO SHOTS.
UM, AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING FOR COUNCIL SOCIAL DISTANCING.
UM, SO, AND THEY DO IT BOTH WAYS.
I MEAN, VIRTUALLY AND IN PERSON.
SO, UM, I WOULD NOT BE AGAINST GOING IN PERSON, BUT WE MAY WANT TO HOLD OFF FOR ANOTHER MONTH OR SO I'M GOING TO BE UNDER THAT SAME SET I'M DONE COME BEHIND ME AND THAT TIME.
UM, I'M SO LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT I DO.
UM, BUT AGAIN, AND THANKS TO ALL OF YOU.
ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE DID NOT DO THAT IS THAT I SEEN MY MOTHER ON A WEEKLY BASIS SINCE SHE'S 99 AND MEDICALLY FRAGILE.
AND SO BEEN SO CAREFUL ABOUT WHO I SEE AND WHAT I DO, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO PUT HER AT RISK.
SO, AND JUST SO Y'ALL ARE AWARE THE, THE RECENT EXECUTIVE ORDER FROM THE GOVERNOR THAT HAS NOT IMPACTED OUR ABILITY TO MEET VIRTUALLY, UM, THAT THAT PARTICULAR ORDER IS REVISITED MONTHLY.
UM, SO FOR THIS MONTH, WE'RE CERTAINLY GOOD.
AND THERE HASN'T, UM, TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY INDICATIONS THAT HE WOULD REPEAL THAT PARTICULAR ORDER.
UM, SO, UH, VIRTUAL MEETINGS COULD BE A, UH, CONTINUED, UM, EXPERIENCE IF THAT'S DESIRED.
UM, AND ONE THING I RECALL FROM REVIEWING ONE OF YOUR PREVIOUS MEETINGS WHERE THIS ISSUE WAS DISCUSSED, THERE WAS, THERE WAS TALK OF MAYBE DOING A MIX WHERE SOME PEOPLE MET, UH ON-SITE AND SOME PEOPLE, UH, MET VIRTUALLY, UH, PAD.
I DON'T MEAN TO PUT YOU ON A SPOT ON THE SPOT, BUT I THINK THERE IS YOU HAD SOME RESEARCH, UH, ON THAT, UM, ON THE POTENTIAL TO DO THAT, OR MAYBE I'M NOT REMEMBERING IT CORRECTLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, WHAT THE RULES ARE.
I CAN FIGURE IT THAT OUT BY TOMORROW EVENING.
YEAH, THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
ONE THING I WOULD SUGGEST ON AN ONGOING PERMANENT BASIS AND DAN, AND CAN, YOU CAN HAVE RESOURCES.
UM, IT'S A BIT, I'M A BIG FAN OF THE PLANNING MEETING.
I THINK, UM, IT AIRS OUT SOME OF OUR CONCERNS AND IT GETS EVERYBODY ON THE SAME PAGE.
AND I WOULD, I CAN DO THAT, BUT IT'S CALL FOR SOME PEOPLE TO BREAK FREE IN THE MORNING ON MONDAY MORNING.
AND THEN ALSO TUESDAY EVENING, IF WE COULD DO VIRTUAL FOR THE PLANNING MEETING AND THEN THE IN-PERSON
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WHEN WE GO BACK FOR THE MAIN FORMAL MEETING, I THINK THAT'S WORTH CONSIDERING.WE'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT AS LONG AS THE GOVERNOR'S ORDER IS EXTENDED ALLOWING VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
BUT ONCE THAT ENDS, OBVIOUSLY IN-PERSON MEETINGS WOULD BE THE ORDER OF BUSINESS ORDER OF THE DAY.
ONE THING I'D ALSO SHARE THE LEGISLATURE IS I ACTUALLY THERE'S SEVERAL BILLS THAT WOULD MAKE THE VIRTUAL MEETING ENVIRONMENT, A PERMANENT OPTION FOR CITIES.
UH, NOTHING HAS BEEN PASSED YET, BUT, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL BILLS, UH, BEING CONSIDERED IN THE CURRENT LEGISLATIVE SESSION BY THE STATE.
SO IT COULD BE A PERMANENT OPTION MOVING FORWARD.
I W I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, GETTING BACK TOGETHER, BUT JUST OUT OF RESPECT FOR EVERYONE, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOME SORT OF VIRTUAL OPTION.
ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ON THAT ISSUE? SIX O'CLOCK.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH THE ZOOM MEETING.